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Will you say more about that? Who doesn’t want max pay for less work, quality goods/services for cheap, or bigger profits? That's not hypocrisy... That's not only Republicans.

Nobody’s pushing to separate kids from parents. That is rhetoric, not critical thinking. Parents who stay illegally know the risk of deportation, which can split families as a byproduct, not a goal. Blaming the legal system instead of their parental choice is unfair.

It’s not that simple. Citizens compete with illegal workers in jobs like construction and cheap labor affects wages.

What about the responsibility and morals of the parents that choose to abandon their children, or choose to put their children at risk?

You’re missing the point of the analogy. It’s not saying immigrants are literally breaking into your house or stealing your food. It’s about respecting boundaries and rules. A country, like a home, has laws to protect its resources and citizens. Illegal aliens bypass those laws, just like squatting ignores property rights. Sure, a country’s bigger than a house, but the principle’s the same: fairness matters. Calling MAGA heartless for wanting legal processes followed ignores their priorities... caring for Americans first... workers struggling with job competition... a system that rewards those who wait years to enter legally. Citizens should have a say in who lives here and shapes our culture; that’s partly why we have legal immigration processes. Open borders won’t solve poverty.

There is a case to be made that open-border folks are heartless to struggling Americans.

Is it fair to call someone heartless if they’re making hard choices to protect what they think is right? There’s a video that shows even taking millions of immigrants barely scratches the surface of the 3 billion people living on less than $2/day. It’s not about not caring... it’s about realizing we can’t fix everything through immigration. We should prioritize caring for our own people first and stick to legal immigration processes to ensure fairness for those who follow the rules. Helping others is important, but it’s often more effective to support people where they live rather than straining our resources with a system that only helps a few. MAGA could display more compassion, absolutely, but its focus is on priorities that rank above sympathy for illegal aliens. We shouldn’t overlook the rest of America. Any group’s actions can be framed as heartless depending on the examples chosen.

I hope you have a great a day.

No matter how good you are, people will judge you according to their own insecurities.

...the behavior of deflecting from problems to avoid confronting the uncomfortable truth...

I love the idea behind this.

Trump - first the spending - then the Iran interference Bad decisions! If Iran had nucs, they would not use them.

GWN, thank you for providing examples that show while perfect is ideal, done is often better in practice.

Acting chops… DDL, Norton, Oldman How about Christian Bale.

DDL is great… Leo D. and Denzel W… Often… Clint Eastwood or Mel Gibson. I’m going to watch the movie… Not all have oscars and that doesn’t matter.

it’s the insults that exhaust. opinions with reasoning, and facts… are welcome.

I’m in my 40s, married for over 20 years, and a proud dad to multiple kids involved with gymnastics, soccer, wrestling, baseball, and softball. I was a successful high school wrestler and baseball player in my home state. I wanted to become a chiropractor (~90 premed credits), but my father’s tragic motorcycle accident when I was 20 forced me to pause and pivot to software engineering. I have been a project manager, people manager, and engineer at a large, diverse company in a major metro. I’ve directly managed 25 local employees and overseen 50 in another country, while also organizing and volunteering in my community. After company buys and multiple reorganizations, I'm an individual contributor again. Raised Christian, I moved through agnosticism to now theism. I believe important characteristic are personal accountability, discipline, diligence, gratefulness, and healthy pride. I love to help people that want to help themselves... am get frustrated with those that do not. I’m a relentless worker, avid reader, and DIY enthusiast, tackling everything from home projects, mechanics, to coaching competitive baseball, where I’ve guided my team from rec to AAA, mentoring most of the kids since t-ball. I’ve coached youth and high school wrestling. I took a break from coaching early in my marriage and picked it up again when my son started. It was about this time that I joined this forum. My son stopped at 8 and I thought I was done. However my eldest daughter switched from gymnastics to wrestling as a sophomore, just graduated, and it was a blast to watch. I stay active in men’s baseball leagues and American ninja training... though I'm sorting out a solution to multiple rotator tuff tears. I’ve traveled across most of the U.S. and visited countries in the Americas, Asia, Europe, and Australia. I grew up rural, live in a blue suburb now, and work in a progressive city environment. I keep things practical... buying used cars and prioritizing family needs. I try and fail to be stoic and nonchalant. I've very data driven... Now, I’m focused to reach early retirement, eager to make up for time I missed with my kids while working... time my stay-at-home wife had more of... by spending quality moments with my future grandkids... I’m a constitutionalist libertarian who values merit, individualism, small government, capitalism, and a national identity rooted in personal freedom. I believe in laissez-faire principles, letting people chart their own paths with minimal interference. I strongly oppose DEI initiatives in practice, as they often undermine merit and fairness. However, I support free education, housing, and food through college for those who earn it through hard work and academic commitment, alongside a government focused primarily on providing security. I am independent and vote for Democrat and Republican. I do not like Trump but he is a good president. I did not vote for him in 2016 but observed and voted for him in both 2020 and 2024. I follow both on Twitter and have friendly acquaintances of both parties, including politicians. I try to pop people's bubbles with the media lies in this forum...

The term 'receipts' highlights the issue. For example, the parenthetical remark weakens the admission of responsibility. It’s unnecessary and detracts from an otherwise strong statement Yes, I'll share about myself.

This is a good and appreciated topic. Some of us have tried this many times over. Sharing information about us... creating non-political topics... I've tried additional tactics Recognizing the best (and worst) members based on comment reactions given and received Suggesting forum rules and more moderators to enforce forum rules Having AI complete personality assessments based on the member's last 200 comments These facts are why its hard 30% of men admit to trolling online https://www.bustle.com/articles/45430-online-trolling-statistics-reveal-almost-one-third-of-millennial-americans-admit-to-being-internet-trolls 68% of people will situationally troll when they are exposed to others that troll or read something that offends them. https://news.stanford.edu/stories/2017/02/stanford-research-shows-anyone-can-become-internet-troll It's understandable how unruly discussion occurs when someone says something you disagree with. Case in point below: Your call for a kinder forum is appreciated, but your post accusing someone of being a ‘caveman’ and ‘bigot’ seems to contradict that goal. I’m not saying this as a “gotcha”... it’s an example of how hard it can be to stay civil. How can we all share our views more constructively to meet your goal? It's probably more important for the 'reader' to ask clarifying questions before they 'assume' the worst intent and attack the poster based on their often-wrong assumptions.

A practical truth spoken over centuries... Le mieux est l'ennemi du bien - Voltaire 1770 Le mieux est le mortel ennemi du bien - Montesquieu 1726 Striving to better, oft we mar what's well - Shakesphere 1606 To go too far is as bad as to fall short - Confucius 5th Century BCE The phrase “done is better than perfect” is clear and self-evident, promoting action and completion over the paralyzing pursuit of flawlessness, a principle of moderation that needs no further context to be understood. Absolutist dismissal of ‘done is better than perfect’ under any circumstance borders on trollish behavior.

Hockey in Florida is peculiar. It's like cheering the best skier in Qatar.

Rather than bow out, I shared relevant advice: Say it once, say it well, then let it stand. JRoss said "Done is better than perfect." GWN said "Perfect is always better than done. Always. Every single time." Both are right, depending on the context, and neither is universally true. These are facts of life. "Done" suits iterative, low-risk, or time-sensitive scenarios. "Perfect" fits high-stakes, precision-driven, or reputation-critical tasks. As this debate drags on unnecessarily, more advice applies: Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him.

This ^^ Make the casual viewer care and you grow wrestling while some earn a paycheck.

looking forward to it

Nice idea. Next time consider asking us to provide words for each blank without revealing the story. Words like "a noun," "an adjective," or "a verb ending in -ing." The fun comes from the surprise of how the words complete the story.