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Except you're the one doing that, not me. You've made up a scenario in your head and then gotten mad about it as if it actually happened.

It was a rhetorical question. The purpose was for people to realize that this isn't actually a famous or important person like Caveira implied. I didn't think it would be that hard to get, but my apologies.

Correct, you guys seem to be under the weird assumption that I agree with this guy. I don't. He's crazy and stupid and deserves whatever minor law enforcement visit/punishment he'll receive for that tweet. He's also just a random guy and Caveira trying paint him as a normal, liberal city council candidate was an obvious cheap shot meant to push your guys' outrage buttons.

Sure, but you realize there are millions of people saying insane things every day on social media. Caveira was clearly trying to connect this guy to the Democratic Party. He's just a random a-hole on twitter. The irony here is that the only reason a significant amount of people might see this guy's tweet is because they made it go viral trying to dunk on liberals.

He has less than 500 followers. You guys are a joke. Where were you when a Laura Loomer, someone who has personally met with Trump, implied she wanted to kill every Latino in Ameriica. You didn't seem all that concerned then.

Let me rephrase: should I care about a random city council *candidate* from a random city who is not going to get elected? Googled him. He's a college student who ran in 2021 and got 1% of the vote. This is just a random guy.

Are we supposed to care about a candidate for city council? Do you know how many lunatics run for city council?

Are we supposed to know who that is?

The good news is Jimmy is already used to getting shoved in lockers.

The donors on the list are more important than politicians here. That's the number one reason so many people in both parties have an interest in keeping the list secret. If their donors are publicly on the list, they can't keep taking money. Electioneering is a billion dollar industry in this country. Summer houses in the Hamptons rely on that money flowing. The political class can't afford to lose Les Wexner or Glenn Dubin's money.

Bill Clinton - famously had a hard time picking up women lol. The cope on this is going to be unreal. You guys are such clowns. You should be pissed. He made a promise and he's not keeping it.

Why do you say that? Trump is great for the Democratic Party. They raise billions off him. Losing to him is not that big a deal for them, especially for their donors who also donate a ton to Republicans. Back in 2020, the entire party rallied around a visibly senile man just to keep Bernie off the ballot. Sanders was a huge polling favorite against Trump (just like in 2016) and they risked it all anyway. The leaders of the party would have rather lost to Trump than deal with a Sanders presidency. Always remember, these people would rather lose elections than win and lose their individual power. The Epstein list may well have decimated huge funding networks for both parties. There's an entire industry of lobbying and consulting built off that money who have an interest in keeping those networks in tact.

I also think there's a very good chance Epstein was involved with intelligence agencies, probably multiple (CIA, Mossad, MI6). Ghislaine's father is literally the most famous Israeli spy of all time. It was, at least in part, a blackmail operation. They're not going to want that to come out for a long, long time, if ever.

The Clintons still have very powerful friends in the party. Can't release those files without burying Bill. Why are you so resistant to the idea Trump is in there? Elon said so. We know they knew each other. There are Trump quotes from 25 years ago alluding to his behavior. And now Trump won't release it. At some point, you may need to accept the truth.

It makes sense when you know the Mamdani family background. HIs father is a very famous Indo-Ugandan intellectual. There was a large Indian diaspora community in Uganda. Indians were expelled from the country by Idi Amin in 1972. Mamdani was a very outspoken opponent of this and very invested in his identity as a Ugandan. He was able to return in the 80s after the dictatorship fell and that's where Zohran was born. Mamdani's main project as an intellectual was affirming his identity as an African. It's not surprising that his son would affirm that identity. He wrote in "Ugandan" on the application, in addition to checking Asian. Also, his dad was teaching at the university (and one of its most famous professors). There was a 0% chance there would be any confusion over his race. Here's an example: This was published in his father's book 5 years before he applied to college. Really, really bad reporting from the NYT (as usual). They got this scoop from an avowed white supremacist, race scientist guy on twitter and did basically no vetting. Embarrassing for the paper.

She's a quack that has spent time as a direct advisor to Trump, the guy who is doing all this.

@jross just a harmless joke about feeding immigrants to alligators. nothing to see here. Take a look at this one: 65 million just so happens to be the entire Latino population of the US. Not illegal immigrants, but Latinos in general. This person has a personal relationship to Trump and she's openly joking about feeding an entire ethnic group to alligators. But yeah, the merch is all about "supporting policy."

And I didn't say everyone who buys it takes joy in pain. Just that those people are the intended audience.

The line was in the NY Post - a conservative paper.

Agree to disagree. I very much think the merchandise is geared to those who take joy in the deportations.

Do prisons usually produce their own merchandise? I'm not saying it's illegal. I just think it's extremely distasteful and clearly meant to rile up the base over deportations. The risk here is dehumanizing the people getting deported. You may think it's funny and cool to rep the "Alligator Alcatraz" shirt, but it's not funny to the person whose Grandma just got sent there. Just a matter of class. It's possible to believe in the deportation policy and not feel ecstatic joy at people getting their American Dream shattered.

Yes, that's what I'm saying. I admitted I was wrong and took ownership.

I read an article (in the Post or Times) that said that. Glad to hear they were wrong! As long as they are moving people through quickly, then I agree it is not a concentration camp. However, the merchandise being sold is extremely distasteful. Most of the people being deported are good people going through the worst time of their life. We shouldn't be celebrating that, even if you think it's right (not accusing you personally at all). Edit: It was this article and I slightly misread, so owning that. https://nypost.com/2025/07/01/us-news/first-photos-from-inside-alligator-alcatraz-reveal-bleak-digs-for-up-to-5000-migrants/ Here's the sentence: Opponents have slammed the scheme as inhumane, with one X user comparing footage of the site to “a concentration camp” and adding that they couldn’t see any air conditioning or vents inside the facility. coupled with: But government officials insist the site will have 24/7 air conditioning to survive the sweltering Florida heat and humidity. In the context of slightly misreading the first, I interpreted "will have" as "does not currently have." It's unclear whether those accusations are founded or not. Never say I'm not willing to admit I'm wrong!

There is debate whether it is air conditioned. Many observers had said it's not. Trump admin has said it *will* have AC which is not the same as it *does* have AC.