Hawkeyes vs Cowboys thread

[MPhillips]

1 minute ago, WildTurk said:

To get you to respond like you just did

Missed.

Beast and I have a loving relationship...

[Hammerlock3]

125: Spratley dec. Cruz 3-0

133: Ayala dec. Witcraft 3-3

141: Jamison dec. Schriever 6-3

149: Parco dec. Young 6-6

157: Teemer dec. Fish 9-6

165: Caliendo dec. Amine 12-6

174: Hamiti dec. Kennedy 12-9

184: Ferrari dec Plott 15-9

197: Buchanan dec. Surber 18-9 

285: Hendrickson fall. Keuter 18-15

[BruceyB]

35 minutes ago, 666 said:

Keuter isn't a typical HWT though. He's skinnier/quicker than most. Plus he's not got bad stuff on the mat either, at least by HWT standards. I could see Keuter holding Hendrickson to a 10-3 type decision, or getting teched/pinned. 

Strong opinion. You see the match ranging from a decision to a pin? For the record, being skinny is not a beneficial trait when wrestling Hendrickson. That usually winds up with counting lights.

[BruceyB]

11 minutes ago, Spencerlee said:

Ferrari over Plott, you heard it here 2nd.

Care to wager?

Edit: I will take on all wagers regarding this matter.

Edited 5 hours ago by BruceyB

[Mr. PeanutButter]

Inside me are 2 birds. One is reasonable, the other listens to K-Pop. The crazy one is currently winning and has enlightened me with its wisdom. Ergo, the following is assured (this is not investment advice):

Sprat Dec 2-0: 3-0 OKST

Ayala mdec 14-4: 4-3 HAWK

Tagen dec 8-2: 6-4 OKST 

Parco dec 10-4: 7-6 HAWK

Teemer dec 8-7: 10-6 HAWK

Caliendo dec 4-2: 13-6 HAWK

Hamiti mdec 12-3: 13-10 HAWK

Arnold dec 4-1: 16-10 HAWK

Buchanan dec 5-2: 19-10 HAWK

Pindrickson pin: 19-16 HAWK

IT HAS BEEN WRITTEN

 

Edited 5 hours ago by Mr. PeanutButter

[666]

8 minutes ago, BruceyB said:

Strong opinion. You see the match ranging from a decision to a pin? For the record, being skinny is not a beneficial trait when wrestling Hendrickson. That usually winds up with counting lights.

Yeah, I know, but Keuter is different than most of those fat heavies because he actually has mobility and some decent technique. Hendricksen is pinning/teching guys who are mostly dancing bear type fatties and that a matchup against a quick HWT may be a different challenge for him. I think despite Gable smoking Keuter last week (and you know there's only a couple guys Gable can't techfall) that Keuter has improved this year and I think he's a legit AA contender.  He may have the quickness to avoid some of Hendrickson's stuff and generate some offense of his own. Maybe. 10-3 is a pretty dominant decision, despite it not scoring bonus team points, and I don't think it's crazy to say I see Keuter losing by dec or by tech/fall. Not only that, but he has a chance, albeit small, of actually winning. Fluke falls happen all the time, I saw one in the Lilledahl match last week! 

[nhs67]

32 minutes ago, Le duke said:

Hendrickson is one of those guys where if he's even marginally better than you, it's bonus time. And I think he's markedly better than Kueter. 

I think he's going to pour it on, and ends it before 7:00 of match time has expired. Tech or pin.

 

For those curious on the difference, Markedly >>> Marginally

[nhs67]

8 minutes ago, 666 said:

Yeah, I know, but Keuter is different than most of those fat heavies because he actually has mobility and some decent technique. Hendricksen is pinning/teching guys who are mostly dancing bear type fatties and that a matchup against a quick HWT may be a different challenge for him. I think despite Gable smoking Keuter last week (and you know there's only a couple guys Gable can't techfall) that Keuter has improved this year and I think he's a legit AA contender.  He may have the quickness to avoid some of Hendrickson's stuff and generate some offense of his own. Maybe. 10-3 is a pretty dominant decision, despite it not scoring bonus team points, and I don't think it's crazy to say I see Keuter losing by dec or by tech/fall. Not only that, but he has a chance, albeit small, of actually winning. Fluke falls happen all the time, I saw one in the Lilledahl match last week! 

Hendrickson actually has the same amount of non-pin/tech victories this season against both categories mentioned (non/dancing bears).

[MPhillips]

8 minutes ago, 666 said:

Fluke falls happen all the time, I saw one in the Lilledahl match last week! 

Looked like a guy took top knowing that was his opportunity and he cradled and pinned the other guy. What part was flukey?

Just now, nhs67 said:

For those curious on the difference, Markedly >>> Marginally

For the dummies in the back...

[PSULou64]

I'm not great at predictions and trying to go through the whole line up would probably just be bad but part of me thinks that Caliendo majors Amine.  I think the constant attack rate poses a bonus point scenario there. Am I the only one who thinks that?

[Wrestleknownothing]

16 minutes ago, 666 said:

Yeah, I know, but Keuter is different than most of those fat heavies because he actually has mobility and some decent technique. Hendricksen is pinning/teching guys who are mostly dancing bear type fatties and that a matchup against a quick HWT may be a different challenge for him. I think despite Gable smoking Keuter last week (and you know there's only a couple guys Gable can't techfall) that Keuter has improved this year and I think he's a legit AA contender.  He may have the quickness to avoid some of Hendrickson's stuff and generate some offense of his own. Maybe. 10-3 is a pretty dominant decision, despite it not scoring bonus team points, and I don't think it's crazy to say I see Keuter losing by dec or by tech/fall. Not only that, but he has a chance, albeit small, of actually winning. Fluke falls happen all the time, I saw one in the Lilledahl match last week! 

I don't know about that. Hendrickson finished 2023 with pinfalls over Lucas Davison and Skinny Tony Cassioppi at NCAAs.

I wasn't willing to look up the weights of anyone else, but I suspect the 25 pinfalls and 8 techs since then have been against a variety of shapes and sizes.

[666]

2 minutes ago, PSULou64 said:

I'm not great at predictions and trying to go through the whole line up would probably just be bad but part of me thinks that Caliendo majors Amine.  I think the constant attack rate poses a bonus point scenario there. Am I the only one who thinks that?

You are probably the only guy who expects that. Most of us are probably expecting a 4-1 type win by Caliendo, maybe even in SV. 

[TylerDurden]

5 minutes ago, PSULou64 said:

I'm not great at predictions and trying to go through the whole line up would probably just be bad but part of me thinks that Caliendo majors Amine.  I think the constant attack rate poses a bonus point scenario there. Am I the only one who thinks that?

Yes. Because we all know Amine only wrestles 2-1 matches. 

[Gene Mills Fan]

56 minutes ago, BruceyB said:

You're absolutely correct. Assuming the line-ups feature all 20 regular starters, it would require a very unexpected upset for this dual to not end up 5-5.

that's why the bonuses are big for this dual. 

[BruceyB]

1 minute ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

that's why the bonuses are big for this dual. 

And most likely bonuses are on OKST's side.

[Gene Mills Fan]

59 minutes ago, Spencerlee said:

Ferrari over Plott, you heard it here 2nd.

Only one guy has Brands going at 174  How are their styles different against Hamiti? I think Nelson's defense might get him the bid?

[CHROMEBIRD]

Would be fun to see this dual come down to the wire:

125: Cruz dec Spratley - 3-0 Hawks

133: Ayala maj Witcraft - 7-0    

141: Jamison dec Schrock - 7-3

149: Parco dec Young - 10-3

157: Fish dec Estrada - 10-6

165: Caliendo dec Amine - 13-6

174: Hamiti maj Kennedy - 13-10

184: Plott dec Ferrarnold - 13-13 

197: Buchanan dec Surber - 16-13 Hawks

285: Hendrickson tf Kueter - 16-18 OSU

[Ragu]

125 Spratley maj Cruz 4-0

133 Ayala tech Witcraft 5-4

141 Jamison dec Schriever 7-5

149 Parco dec Young 8-7

157 Teemer dec Fish 11-7

165 Caliendo dec Amine 14-7

174 Hamiti dec Kennedy 14-10

184 Plott dec whoever 14-13 

197 Surber dec Buchanan 16-14

HWT Hendrickson pin Kueter 22-14

Gotta have some drama here

 

[Husker_Du]

Surber over Buchanan, huh? bold

Caliendo and Amine hit twice - both times at B1G's last year. Both SV wins for Caliendo. 

 

[okokzach]

Just now, Husker_Du said:

Surber over Buchanan, huh? bold

Caliendo and Amine hit twice - both times at B1G's last year. Both SV wins for Caliendo. 

 

What are the top 3 most likely upsets if everyone is healthy?

[ionel]

1 hour ago, MPhillips said:

For the dummies in the back...

[okokzach]

1 hour ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

Inside me are 2 birds. One is reasonable, the other listens to K-Pop. The crazy one is currently winning and has enlightened me with its wisdom. Ergo, the following is assured (this is not investment advice):

Sprat Dec 2-0: 3-0 OKST

Ayala mdec 14-4: 4-3 HAWK

Tagen dec 8-2: 6-4 OKST 

Parco dec 10-4: 7-6 HAWK

Teemer dec 8-7: 10-6 HAWK

Caliendo dec 4-2: 13-6 HAWK

Hamiti mdec 12-3: 13-10 HAWK

Arnold dec 4-1: 16-10 HAWK

Buchanan dec 5-2: 19-10 HAWK

Pindrickson pin: 19-16 HAWK

IT HAS BEEN WRITTEN

 

I'm not sure which is the bolder prediction, that Arnold beats Plott or that Arnold wrestles over Ferrari 

[BruceyB]

11 minutes ago, okokzach said:

What are the top 3 most likely upsets if everyone is healthy?

Cruz over Spratley - Cruz is very solid offensively

Fish over Teemer - Teemer wrestles close matches and Fish is a wildman.

Amine over Caliendo - Amine always wrestles close and if he picks his spot, he could win 4-1.

 

 

[Truzzcat]

I think suber can sting Buch if he wrestles like he did against Salazar because he is so tricky in scrambles. If he is actively getting to legs I think he should get a few takedowns to potentially one from surber.

 

125 Spratley maj Cruz 4-0

133 Ayala Maj Whitcraft 4-4

141 Jamison Maj Schriever 8-4

149 Parco dec Young 8-7

157 Teemer dec Fish 10-8

165 Caliendo dec Amine 13-8

174 Hamiti Maj Kennedy 13-12

184 Plott dec Ferrari 15-13

197 Buch dec Suber 16-15

HWT Hendrickson pin Kueter 21-16

[okokzach]

34 minutes ago, BruceyB said:

Cruz over Spratley - Cruz is very solid offensively

Fish over Teemer - Teemer wrestles close matches and Fish is a wildman.

Amine over Caliendo - Amine always wrestles close and if he picks his spot, he could win 4-1.

 

 

My 3 would be Ferrari over Plott, Cruz over Spratley, and Surber over Buchanan. I like your answer better though