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You know what? I owe you an apology. Thinking about it, I don't recall you making a deal of pronoun usage. You seem to defend progressive views and victimhood, and I associate that with the pronoun is violence crowd. That's on me. I apologize.

100% agree. I decided it was needed to convey the significance.

I'd want it stopped there too if I made up things like "shouted down."

Third and final call for Yahya... shows up just in time to win 1-1. Wrestling 15lbs heavier than college and looks every bit of it. Solid.

Yahya where are you?

The politicians and media is good at misinforming and making issues out of nothing. It's easy to assume that a team misses the anthem due to player protests, given how frequently the narrative has been presented. LSU says that is not what they did. Okay fine. There is still discussion to be had. There is a difference between not knowing any better, following orders, and showing intentional disrespect. Some deserve a pass, but the other deserves to be called out. Could the remarks about shouting down, rage, and anger actually stem from individuals projecting their own insecurities and defensiveness onto others? Without direct callouts, I assume the remarks include me as a target. I don't feel rage. I feel disgust and dissapointment... similar but more intensely to how I feel when someone doesn't wash their hands after using the bathroom. These comments remind me of my daughter. When I call her out for neglecting her Covid dog, her response is anger. This is a defensive reaction to protect herself from discomfort and guilt.

I'm not for it, but pragmatically I will keep looking the other way. There isn't a humane way to do it at 15 weeks... but better performed by professionals than DIY methods. I'd pay whatever tax is needed to simplify birth control access. I'm in this group of folks who see the mom and others as involved in a murder plot, and the doctor as the hired gun. No point in arguing about it though, we're not gonna change any minds. So let's just agree to disagree and move on.

Its dissapointing that you have strong opinions on pronoun usage that causes no physical harm to anyone! See how that works? Will you explain the irony to me? Why does it bother you that I think people who exercise their right to skirt the anthem protocol are jerks?

Did anybody shout him down? Did anybody say they don't care about what frustrates athletes?

Are they the only two veteran opinions that matter? Arthur Ellers is a war vet that cared. I have family with PTSD who lost military brothers. One (Marine) was shot and shot others. Joined after 9/11. He supports freedom. He sees clowning during the anthem as disrespect. My father was Air Force and did not see combat. He drank beer, played ping pong, and kept the pilots entertained to bide time in case they were needed. He set me straight in the 80s when I was too young to understand.

TPTD, if there ever was a moment for "whatabouts," a forte of yours, it's now, to reflect on those who sacrificed for you. Not all actions carry equal weight. It's reminiscent of the child who refuses to contribute to a class project. While they have the right to abstain, I reserve the right to perceive them as privileged, entitled, thoughtless, and lacking of EQ. These ilk have no idea what respect and timing is. They go to funerals as a good place to network. They answer the phone while taking their wedding vows. They crinkle their chip bag and provide commentary during tense moments of a movie. They play music loudly in the library during finals week. They throw a kegger at an AA convention. The people are free; bless their jerkish hearts.

Are you the type that takes selfies at funerals? Sheesh!

Don't disrespect the miliary that sacraficed for you during the moments that warrant respect. Don't make this about more than that. When you are having your peaceful march and somewhere the flag and national anthem comes out, pay your respect, and then continue your march.

Regardless of your location, when you hear the anthem, you stop moving and show respect. If you are out of the public view and don't hear the anthem, then go about your business. An athlete need not be in public view during the anthem. You do not walk out of view 10 seconds before or during the anthem. We would not choose to force one to pay respect, and you do not show your ass and piss on those that sacrafice(d) for you.

He is asking the same questions that 99% of the sports audience asks themself. This includes me. These are natural questions. I have no problem with asking questions. If you get the education and still show disrespect, then you have shown your ass. Don't we all have family or friends negatively impacted by Military experiences or deaths? Show your respect. Find another way to express you dissapointment in the country without pissing on those who gave you the right.

Accurate ...Baseball fans in the late 19th century might’ve heard live military bands play the Star-Spangled Banner at a game every so often, but the song—which hadn’t yet been designated as the national anthem—wasn’t really a common occurrence at sporting events. That began to change on September 5, 1918, during Game 1 of the World Series between the Boston Red Sox and the Chicago Cubs. ...Yet even though the event featured two teams at the top of their games, the crowd was somber that day, writes ESPN The Magazine. Since entering the Great War a year and a half ago, more than 100,000 U.S. soldiers had died. And just a day before the game, a bomb had exploded in Chicago, (the city in which the game was held), killing four people and injuring dozens more. In addition, the U.S. government had recently announced that it would begin drafting major league baseball players. All this sat heavy on the shoulders of both the players and the smaller-than-usual crowd of fans that day. But during the seventh-inning stretch, the U.S. Navy band began to play the Star-Spangled Banner; and something changed. As the song began, Red Sox infielder Fred Thomas—who was in the Navy and had been granted furlough to play in the World Series—immediately turned toward the American flag and gave it a military salute, according to the Chicago Tribune. Other players turned to the flag with hands over hearts, and the already-standing crowd began to sing. At the song’s conclusion, the previously quiet fans erupted in thunderous applause. At the time, the New York Times reported that it “marked the highest point of the day’s enthusiasm.” ...The Star-Spangled Banner officially became the U.S. national anthem in 1931, and by the end of World War II, NFL Commissioner Elmer Layden ordered that it be played at every football game. The tradition quickly spread to other sports, aided by the introduction of large sound systems and post-war patriotism. https://www.history.com/news/why-the-star-spangled-banner-is-played-at-sporting-events Article 2 continues ...As time passed, playing and singing “The Star-Spangled Banner” became as routine as cracker jacks at ballgames. And for many the patriotic awe faded. By the mid-1950s, with the nation at peace and increasingly fat and happy, crowds were less erect, less attentive and less respectful as the anthem was played. In 1954, Ferris reports, the general manager of the Baltimore Orioles, Arthur Ellers, a World War I veteran complained that about the fact that fans went on talking, laughing and moving around as the anthem was played. “‘To me,'” Ellers said, “‘it’s very distasteful.” ...Of course, while many fans do stop what they’re doing when the anthem is played, remove their hats and shush their children, others still laugh and talk and move about while the anthem is being played. “The next time you’re at sporting event,” Kyle Koster, wrote in the The Big Lead in May, “take a look around notice how many people are locked into their phones, sipping their beer or worse during the playing of the anthem. It’s impossible to know someone’s inner thoughts, but the outward actions suggest someone counting the seconds until they can yell, ‘play ball’ instead of basking in freedoms of the First Amendment.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/08/30/a-brief-history-of-the-star-spangled-banner-being-played-at-games-and-getting-no-respect/

NO! It was Brad Smith!

It would not matter if it was 500 years ago. We should pay our respect. Sure... we no longer draft MLB players into the military and we have not lost 100K soldiers in a recent war. The military strategy has changed to global police. Even if we disagree with the offshort strategy, our military keeps us safe and continues to enable our freedoms. Their sacrifices matter, every single day. Juveniles --- most likely those without children --- can be quite distasteful. Fat, happy, talking, kneeling, messing around, ignorant at best... foolish they are IMO...

I don't care if this situation is click bait or not. I'll treat it as somebody with a dissagrement with the governement. It doesn't matter if you agree with whatever today. Your reason does not matter at all. If I'm the coach and you disrespect the men who died for our rights, you sit the bench.

I am not okay with the governement pulling scholarships for the athlete who skips the national anthem. However, the foolish student fails to appreciate what gave them the right to freedom of expression. If you do not appreciate what the nation stands for, then you should abstain from benefiting from its privileges out of principle. As a coach, I wouldn't want fools to start for my team and I might not have a spot for them next season... Depends on how foolish and how often they are foolish...

Maybe? What does the data indicate? Most Free Countries Least Free Countries And Buddhist? Reference https://assets.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/11/2012/12/globalReligion-tables.pdf https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/freedom-index-by-country

Why would a student accept money from a government entity that they don't support?

In what year and weight did two different wrestlers with the same name place first and fourth in the same weight?

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Wow. Talk about overcoming circumstance.