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I had fun doing this last year and I thought it created discussion. Again, I am just a nobody wrestling fan so feel free to let me know where you think I went wrong or if I have the wrong starter or any general feedback EDIT: I plan to do the same for all of the conferences but I think Big Ten is the only one with all of its conference schedule completed. Big 10 Interactive Brackets Interactive Brackets: use the interactive brackets using the following letters: D, M, T, F (decision, major, tech, fall). Seed changes: You can change those seeds on the 125R, 133R, 141R, etc. sheets and it will automatically update the team predictions based off of seeds with no bonus factored in. Incomplete data: I only have a wrestlers record vs. who I am projecting will be the starters at that same weight. The Big 10 schedule is done so I figured I would get started but I will add in wrester's win-loss records, coaches ranking, RPI, and actual wrestlestat ranking (I have them all listed at #99 right now just to make the formulas work). My Best guesses at the seeds 125 lbs. #1 Matt Ramos (PUR) (6-1 BIG STARTERS) #2 Drake Ayala (IOWA) (6-2 BIG STARTERS) #3 Eric Barnett (WIS) (6-2 BIG STARTERS) #4 Patrick McKee (MINN) (4-4 BIG STARTERS) #5 Braeden Davis (PSU) (5-2 BIG STARTERS) #6 Caleb Smith (NEB) (6-3 BIG STARTERS) #7 Michael DeAugustino (MICH) (5-3 BIG STARTERS) #8 Brendan McCrone (OSU) (5-3 BIG STARTERS) #9 Dean Peterson (RUT) (4-4 BIG STARTERS) #10 Tristan Lujan (MSU) (2-8 BIG STARTERS) #11 Justin Cardini (ILL) (1-5 BIG STARTERS) #12 Massey Odiotti (NW) (2-6 BIG STARTERS) #13 Blaine Frazier (IND) (0-3 BIG STARTERS) #14 Tommy Capul (MD) (0-6 BIG STARTERS) 133 lbs. #1 Jacob VanDee (NEB) (5-1 BIG STARTERS) #2 Dylan Ragusin (MICH) (7-1 BIG STARTERS) #3 Dylan Shawver (RUT) (5-3 BIG STARTERS) #4 Nic Bouzakis (OSU) (6-2 BIG STARTERS) #5 Braxton Brown (MD) (4-3 BIG STARTERS) #6 Aaron Nagao (PSU) (3-3 BIG STARTERS) #7 Cullen Schriever (IOWA) (3-3 BIG STARTERS) #8 Anthony Madrigal (ILL) (4-2 BIG STARTERS) #9 Tyler Wells (MINN) (3-2 BIG STARTERS) #10 Cayden Rooks (IND) (1-2 BIG STARTERS) #11 Nicolar Rivera (WIS) (3-4 BIG STARTERS) #12 Dustin Norris (PUR) (1-5 BIG STARTERS) #13 Andrew Hampton (MSU) (0-8 BIG STARTERS) #14 Patrick Adams (NW) (0-6 BIG STARTERS) 141 lbs. #1 Beau Bartlett (PSU) (7-0 BIG STARTERS) #2 Jesse Mendez (OSU) (7-1 BIG STARTERS) #3 Real Woods (IOWA) (4-2 BIG STARTERS) #4 Brock Hardy (NEB) (4-3 BIG STARTERS) #5 Sergio Lemley (MICH) (4-2 BIG STARTERS) #6 Danny Pucino (ILL) (4-2 BIG STARTERS) #7 Jordan Hamdan (MSU) (3-5 BIG STARTERS) #8 Mitch Moore (RUT) (2-3 BIG STARTERS) #9 Vance Vombaur (MINN) (2-4 BIG STARTERS) #10 Kal Miller (MD) (1-5 BIG STARTERS) #11 Danny Fongaro (IND) (2-4 BIG STARTERS) #12 Greyson Clark (PUR) (0-1 BIG STARTERS) #13 Kolby McClain (NW) (0-3 BIG STARTERS) #14 Felix Lettini (WIS) (0-5 BIG STARTERS) 149 lbs. #1 Ridge Lovett (NEB) (7-0 BIG STARTERS) #2 Austin Gomez (MICH) (3-1 BIG STARTERS) #3 Caleb Rathjen (IOWA) (4-1 BIG STARTERS) #4 Tyler Kasak (PSU) (3-2 BIG STARTERS) #5 Dylan D'Emilio (OSU) (4-4 BIG STARTERS) #6 Ethen Miller (MD) (5-1 BIG STARTERS) #7 Joseph Zargo (WIS) (5-2 BIG STARTERS) #8 Graham Rooks (IND) (3-4 BIG STARTERS) #9 Drew Roberts (MINN) (2-4 BIG STARTERS) #10 Michael Cetta (RUT) (4-4 BIG STARTERS) #11 Marcos Polanco (PUR) (1-4 BIG STARTERS) #12 Aiden Vandenbush (NW) (1-5 BIG STARTERS) #13 Jake Harrier (ILL) (0-4 BIG STARTERS) #14 Braden Stauffenberg (MSU) (0-6 BIG STARTERS) 157 lbs. #1 Levi Haines (PSU) (6-0 BIG STARTERS) #2 Michael Blockhus (MINN) (8-0 BIG STARTERS) #3 Chase Saldate (MSU) (4-1 BIG STARTERS) #4 Brayton Lee (IND) (4-0 BIG STARTERS) #5 Jared Franek (IOWA) (5-3 BIG STARTERS) #6 Joey Blaze (PUR) (3-4 BIG STARTERS) #7 Peyton Robb (NEB) (3-4 BIG STARTERS) #8 Will Lewan (MICH) (3-4 BIG STARTERS) #9 Isaac Wilcox (OSU) (3-3 BIG STARTERS) #10 Joe Roberts (ILL) (2-4 BIG STARTERS) #11 AJ DeSantis (RUT) (1-5 BIG STARTERS) #12 Michael North (MD) (1-6 BIG STARTERS) #13 Trevor Chumbley (NW) (1-4 BIG STARTERS) #14 Luke Mechler (WIS) (0-6 BIG STARTERS) 165 lbs. #1 Dean Hamiti (WIS) (10-0 BIG STARTERS) #2 Mitchell Mesenbrink (PSU) (8-0 BIG STARTERS) #3 Michael Caliendo (IOWA) (6-2 BIG STARTERS) #4 Caleb Fish (MSU) (7-3 BIG STARTERS) #5 Bryce Hepner (OSU) (3-2 BIG STARTERS) #6 Antrell Taylor (NEB) (5-4 BIG STARTERS) #7 Stoney Buell (PUR) (5-3 BIG STARTERS) #8 Cameron Amine (MICH) (0-3 BIG STARTERS) #9 Tyler Lillard (IND) (3-2 BIG STARTERS) #10 Blaine Brenner (MINN) (1-5 BIG STARTERS) #11 Chris Moore (ILL) (2-9 BIG STARTERS) #12 Maxx Mayfield (NW) (2-7 BIG STARTERS) #13 Anthony White (RUT) (1-8 BIG STARTERS) #14 AJ Rodriegues (MD) (0-5 BIG STARTERS) 174 lbs. #1 Carter Starocci (PSU) (3-0 BIG STARTERS) #2 Shane Griffith (MICH) (4-0 BIG STARTERS) #3 Patrick Kennedy (IOWA) (4-2 BIG STARTERS) #4 Edmond Ruth (ILL) (7-1 BIG STARTERS) #5 Rocco Welsh (OSU) (5-3 BIG STARTERS) #6 Jackson Turley (RUT) (5-1 BIG STARTERS) #7 Max Maylor (WIS) (5-3 BIG STARTERS) #8 Andrew Sparks (MINN) (2-3 BIG STARTERS) #9 Donnell Washington (IND) (2-2 BIG STARTERS) #10 Dominic Solis (MD) (2-4 BIG STARTERS) #11 DJ Shannon (MSU) (1-6 BIG STARTERS) #12 Brody Baumann (PUR) (2-7 BIG STARTERS) #13 Bubba Wilson (NEB) (1-6 BIG STARTERS) #14 David Ferrante (NW) (0-5 BIG STARTERS) 184 lbs. #1 Isaiah Salazar (MINN) (7-0 BIG STARTERS) #2 Lenny Pinto (NEB) (8-1 BIG STARTERS) #3 Bernie Truax (PSU) (5-2 BIG STARTERS) #4 Ryder Rogotzke (OSU) (3-2 BIG STARTERS) #5 Jaden Bullock (MICH) (5-4 BIG STARTERS) #6 Layne Malczewski (MSU) (5-4 BIG STARTERS) #7 Shane Liegel (WIS) (3-4 BIG STARTERS) #8 Troy Fisher (NW) (5-4 BIG STARTERS) #9 Brian Soldano (RUT) (4-3 BIG STARTERS) #10 Roman Rogotzke (IND) (2-4 BIG STARTERS) #11 Dylan Connell (ILL) (2-5 BIG STARTERS) #12 James Rowley (PUR) (2-7 BIG STARTERS) #13 Aiden Riggins (IOWA) (1-5 BIG STARTERS) #14 Chase Mielnik (MD) (0-7 BIG STARTERS) 197 lbs. #1 Aaron Brooks (PSU) (7-0 BIG STARTERS) #2 Zach Glazier (IOWA) (7-1 BIG STARTERS) #3 Jaxon Smith (MD) (5-1 BIG STARTERS) #4 Silas Allred (NEB) (6-2 BIG STARTERS) #5 Garrett Joles (MINN) (5-3 BIG STARTERS) #6 Luke Geog (OSU) (3-1 BIG STARTERS) #7 John Poznanski (RUT) (3-2 BIG STARTERS) #8 Evan Bates (NW) (4-5 BIG STARTERS) #9 Ben Vanadia (PUR) (2-6 BIG STARTERS) #10 Gabe Sollars (IND) (2-6 BIG STARTERS) #11 Kael Wisler (MSU) (2-4 BIG STARTERS) #12 Isaiah Pettigrew (ILL) (1-3 BIG STARTERS) #13 Bobby Striggow (MICH) (0-6 BIG STARTERS) #14 Josh Otto (WIS) (0-7 BIG STARTERS) 285 lbs. #1 Greg Kerkvliet (PSU) (4-0 BIG STARTERS) #2 Nick Feldman (OSU) (6-1 BIG STARTERS) #3 Lucas Davison (MICH) (5-2 BIG STARTERS) #4 Seth Nevills (MD) (2-1 BIG STARTERS) #5 Yaraslau Slavikouski (RUT) (4-3 BIG STARTERS) #6 Nick Willham (IND) (4-4 BIG STARTERS) #7 Bradley Hill (IOWA) (3-1 BIG STARTERS) #8 Harley Andrews (NEB) (2-1 BIG STARTERS) #9 Bennett Tabor (MINN) (3-2 BIG STARTERS) #10 Josh Terrill (MSU) (3-6 BIG STARTERS) #11 Jack Jessen (NW) (3-3 BIG STARTERS) #12 Gannon Rosenfeld (WIS) (2-6 BIG STARTERS) #13 Peter Marinopoulos (ILL) (0-5 BIG STARTERS) #14 Tristan Ruhlman (PUR) (0-6 BIG STARTERS) Team Prediction (no bonus factored in) 1. Penn State - 151 2. Nebraska - 102 3. Iowa - 100 4. Ohio State - 92.5 5. Michigan - 90 6. Minnesota - 59 7. Wisconsin - 49 8. Maryland - 41.5 9. Rutgers - 40 10. Michigan State - 38.5 11. Purdue - 35 12. Illinois - 26 13. Indiana - 24.5 14. Northwestern - 11

While I may not have a bias toward any particular team, I do tend to root for guys who came through the Lehigh Valley. From my experience, the strength of the youth system in the region is spread throughout mostly public schools with just a handful of private schools. It's generally accessible to everyone. And the culture and history are rich, boosted by Lehigh University and their success in NCAA wrestling. This is a pocket of land with 131 mile circumference and a population of just over 861,000. As a percentage of the US population it makes up 0.26%. As a percentage of division 1 wrestlers, the region supplies 2.04% of the overall pool. This translates into this region below having a 7.95 times greater conversion rate from resident to division one wrestler. Weight Wrestler College High School WS Rank Status NQ AA VEWL Program 125 Brett Ungar Cornell Notre Dame - Green Pond 21 Starter 1 0 N/A 125 Ryan Milller Pennsylvania Blair Academy 33 Backup 2 0 Stroudsburg 125 Carson Wagner Binghamton Northampton 93 Starter 0 0 Pocono Summit 125 Brandan Chletsos Rutgers Notre Dame - Green Pond 120 Backup 0 0 Palmer Township 125 Braxton Appello Ohio State Easton 187 Backup 0 0 Palmer Township 133 Ryan Crookham Lehigh Saucon Valley 3 Starter 0 0 N/A 133 Julian Chlebove Arizona State Northampton 34 Starter 0 0 Northampton 133 Sean Pierson Princeton Nazareth 46 Starter 0 0 Nazareth 133 Devon Britton Rutgers Northampton 112 Backup 0 0 Northampton 133 Charlie Bunting George Mason Nazareth 167 Redshirt 0 0 Bangor 133 Ashton Campbell Bloomsburg Bethlehem Catholic 216 Redshirt 0 0 Palisades 141 Dante Frinzi Harvard Bethlehem Catholic 147 Backup 0 0 N/A 141 Cael McIntyre American Bethlehem Catholic 184 Starter 0 0 Forks Township 141 David Kreidler Navy Central Catholic 218 Backup 0 0 N/A 149 Tyler Kasak Penn State Bethlehem Catholic 11 Starter 0 0 N/A 149 DaShawn Farber Lock Haven Nazareth 109 Backup 1 0 East Stroudsburg 149 Drew Munch Lehigh Wyoming Seminary 119 Backup 0 0 East Stroudsburg 149 Cole Handlovic Cornell Bethlehem Catholic 134 Backup 0 0 Wilson 149 Kenny Herrmann Harvard Bethlehem Catholic 136 Backup 0 0 Palisades 149 Jarred Papcsy Duke Bethlehem Catholic 150 Starter 0 0 Nazareth 149 Steven Storm Lehigh Pocono Mountain East 154 Backup 0 0 Pocono Mountain 149 Ethan Szerenscits American Northampton 168 Starter 0 0 Northampton 149 Matthew Arciuolo Columbia Saucon Valley 202 Backup 0 0 N/A 149 Oliver Fairchild Campbell Easton 249 Redshirt 0 0 Forks Township 149 CJ Fritz Bloomsburg Northampton 254 Backup 0 0 Lehigh Township 149 Jonathan Miers Princeton Easton 264 Backup 0 0 Forks Township 149 Jake Doone Air Force Nazareth 286 Backup 0 0 Nazareth 157 Sammy Sasso Ohio State Nazareth 3 Injured 4 2, 5, 2 Nazareth 157 Nathan Haubert Lehigh Palisades 84 Backup 0 0 Palisades 157 Luca Frinzi Lehigh Bethlehem Catholic 97 Backup 1 0 N/A 157 Dominic Wheatley Franklin & Marshall Nazareth 234 Starter 0 0 Nazareth 157 Dagen Condomitti Oregon State Northampton 259 Redshirt 0 0 Northampton 157 Marco Albenese Binghamton Emmaus 288 Redshirt 0 0 East Penn 157 Christopher Arciuolo Franklin & Marshall Saucon Valley 290 Backup 0 0 N/A 157 Anthon Micci Franklin & Marshall Wilson 293 Backup 0 0 Wilson 165 Andrew Cerniglia Navy Notre Dame - Green Pond 19 Starter 2 0 Nazareth 165 Liam Scrivanich Rider Saucon Valley 62 Redshirt 0 0 N/A 165 Evan Maag George Mason Notre Dame - Green Pond 67 Starter 0 0 Bethlehem Catholic 165 Holden Garcia Princeton Notre Dame - Green Pond 72 Backup 0 0 N/A 165 Benjamin Haubert Citadel Palisades 75 Starter 0 0 Palisades 165 Evan Gleason Harvard Easton 129 Backup 0 0 Forks Township 165 Jagger Condomitti Nebraska Northampton 146 Backup 0 0 Northampton 165 Landon Muth VMI Bethlehem Catholic 254 Redshirt 0 0 Lehigh Township 165 Riley Hughes Bloomsburg Bethlehem Catholic 267 Redshirt 0 0 N/A 174 Darrien Roberts Morgan State Wyoming Seminary 76 Redshirt 0 0 East Stroudsburg 174 Connor Herceg Lehigh Nazareth 80 Starter 0 0 Nazareth 174 Nick Foster George Mason Nazareth 202 Backup 0 0 N/A 174 Anthony DeRosa Bloomsburg Bethlehem Catholic 217 Backup 0 0 N/A 174 Luke Thomas Bloomsburg Bethlehem Catholic 238 Backup 0 0 Whitehall 174 Nathan Stefanik Princeton Nazareth 278 Backup 0 0 Nazareth 184 Lenny Pinto Nebraska Stroudsburg 5 Starter 1 0 East Stroudsburg 184 Adrian Gacek Clarion Parkland 109 Redshirt 0 0 N/A 197 Sonny Sasso Virginia Tech Nazareth 22 Redshirt 0 0 Nazareth 197 Kolby Flank Bloomsburg Wilson 114 Backup 0 0 Wilson 197 Caden Wright Lehigh Emmaus 156 Backup 0 0 East Penn 197 Chase Levey Drexel Nazareth 168 Backup 0 0 Nazareth 285 Matthew Cruise Pennsylvania Easton 165 Backup 0 0 N/A 285 Karam Chakif Lehigh Dieruff 186 Backup 0 0 N/A

Just saw this and wanted to share a recent experience I had with an older gentleman at a humane society pancake breakfast we hosted. I was volunteering as a server and approached this senior couple about their order. The gentleman was wearing an Oklahoma State cap and I commented that I was a former wrestling coach and very familiar with Okie State wrestling/John Smith. He proceeded to tell me he had played football for Oklahoma State and asked me if I knew who Myron Roderick was. I told him that any astute follower of wrestling was familiar with Roderick. He then shared that he and Myron played racquetball together and even paired up for some doubles. They were close friends up to the time of Myron's death. This gentleman had married a lady from our area and sold his real estate business in Tulsa and moved to smaller town Midwest Missouri. Just a chance meeting that ended up being an interesting story. They also left a very generous tip for our local shelter. Sorry about the highjack.

I tried to have McGonagle called the New Hampster. Didn't work out for some reason.

Evey one knows the 1904 games have an asterisk due to the Russo-Japense war.

I enjoy the fact that you claim all of them. Got one from England?

Without looking, just off the top of my head (probably missing a few big ones). Colorado... Past - Henry Cejudo (technically he went to HS in Colorado for his junior and senior year). Ryan Deakin, Tyler Graff, Connor Medbery Currently Andrew Alirez, Cohlton Schultz, Daniel Cardenas, Isaiah Salazar...

I’m sure everyone has seen this but didn’t see a topic about it. Brock posted the first picture yesterday after the duel then I guess got some heat from Penn state fans so then posted the second picture today. I thought it was funny and not a cheap shot but then he looks classy with the second post.

Stevan Micic

Look at this maniac. Smiling while he snaps a kids neck!

I believe he's suggesting that Bono appears less than professional both in his dress and his actions. Bono is a clown, who makes a big spectacle of himself and draws attention away from his wrestlers with his matside antics.

I thought Swain was from Spokane. Hamlin with the best nickname award: The Vermontser!

Since we are talking about the best wrester CO has to be Adeline Gray:

Alex (Trebek), what is intellectual honesty and principled opposition? You can disagree with and dislike Trump while recognizing unfair treatment.

Pennsylvania: Cary Kolat Ohio: David Taylor Delaware: Sheldon Thomas Massachusetts: Kenny Mallory California: Dave Schultz

They say it's always projection. Maybe Papa Ferrari's twin turbos have shrunken down to the size of Focus four cylinders after years of cycling the engine

https://pistolsfiringblog.com/osu-wrestling-john-smith-says-retirement-plans-not-part-of-the-season/ Bottom of ~4th paragraph. "Eliminate all the crap that we’ve dealt with in the last two years — make sure that is removed and away from your team."

Do HWs have to weigh-in? Could be a good move.

Covered two post' above yours...

Who would it be for New Jersey? Jordan Burroughs right?

Colin Kilrain is another good one from Massachusetts. Took 3rd three times for Lehigh.

Going to step in as an ambassador for a few states Hawaii Travis Lee Vermont Robert Hamlin Louisiana Daniel Cormier Tennesse Jordan Leen New Mexico Joe Puerta New Hampshire Connor McGonagle??? Oregon Louden Swain

Gore predictions: 1. “Within the decade there will be no more snows of Kilimanjaro,” he said to the audience in An Inconvenient Truth. This occurred moments before he makes his prediction for Glacier National Park. Result: Alluding poorly to the title of the Ernest Hemmingway short story The Snows of Kilimanjaro, Gore was trying to claim that Africa’s tallest mountain, with a peak that stands higher than 19,000 feet, would no longer have measurable snow cover on or before 2016. As of November 2022, Snow-forecast.com, a webpage for skiers, reported that an average of 93 combined inches of snowfall (almost 8 feet) hits just the middle altitudes of Kilimanjaro during November and December. And 9 inches of combined snowfall is the average expected for the middle elevations for July and August, the lightest two-month period for snowfall on the middle part of the mountain. The upper altitudes of Kilimanjaro supposedly get pummeled with an average of 171 inches (more than 14 feet) of snow during November and December. Another 127 inches (10 more feet) is expected during April and May. The expectation for September and October is 59 inches. According to Snow-forecast, every two-month period on Kilimanjaro’s higher elevations is expected to feature well over a foot of snowfall. 2. In his history lecture on the hurricanes of 2005, Gore claimed the lesson to learn was that we had been ignoring “warnings that hurricanes would get stronger” because of human-inflicted climate change. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) hosts a regularly updated webpage titled “Global Warming and Hurricanes: An Overview of Current Research Results.” The update as of October 2022 has this to say: We conclude that the historical Atlantic hurricane data at this stage do not provide compelling evidence for a substantial greenhouse warming-induced century-scale increase in: frequency of tropical storms, hurricanes, or major hurricanes, or in the proportion of hurricanes that become major hurricanes. The NOAA lists six named hurricanes making landfall on the continental United States in 2005, including four major ones. What Gore knew (or should have known) but did not mention when he claimed there had been “a lot of big hurricanes” was that the four “major” storms of 2005 were all measured at Category 3 intensity when they made landfall. This includes the star of Gore’s presentation, the obviously devastating Hurricane Katrina that ravaged New Orleans in August 2005. Category 3 is the lowest category that still qualifies as a “major” hurricane by the NOAA’s definition. In 2006 not a single hurricane of any kind made landfall in the continental United States. And then, over the next 10 years through 2016, not a single major hurricane hit the USA. During seven of those years (2009–2015) just four total hurricanes of any kind made landfall, three of them Category 1 and one a Category 2. No comparable era of docile hurricanes appears in the NOAA records going back more than a century. This period of unprecedented calm following immediately on the heels of Gore’s hurricane hyperbole really was—to borrow his analysis— “one for the books.” If Gore proved anything at all, it was that Mother Nature might be real, with a wicked sense of humor, and she decided to spend 11 years making a mockery of his movie. Gore is a self acknowledged climatologist. Apparently he got it wrong. mspart

He did not. He valued his properties to get a loan. Any bank worth their salt will look into these valuations and determine if they are proper or not. If proper, then the loan can go through. If not, then the conditions of the loan will change or the loan will not be made. The bank testified for Trump. They made money and wanted to make more by working with Trump again. Does that sound like fraud to you? Who was defrauded? The banks made money, Trump used the loan money for purposes he had and benefitted. Win win, except it was win lose. How can you claim there was fraud when the entity supposedly defrauded claims they were not and want to do more business with that company? That there tells you the case was already decided when it was brought to trial. In fact, if he committed fraud, that is against criminal code. This was a civil case. That should also tell you something. Is there any doubt that this fine will be vastly reduced or eliminated upon appeal? No doubt. The victim in this case is the State of NY who have just lost any business investment opportunities because of the mania to get Trump. New Yorkers need to vote differently to get a different result for themselves. mspart

I do not want Trump to be President. Does that mean I shouldn't call out corrupt government/judicial operations when I see it? I am off base for calling out corruption. The judicial system is supposed to be fair and unbiased. There was no way this was fair and unbiased and it is easy to see if you will see. I'm not off base. mspart

David was born in Reno, Nevada, but wrestled all 4 years at St. Paris Graham, OH.

I hear that Cael Sanderson guy was pretty good wrestler, HS level in Utah, and held his own collegiately and Internationally. Do we need another topic concerning "Best coach from each state?" Could even be broken down categories: HS, College, International, or combination of all.

While I think they’ll consider CKLV matches (which @bracketbuster seems to agree with based on the 125 records), they will likely give more importance to duals where Van Dee beat Teske. However that probably only matters if Teske is Iowa’s entrant

I don’t think they ignore CKLV matches against other B10 guys. But even if you count the Smith/Ramos match, Ramos still has the best resume and Smith is still in that 4-8 range.

There is no set criteria for seeding the B1G tournie. Instead it is based on a coaches' vote. So hard to say for sure which matters more. Also hard to say if they just consider conference results. If so, then the Smith win over Ramos would not matter as it was at CKLV. With Ramos 8-0 in conference I have to believe he is the top seed. But after that it gets messy. You have five guys with 2 conference losses (Ayala 5-2, Barnett 6-2, Davis 6-2, DeAugustino 5-2, McCrone 5-2) and two guys with three conference losses (McKee 4-3, Smith 4-3). But, both three loss guys have each beaten two loss guys and Ayala did not wrestle Barnett. Smith has beaten 2 two loss guys (Davis, DeAugustino) and lost to 2 two loss guys (Ayala, Barnett) and the other three loss guy (McKee). McKee losses are to the lone conference undefeated (Ramos), one of the two loss guys (Barnett) and a four loss guy (Peterson). I think that loss to Peterson is what causes him to be seeded below Smith. But the real question is do they put any of the three conference loss guys ahead of any of the two conference loss guys? Among the 2 loss guys, McCrone clearly has the weakest resume. I can see them elevating both McKee and Smith above McCrone. With wins over Davis and DeAugustino, maybe Smith even bumps over them. But with conference losses to Ayala and Barnett, I do not see Smith being above those two. So call it a range of 4 to 8 for Smith's seed.

He's scared

Will say it again. Haley is pro-establishment and hasn't accomplished anything that indicates she can lead the country productively. Trump influenced prosperity, country first, and anti-establishment is the overwhelming choice... we already know what we're doing to get... his support is made stronger each day of political prosecution. Somebody has to fight the establishment, and it isn't you, me, or Haley. It isn't that people are unwilling to move past Trump, it is that there are no viable options. I shared this article before... the silent supporters of Trump... https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4242013-trumps-supporters-are-right-in-front-of-you-quietly-living-among-us/

David Taylor is from Wyoming.

i did come up with it myself. i'm very witty. you, on the other hand, are totally oblivious of what nikki haley is or has done. frankly, i'm thinking of setting up an IQ test to remain able to post on Non Wrestling Topics board. i'm tired of talking to idiots.

what fraud was committed and what was the formula to determine the number? why don't you just admit what you are - a cheerleader. you pick a side and throw reason out the window. he did not defraud a single entity. even the banks testified FOR him on a loan paid back in its entirety. for a man that runs around chanting that the USA is crooked, you can't notice the most obvious effin' example.

Aaron Brooks and/or Kyle Snyder is technically the correct answer but feck me I'm going with the Butcher of Baltimore, Rico Chiapparelli

Impressive BB! I've been messing around with it for a while now.

Starocci is getting tired, Mesenbrink got ridden by that tOSU kid, bartlett isn't as good at getting bonus points as david taylor, the true freshmen are complete trash by historical standards.....all I know for sure is that this team is obviously smoking A LOT of weed!

The UK just absolutely crushed it at the 1908 Olympics in freestyle, winning 11 out of a possible 15 medals—including three golds.

Let's just tell it like it is. Haley is the candidate nobody knows for accomplishments but was well funded by democrats. Nobody wanted her to run for president, but she runs nonetheless. I share a lot of views with her on 'isidwith', but I dislike her lobby ties, waffling, military views, and opportunist tendency. Haley will have us fighting wars and not getting anything productive done. What chance does she have against the establishment? The establishment has laid itself bare. Corrupt. Nasty. Manipulative. Deranged. Psychopathic. Enter Trump: the unruly disruptor who defied the odds in 2016 and remains the defiant voice against the status quo. Publically hunted. Yet he lives. To oppose him is to surrender to the establishment's clutches, plain and simple. Now if Haley was more like Javier Milei...

I do hope you pay taxes in all your states.

Isn't Dake from NY?

Overall. David Taylor. Not too long ago I had Lee Kemp.

They (OKST) changed things up a bit. It has to be hard for coaches like Smith and Brands to change. The way they did things worked. I'm sure they believed the next season would be better and before you know it, ten/twenty years have passed them by. Cael hasn't had that. He is the new way of doing things. OKST have been great this season. I believe it has more to do with who is has come than who has gone. Brands and Iowa need a change. But, Brands has to realize it and make it happen or someone higher up has to insist it. That had to be what happened with Smith, one or the other. Even if he knows he's retiring soon, he's made a conscious decision to change up. And so far, so good. Just my thoughts. If I knew anything, I'd be rich...

After said balls are found, then what? Does the back of the shirt provide additional guidance?

kid's on fire

OSU and Coach Smith are showing a very good recovery from PTFD: Post Traumatic Ferrari Disorder. Tom Brands and Iowa are showing some effects of it. That happens with even a small exposure. Watch what happens if they get the full infection.

I don’t remember, what questionable calls did he get? Was that the headgear pull by Zahid? Max Dean is probably the title run that most benefitted from questionable calls that I can remember

They definitely "get" more calls than they get screwed on. Reputation is a thing, but I think they also good cop bad cop the ref. Cunningham is sort of abusive and cael is mute, when its challenge time the deity in the corner politely asks the ref something, ref feels all fuzzy....better tactic than having two clones going nuts...