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2 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

I hate to see a broken man like this.  Poz had no defense for Barr.  Tech fall.  Whenever they match up, if it does happen,  Barr is going to annihilate Ferrari. 

It’s possible but Ferrari has lost one match in college and hardly ever gives up takedowns. 

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Posted

Kerk wins 2-0 and the dual is over.  Peterson over Lilledahl is the only win for Rutgers.  I bet that's the first (and last) time that Lilledahl is the only member of his dual team to lose his individual match. 

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Posted
9 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

Kerk wins 2-0 and the dual is over.  Peterson over Lilledahl is the only win for Rutgers.  I bet that's the first (and last) time that Lilledahl is the only member of his dual team to lose his individual match. 

chicken?  😉

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Posted
Kerk wins 2-0 and the dual is over.  Peterson over Lilledahl is the only win for Rutgers.  I bet that's the first (and last) time that Lilledahl is the only member of his dual team to lose his individual match. 

I’m hoping he’ll learn from that match. He’s a lot better from neutral than he’s showed so far.

Against Nebby he would take an 80% shot and, to my eyes, make contact with Smith’s knee, and then…stop. Makes me wonder if he has been having a hard time scoring in the room and it’s a confidence thing.


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Posted

Bartlett looked bad. Didn't come to wrestle - phoned it in.

Almost as bad as Kirkvliet.

It is as if a number of the Penn State wrestlers aren't seeing enough mat time out of the room.

If this team thinks they can set a record at Nationals they are fooling themselves if they keep this up. "Bonus Points"? The only record they get will be for stall points.

” Never attribute to inspiration that which can be adequately explained by delusion”.

Posted
5 hours ago, AgaveMaria said:

Bartlett looked bad. Didn't come to wrestle - phoned it in.

Almost as bad as Kirkvliet.

It is as if a number of the Penn State wrestlers aren't seeing enough mat time out of the room.

If this team thinks they can set a record at Nationals they are fooling themselves if they keep this up. "Bonus Points"? The only record they get will be for stall points.

I didn’t think Bartlett looked bad.  Kerk a little.

But even if you think they looked bad, isn’t this usually the time of year where they “look bad” because of a hard training week or something and then they always look good at NCAA’s?

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Posted (edited)

Kerk wrestled a safe gameplan to win against a guy who is fast, explosive, and strong.  He coasted.  No problem with that, but he wins the match the way it was wrestled 10/10 times.

Bartlett just won by more than one takedown against a guy who has three other losses on the season by one takedown (or less).  That is like MM winning via techfellery.  He didn't look bad.  I am not sure why thinking he should have a wide margin on an AA quality wrestler is a requirement for him to do well.  He won that match pretty easily.

LL looked like the cut might be a thing.  He is at 133 for them next year.  Davis at 141.

Barr with a 1M19S techfall against Poz?  HFS.  To put that in to perspective, here are his other losses via bonus:
2023-24 season-
- 3/21/24, NCAAs via 14-4 MAJ to Tanner Sloan
2022-23 season-
- NONE
2021-22 season-
- 1/16/22, Penn State dual via 10-2 MAJ to Aaron Brooks (184)
2020-21 season-
- 3/6/21, B1Gs via 10-2 MAJ to Aaron Brooks (184)

B1G champ vs B1G champ?  Davis wins?  Not impressive, but he got the dub against another high profile guy.  VanDee might just wrestle Michigan guys tough.  That could be a thing.

Kasak 4-0 over Harer?  That one was perplexing and concerning.  This is the same guy that a HEW-Ed Scott techfalled rather easily.

Turley putting up a fight against Haines wasn't a surprise.  I think Haines gets bonus next time, if they meet again.  While it was close, it really wasn't.  Haines was never in danger.

Starocci with the techfellery on SCW?  Is it insane to think that a 4x champ has nearly doubled his bonus rate from last year as of now?  52% VS 100%...

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"I know actually nothing.  It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me

 

 

Posted
10 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Deleted mine, @flyingcement beat me.

Lilledahl will not be an undefeated 4xer

Yeah... Let's see if he can get a win over a topped 5 ranked opponent first.  Too many Penn State fans Horse Cart GIF by Sealed With A GIF

Posted
13 hours ago, flyingcement said:

Dean Peterson with the clutch takedown to defeat Lilledahl 4-1.

Now Shawver vs Davis

I nearly jumped out of my Lazyboy in excitement when he got the takedown near the end!

Posted
2 hours ago, nhs67 said:

Kerk wrestled a safe gameplan to win against a guy who is fast, explosive, and strong.  He coasted.  No problem with that, but he wins the match the way it was wrestled 10/10 times.

Bartlett just won by more than one takedown against a guy who has three other losses on the season by one takedown (or less).  That is like MM winning via techfellery.  He didn't look bad.  I am not sure why thinking he should have a wide margin on an AA quality wrestler is a requirement for him to do well.  He won that match pretty easily.

LL looked like the cut might be a thing.  He is at 133 for them next year.  Davis at 141.

Barr with a 1M19S techfall against Poz?  HFS.  To put that in to perspective, here are his other losses via bonus:
2023-24 season-
- 3/21/24, NCAAs via 14-4 MAJ to Tanner Sloan
2022-23 season-
- NONE
2021-22 season-
- 1/16/22, Penn State dual via 10-2 MAJ to Aaron Brooks (184)
2020-21 season-
- 3/6/21, B1Gs via 10-2 MAJ to Aaron Brooks (184)

B1G champ vs B1G champ?  Davis wins?  Not impressive, but he got the dub against another high profile guy.  VanDee might just wrestle Michigan guys tough.  That could be a thing.

Kasak 4-0 over Harer?  That one was perplexing and concerning.  This is the same guy that a HEW-Ed Scott techfalled rather easily.

Turley putting up a fight against Haines wasn't a surprise.  I think Haines gets bonus next time, if they meet again.  While it was close, it really wasn't.  Haines was never in danger.

Starocci with the techfellery on SCW?  Is it insane to think that a 4x champ has nearly doubled his bonus rate from last year as of now?  52% VS 100%...

PSU was pretty flat last night. Kasak had a semi-tough match against a guy he probably should've majored, Kerk barely beating his opponent 2-0. Maybe Carl is working the boys too hard? 

Posted
2 hours ago, 1032004 said:

I didn’t think Bartlett looked bad.  Kerk a little.

But even if you think they looked bad, isn’t this usually the time of year where they “look bad” because of a hard training week or something and then they always look good at NCAA’s?

That's what I thought too. PSU looked flat to me. 

Hey, at least they aren't Oklahoma, Michigan, or Wisconsin! 

Posted
7 hours ago, AgaveMaria said:

Bartlett looked bad. Didn't come to wrestle - phoned it in.

Almost as bad as Kirkvliet.

It is as if a number of the Penn State wrestlers aren't seeing enough mat time out of the room.

If this team thinks they can set a record at Nationals they are fooling themselves if they keep this up. "Bonus Points"? The only record they get will be for stall points.

or they are worn out from too MUCH mat time IN the room. Cael should give 'em the weekend off to recover and go semi-easy on them next week. 

Posted
1 minute ago, 666 said:

or they are worn out from too MUCH mat time IN the room. Cael should give 'em the weekend off to recover and go semi-easy on them next week. 

They were definitely flat last night. But that is also an annual thing. Train hard now and taper for NCAAs. If it means some shaggy performances in January to get your best in March, then so be it.

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Posted
24 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

They were definitely flat last night. But that is also an annual thing. Train hard now and taper for NCAAs. If it means some shaggy performances in January to get your best in March, then so be it.

He also must be trying to preserve being the only 4x undefeated.  Barr still alive though 

Posted (edited)

@nhs67 Starocci was at 100% bonus last year before hurting his knee last match. 
 

Agree with most of the takes here, but disagree completely with Kasak. That was a dominating 4-0 match.  Could have had played catch and release and got bonus?  I believe so. But when you ride a guy for over 4 minutes and don’t give up a point, I’m just not seeing that as a bad match

 

only head scratcher for me was Kerk. Apparently been sick. Weighed 254 a couple weeks back and 242 last night

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Posted
12 hours ago, flyingcement said:

Slav got low and so close to Kerk's legs, but didn't go for a takedown.

Conner Harer was a top 25 P4P recruit. 151-1, 3 Pa State titles his last 3 years in hs. Kasak controlled the match against a good, if young and unknown, wrestler.

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