Bo Bachelor round 2

[GlassPrison]

4 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

yeah fair enough. my previous post was too dramatic upon re-reading.

Appreciate the reasonableness.  I’m not trying to argue   I don’t like the current state of social media, NIL, comp, etc.  BUT I’m also a coach at heart and want every kid to find the right place for them.

[headshuck]

Can someone summarize what is happening?

[VakAttack]

4 minutes ago, headshuck said:

Can someone summarize what is happening?

Bo Bassett decomitted from Iowa.  Now there's a lot of tangential discussion off that, some on Bo's showy recruitment process, some on guessing at reasons for the decommitment, etc.

[Hammerlock3]

5 minutes ago, GlassPrison said:

Appreciate the reasonableness.  I’m not trying to argue   I don’t like the current state of social media, NIL, comp, etc.  BUT I’m also a coach at heart and want every kid to find the right place for them.

i do too, but in this case i feel the person, who we hope finds the right place, was acting in accordance with what would get the most attention and not with what would get them to the right place.

[GlassPrison]

Just now, Hammerlock3 said:

i do too, but in this case i feel the person, who we hope finds the right place, was acting in accordance with what would get the most attention and not with what would get them to the right place.

Totally get it.  It’s a bummer that we even have to ask those questions at this point.

[BarSeries]

I saw Melvin's newest list of schools without Iowa on it and "Family first" caption or whatever before I knew Bo had decommitted. My level of confusion was sky high. 

[mad_rascal]

Most likely Michigan 

[scourge165]

2 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said:

this post is stupid

Eh, jealousy of an 18-year-old kid is definitely dumber. 

[Tripnsweep]

It'd be something if he ended up at UPJ. I mean honestly why shouldn't he go there? Here's my case for it.

He would be a hometown legend. The guy who could have gone anywhere stayed home and made UPJ relevant. 

He could name his own schedule and even if he did more freestyle he would still win D2 pretty easily. 

He could still wrestle the big name D1 guys at tournaments. 

[juniorvarsity]

8 hours ago, GlassPrison said:

I think there’s a couple questions related to what you’ve mentioned here:

1. Why did he change his mind?

2. What’s the financial implications?

From my perspective, question 1 is irrelevant.  He needs to decide what’s right for him and the answer is really just for my understanding.  I’d love to know, but won’t question his decision based on any outcome.

Question 2 is fully speculative.  That $5mm number seems outlandish to me, but does it really matter?  There’s a lot fluctuating now with compensation.  Regardless of the numbers, I don’t blame the student athlete for shooting for the optimal payday.  There’s no real professional outlet after college.  They should get as much as possible.  It’s a fair question to ask WHO can play on the same field, but once again - for our understanding of the marketplace, and not any indictment on Bo’s commitment.

Nothing matters. Got it.

[Maxwell Smart]

The only thing that matters is that this is a tremendous blow to the Hawkeye program as it tries to to keep pace with PSU and OK ST. Top recruit to build around and it created excitement for their fanbase. How this shakes out for the program will be interesting to watch. It's a huge loss.

[nhs67]

8 hours ago, GlassPrison said:

You asked if the kid was an attention whore.  You’re free to your opinion.  I’m free to believe that you are sensationalizing the issue.

@Hammerlock3 really is harmless.  You'll get used to him.

Forums are to be sensationalized on.

[1032004]

8 hours ago, GlassPrison said:

I think there’s a couple questions related to what you’ve mentioned here:

1. Why did he change his mind?

2. What’s the financial implications?

From my perspective, question 1 is irrelevant.  He needs to decide what’s right for him and the answer is really just for my understanding.  I’d love to know, but won’t question his decision based on any outcome.

Question 2 is fully speculative.  That $5mm number seems outlandish to me, but does it really matter?  There’s a lot fluctuating now with compensation.  Regardless of the numbers, I don’t blame the student athlete for shooting for the optimal payday.  There’s no real professional outlet after college.  They should get as much as possible.  It’s a fair question to ask WHO can play on the same field, but once again - for our understanding of the marketplace, and not any indictment on Bo’s commitment.

Well as far as #1, what changed since he committed?  A booster made some comments? That should be pretty far down the list of things he should care about IMO, especially since it’s not like the comments were racially-charged or something (which, btw a sponsor of tons of PSU/NLWC guys has been - https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/6749780-racially-divisive-post-leads-to-scraplife-shake-up)

The reasons he said he committed to Iowa in the first place are all still there: tradition and the fact that he was a fan growing up, passionate fanbase (heck Bob’s comments probably even show that), Tom & Terry, plenty of Jesus-trained guys there too, and gets to train with Spencer Lee.  Maybe teams were trashing Iowa/HWC because of Woods’s success after leaving and that HWC is nothing but Spencer?  Even still, Spencer was our best guy at the Olympics…

I’m speculating, but my guess is something with the money changed.   Either something happened with his Iowa offer, or another school upped their offer.  Based on Melvin’s comments, I’d lean towards it being something happened with the Iowa offer.  If that’s true (and again, just speculating), that would make the “God told me…” comment a little silly.

But hopefully we find out some more details to know for sure.  I’m not really expecting to though. 

Edited Monday at 11:15 AM by 1032004

[Pinnacle]

I would bet Oklahoma State to join Jax. 

Iowa continues to struggle to keep pace.

[1032004]

Minnow blaming it on Tom Brands

[HokieDave87]

30 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Well as far as #1, what changed since he committed?  A booster made some comments? That should be pretty far down the list of things he should care about IMO, especially since it’s not like the comments were racially-charged or something (which, btw a sponsor of tons of PSU/NLWC guys has been - https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/6749780-racially-divisive-post-leads-to-scraplife-shake-up)

The reasons he said he committed to Iowa in the first place are all still there: tradition and the fact that he was a fan growing up, passionate fanbase (heck Bob’s comments probably even show that), Tom & Terry, plenty of Jesus-trained guys there too, and gets to train with Spencer Lee.  Maybe teams were trashing Iowa/HWC because of Woods’s success after leaving and that HWC is nothing but Spencer?  Even still, Spencer was our best guy at the Olympics…

I’m speculating, but my guess is something with the money changed.   Either something happened with his Iowa offer, or another school upped their offer.  Based on Melvin’s comments, I’d lean towards it being something happened with the Iowa offer.  If that’s true (and again, just speculating), that would make the “God told me…” comment a little silly.

But hopefully we find out some more details to know for sure.  I’m not really expecting to though. 

The reasons he stated he committed are where I disagree, this is all speculation but I think most of that was probably just natural stuff you say when you pick a place:

1. Fan growing up: He was a PSU fan

2. Passionate fanbase: True; but maybe a little more than he bargained for when he saw it up close

3. Tom & Terry: Don't think anybody is truly picking TnT over the staff at PSU/Ok State and even others at this point

4. Jesus Trained: You can be a Jesus trained guy at Iowa but there are other places that do a lot more of that stuff

5. Spencer Lee: I think this was the actual reason, and picking a school to train with a guy who's going to be a few weight classes below you, and doing a lot of traveling doesn't seem like a it should win when you really think about it.

2/5 were objectively true here. Couple this with a potential issue (I don't think the money disappeared for him, but maybe the people putting the money up weren't so friendly behind closed doors, or were a bit aggressive with Melvin?). All speculation, and hopefully we do get more info.

[nhs67]

27 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Minnow blaming it on Tom Brands

And not Terry for once?  Wowzers.

[JimmyCinnabon]

11 hours ago, juniorvarsity said:

I like him to Iowa too. It felt like it was a good fit and I want to see the talent spread out.

Penn State will have a hole at 149 after Shan Van Ness graduates(unlike every other PSU weight class). So there is lineup synergies with him going to PSU. My prediction is that he goes to PSU.

The reason I am predicting him to Okie State is because PSU has such a log jam at most weights but I didn't think about him going 149lbs after Van Ness leaves. That could certainly open up a possibility.

Also - I did not know that Melvin Miller was his brother. A matter of fact this past week is the first I am really even hearing any hype about Melvin Miller. Are they blood related?

[JimmyCinnabon]

10 hours ago, Dark Energy said:

Not a good loo for Bo or Iowa.  Curious what drove this.  Experience with Iowa or seeing what the experience of non-Iowa recruits is.  
 

I’m not 13 years old … but that said, I don’t expect to root much for this guy.  Jax, Blaze, and other guys seem a lot less narcissistic.  

You can win 5 national championships by being a hyper religious narcissist at Penn State!

[JimmyCinnabon]

9 hours ago, VakAttack said:

Wonder what caused God to change his recommendation.

I think this is covered in the NEW New Testament. I believe it's in Sanderson 12:10-3,4. Though shall not forsake FUN for FUN is the life breath of wrestling. Do not follow your path of greatness to the twin devils, work with your brothers at home.

 

I don't know, some sh*t like that.

[NotThatDave]

9 hours ago, VakAttack said:

Bo Bassett decomitted from Iowa.  Now there's a lot of tangential discussion off that, some on Bo's showy recruitment process, some on guessing at reasons for the decommitment, etc.

Don't forget the mocking of the practice of prayer!

[Truzzcat]

As much as I hope it's not, I think it's going to be PSU. Pyles made a cryptic youtube video discussing that he caught wind about it Friday and essentially said Cael does not give up on recruits and then went on to say nothing about OKst. PSU will also be a seamless lineup fit at 149. There would be a ton of overlap at Oklahoma state not that I don't think he would make his way in the lineup, but Vega,Raney,Robiedau,Bassett would all be in that 149-157 range.

[1032004]

How ironic that this whole Bo Bachelor situation might end up being decided because the school that gets him might have wanted Miller more.

[BloodRound]

2 hours ago, Tripnsweep said:

It'd be something if he ended up at UPJ. I mean honestly why shouldn't he go there? Here's my case for it.

He would be a hometown legend. The guy who could have gone anywhere stayed home and made UPJ relevant. 

He could name his own schedule and even if he did more freestyle he would still win D2 pretty easily. 

He could still wrestle the big name D1 guys at tournaments. 

I'm sorry, but this being posted by someone with a Dr. Nick profile pic just makes too much sense.

[BloodRound]

In a move no one sees coming, Bo will actually not wrestle in college and defect to Japan to train for the next Olympic cycle.  Cites that God told him the Bushido code was the only correct way to honor his lord in his training.  We will all be made fools for having followed his college countdown.