Best Career - Duke, Bassett, Blaze, Forrest

[okokzach]

Looks like Jax will most likely stay in HS next year 

[bnwtwg]

20 minutes ago, okokzach said:

Looks like Jax will most likely stay in HS next year 

imagine being so S-tier you say "i'll stick around and get a workout at ironman because i want to let my little brother plug his controller in for a few games of Goldeneye just so we can have some fun. no Oddjobs!"

[BruceyB]

4 hours ago, bnwtwg said:

I would consider a top 10 big board to be at least an AA lock 1x.

Paddy Gallagher instantly comes to mind. Facundo is TBD. Chittum and Carroll are teetering on the edge.

If folkstyle exclusively then Amos, but I don't count world teamers while in college to be "flame outs" I call them "studs with a different priority on a folk team coached by a Bonohead"

I'm assuming this is in response to my questioning who are "flame-outs." I don't consider a single person you listed a flameout at this point.. but Carroll could potentially be. Gallagher, Chittum, Facundo, and Amos all seem like guys that simply reached a plateau in high school and haven't been able to keep that trajectory going at the next level. Reaching your peak vs flaming out (losing interest, finding destructive behaviors, etc.) are two very different reasons for lack of college success IMO.  

[nhs67]

7 hours ago, Antitroll2828 said:

Y’all are sleeping on Anthony Knox he’s beaten Bassett and might end up with a better folk career then anyone listed 

What is the track record for NJ 3xers? 

[jackwebster]

A couple of others have mentioned it, but I think Jax grows and not a little. He's still all arms, legs, knees, and elbows. FS I see him at 65, 70 , and eventually 74. In college he'll go: 41, 49, 57,

[Antitroll2828]

2 hours ago, nhs67 said:

What is the track record for NJ 3xers? 

3xers is all over the place and mixed results but Knox is a 4xer and the last two 4xers from NJ both went on to be ncaa champ ( Ashnault and Suriano ) 

[jchapman]

I don't follow HS closely.  Are all four of these locks to be NCAA champs?  

[Truzzcat]

10 hours ago, Antitroll2828 said:

Y’all are sleeping on Anthony Knox he’s beaten Bassett and might end up with a better folk career then anyone listed 

I think in most years he would be the clear 1 guy but his matches with Seidel and dropping one to Ignacio makes me feel like he is not quite as separated and as advanced as his peers mentioned. That being said I think he could AA next year if he went for Cornell.

[Antitroll2828]

1 hour ago, jchapman said:

I don't follow HS closely.  Are all four of these locks to be NCAA champs?  

Idk if anyone is a lock nowadays with all the talent but I personally feel confident at least 3 will be ncaa champ and all 4 will be 4x AA 

[Antitroll2828]

50 minutes ago, Truzzcat said:

I think in most years he would be the clear 1 guy but his matches with Seidel and dropping one to Ignacio makes me feel like he is not quite as separated and as advanced as his peers mentioned. That being said I think he could AA next year if he went for Cornell.

I’m excited to see if Knox makes another jump now that he’ll have elite training partners around everyday , no one in that st .john vianney room was on the same planet as Knox talent wise , now he ll get to roll with ncaa and world champs everyday 

[nhs67]

2 hours ago, Antitroll2828 said:

3xers is all over the place and mixed results but Knox is a 4xer and the last two 4xers from NJ both went on to be ncaa champ ( Ashnault and Suriano ) 

I mean... looking like it's getting revoked innit?

[ScottishSteel]

15 hours ago, bnwtwg said:

I would consider a top 10 big board to be at least an AA lock 1x.

Paddy Gallagher instantly comes to mind. Facundo is TBD. Chittum and Carroll are teetering on the edge.

If folkstyle exclusively then Amos, but I don't count world teamers while in college to be "flame outs" I call them "studs with a different priority on a folk team coached by a Bonohead"

Bono has absolutely wrecked Amos; shoulda been a heavyweight years ago

I'm intrigued by Carroll at Wyoming.  I just kinda trust Branch to get his priorities in order (and if doesn't work there than it won't anywhere)

[MPhillips]

Just now, ScottishSteel said:

Amos; shoulda been a heavyweight years ago

Agreed. I always hoped he would have stayed closer to home...

[ScottishSteel]

5 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

Agreed. I always hoped he would have stayed closer to home...

You must clearly be a WVU fan, huh?

(I kid)

[MPhillips]

Just now, ScottishSteel said:

You must clearly be a WVU fan

I would have been okay with Pitt as well...

[bnwtwg]

1 hour ago, MPhillips said:

I would have been okay with Pitt as well...

They have a better folk heavyweight in Pitzer. Granted, I would rather have a world teamer but this isn't the international board.

[MPhillips]

1 hour ago, bnwtwg said:

They have a better folk heavyweight in Pitzer.

Amos would have been fine...

[ionel]

1 hour ago, bnwtwg said:

They have a better folk heavyweight in Pitzer. 

Pitzer Pitzer!

[Antitroll2828]

11 hours ago, ScottishSteel said:

You must clearly be a WVU fan, huh?

(I kid)

All jokes aside Amos at heavy would be perfect for West Virginia right now 

[RawDog]

On 7/15/2025 at 10:29 PM, Antitroll2828 said:

Y’all are sleeping on Anthony Knox he’s beaten Bassett and might end up with a better folk career then anyone listed 

I hope you are right, but I heard Knox gets ragdolled by vito in the room and Jax just beat Vito. Duke also just stuck yianni.  Yianni is a 4x national champ and one of the greatest college wrestlers ever.  He was never pinned in four years of college.  These kids are unreal.

[Eagle26]

Bo is amazing but he doesn’t belong in the conversation with these other three. Those 3 have beaten very accomplished senior level guys like we have not seen in a very long time. I do think Bo will have an amazing career, I just think like others mentioned, there are other wrestlers close to his level. Blaze, Duke, and Forrest are on a tier of their own. 
 

One thing I find interesting is that we did not get to see Blaze vs Jax during this last world team qualifying process. I’m not sure Jax wins that match if it happens. I do think he is more dynamic while Blaze’s specialty is his defense and reattacks. So to answer the question, I’ll guess Jax, Duke, Blaze in that order for best combined career. But you can’t go wrong with any of those three, they are all just incredible 

[Truzzcat]

1 hour ago, Eagle26 said:

Bo is amazing but he doesn’t belong in the conversation with these other three. Those 3 have beaten very accomplished senior level guys like we have not seen in a very long time. I do think Bo will have an amazing career, I just think like others mentioned, there are other wrestlers close to his level. Blaze, Duke, and Forrest are on a tier of their own. 
 

One thing I find interesting is that we did not get to see Blaze vs Jax during this last world team qualifying process. I’m not sure Jax wins that match if it happens. I do think he is more dynamic while Blaze’s specialty is his defense and reattacks. So to answer the question, I’ll guess Jax, Duke, Blaze in that order for best combined career. But you can’t go wrong with any of those three, they are all just incredible 

The more I think about this and read comments the more I think its too early to tell. Before the Open everyone probably would have said Blaze and then some order of Jax and duke and Bo would have definitely been in the conversation. The rate these kids are still improving is insane. Jax had close matches with Seidel and Raney just months before he dominated the open and then went on to beat Vito. Albeit in Folk not Free but I do not think the same guy that wrestled Seidel in the state finals was winning a lot of those matches.

[wrestlingfan22]

32 minutes ago, Truzzcat said:

The more I think about this and read comments the more I think its too early to tell. Before the Open everyone probably would have said Blaze and then some order of Jax and duke and Bo would have definitely been in the conversation. The rate these kids are still improving is insane. Jax had close matches with Seidel and Raney just months before he dominated the open and then went on to beat Vito. Albeit in Folk not Free but I do not think the same guy that wrestled Seidel in the state finals was winning a lot of those matches.

And I think that tracks with him apparently going from constantly training in a HS room to going to Stillwater and training with Fix, RBY, Spratley and being coached by Zo/DT