Ono - the first time ever that Spencer was overpowered?

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Nolf said Spencer felt as strong as someone his size (and Nolf wrestled 157 pounds and is probably closer to 180 pounds now).  Is Ono the first guy Spencer wrestled to really overpower him?

It was shocking to see.

[Wrestleknownothing]

[Winners Circle]

1 minute ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Nolf said Spencer felt as strong as someone his size (and Nolf wrestled 157 pounds and is probably closer to 180 pounds now).  Is Ono the first guy Spencer wrestled to really overpower him?

It was shocking to see.

You don't watch much international wrestling do you?

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Just now, Winners Circle said:

You don't watch much international wrestling do you?

I don't.  Does Spencer regularly get outmuscled in freestyle?

[ionel]

19 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Is Ono the first guy Spencer wrestled to really overpower him?

 

Obviously not:

[Winners Circle]

21 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

I don't.  Does Spencer regularly get outmuscled in freestyle?

No, but Ono overwhelms and overpowers everyone he wrestles. It's his thing. So the fact that Spencer, who is the smaller of the two and went up in weight, only gave up 3 pushouts, I'd say that's pretty impressive.

[ionel]

28 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

 Is Ono the first guy Spencer wrestled to really overpower him?

Did Spencer have mono?  

[AgaveMaria]

A guy named Ramos, maybe?

[bnwtwg]

1 hour ago, Winners Circle said:

No, but Ono overwhelms and overpowers everyone he wrestles. It's his thing. So the fact that Spencer, who is the smaller of the two and went up in weight, only gave up 3 pushouts, I'd say that's pretty impressive.

Lee did not give up weight - they were about a pound apart at weigh-ins and Ono didn't appear sucked down. If anything, Lee was close to match weight. 

The real question is what does Ono normally weigh and accordingly, has he made any sort of long-term descent down to his 57kg goal or a quick weight cut for last night to get to a catch-weight? I highly doubt that info is going to leak out, simply a fair question to ask. Because if he won 61 while walking around at 59 when the comp was 65+ then yeeeesh!

Edited 23 hours ago by bnwtwg
clarified "at weigh-ins"

[Gantry]

To me Spencer did not look smaller than Ono. 

[1032004]

1 minute ago, bnwtwg said:

Lee did not give up weight - they were about a pound apart. If anything, Lee was close to match weight.

The real question is what does Ono normally weigh and accordingly, has he made any sort of long-term descent down to his 57kg goal or a quick weight cut for last night to get to a catch-weight? I highly doubt that info is going to leak out, simply a fair question to ask. Because if he won 61 while walking around at 59 when the comp was 65+ then yeeeesh!

He claimed in the Flo interview making 59 was easy, but only said “maybe” about dropping to 57. I’m not sure if we know who was “bigger,” but we do know Spencer normally wrestles 57 so it’s probably fair to wonder if wrestling at 57 would change anything about the outcome 

[bnwtwg]

1 minute ago, 1032004 said:

He claimed in the Flo interview making 59 was easy, but only said “maybe” about dropping to 57. I’m not sure if we know who was “bigger,” but we do know Spencer normally wrestles 57 so it’s probably fair to wonder if wrestling at 57 would change anything about the outcome 

I guess we have to wait until September for an answer

[Gene Mills Fan]

Ono quads and his wide stance are like a skid steer on nitro!!

[okokzach]

I don't think those 3.5 ounces made a difference tbh 

[Winners Circle]

5 hours ago, bnwtwg said:

Lee did not give up weight - they were about a pound apart at weigh-ins and Ono didn't appear sucked down. If anything, Lee was close to match weight. 

The real question is what does Ono normally weigh and accordingly, has he made any sort of long-term descent down to his 57kg goal or a quick weight cut for last night to get to a catch-weight? I highly doubt that info is going to leak out, simply a fair question to ask. Because if he won 61 while walking around at 59 when the comp was 65+ then yeeeesh!

I did not say Spencer gave up weight. Obviously they were same weight, hence the fact that they had WEIGH-INS. That's how wrestling works. 

What I said was that Spencer was smaller of the two because he WENT UP IN WEIGHT, which is factual. 

[wrestle87]

Spencer is statically strong in his upper body, but nobody on earth has every accused him of being explosive, and that's what Ono did to him, especially hips down.  You don't ever want to give spencer the opportunity to use his gorilla grip on you, but strength is only as strong as its foundation. 

Spencer has small very injured legs.  Japanese wrestlers, the men in particular, are built like brick *I poop my pants, don't laugh at me*houses in the legs across the board.  

Ono got hip to hip with spencer and overpowered him laterally.  Getting pushed laterally is unfortunately not aided by being good at pullups.  

[wrestle87]

32 minutes ago, wrestle87 said:

Spencer is statically strong in his upper body, but nobody on earth has every accused him of being explosive, and that's what Ono did to him, especially hips down.  You don't ever want to give spencer the opportunity to use his gorilla grip on you, but strength is only as strong as its foundation. 

Spencer has small very injured legs.  Japanese wrestlers, the men in particular, are built like brick *I poop my pants, don't laugh at me*houses in the legs across the board.  

Ono got hip to hip with spencer and overpowered him laterally.  Getting pushed laterally is unfortunately not aided by being good at pullups.  

@Husker_Du Really? What are we doing here?

[Hammerlock3]

it probably one of the few times lee got someone shorter than him.

[ionel]

17 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

it probably one of the few times lee got someone shorter than him.

Except for working out with Tom & Terry in the room.  

[Hammerlock3]

2 minutes ago, ionel said:

Except for working out with Tom & Terry in the room.  

yeah but they kick his a$$ too.

[JimmyCinnabon]

10 hours ago, ionel said:

Did Spencer have mono?  

A lot of guys get mono four times. 

[JimmyCinnabon]

3 hours ago, Winners Circle said:

I did not say Spencer gave up weight. Obviously they were same weight, hence the fact that they had WEIGH-INS. That's how wrestling works. 

What I said was that Spencer was smaller of the two because he WENT UP IN WEIGHT, which is factual. 

Why doesn’t Ono, the larger of the two men, not simply eat Spencer Lee?

[Hammerlock3]

4 minutes ago, JimmyCinnabon said:

A lot of guys get mono four times. 

Lee couldn't ask for much more slack from the wrestling public...no one even remembers that Sebastian beat him on grit twice in a row. 

[666]

11 hours ago, Winners Circle said:

No, but Ono overwhelms and overpowers everyone he wrestles. It's his thing. So the fact that Spencer, who is the smaller of the two and went up in weight, only gave up 3 pushouts, I'd say that's pretty impressive.

Spencer was 0.1 kg smaller, that's less than a 1/4 pound.  

Edited 13 hours ago by 666

[666]

49 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said:

Lee couldn't ask for much more slack from the wrestling public...no one even remembers that Sebastian beat him on grit twice in a row. 

Nobody is unbeatable.