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Like they say of Trump, this is being said with  evidence.   They problem is they don't go looking for any evidence because they don't want to find it.   Interesting this is coming out now. 

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32 minutes ago, mspart said:

Like they say of Trump, this is being said with  NO evidence.   They problem is they don't go looking for any evidence because they don't want to find it.   Interesting this is coming out now. 

mspart

I mistyped and only saw it just now.   I meant to say that it is being said with no evidence.   This is the media's go to when they don't want to investigate any further. 

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1 hour ago, Tripnsweep said:

It's on Twitter it must be true. Don't quit your day job Kojak. 

This is pot calling the kettle black.   Hardly a refutation.  Weak sauce.  

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Posted
3 hours ago, PortaJohn said:

 I didn't participate in any of the J6 threads so I do not know what your stance was

Is it true Trip was there?  I think I saw his picture.  😉

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Posted
1 minute ago, uncle bernard said:

You legit need to learn how to read and process information. Those aren't FBI agents. They're snitches.

Snitches perhaps paid for by the us govt?

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21 minutes ago, uncle bernard said:

You legit need to learn how to read and process information. Those aren't FBI agents. They're snitches.

But 23 weren't supposed to be there.  What does that make the 23?

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3 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

You legit need to learn how to read and process information. Those aren't FBI agents. They're snitches.

you're close to just being a big ball of shi1t in my mind.

'confidential informant'. it's almost worst than actually being on the payroll.

regardless, it's another right wing 'conspiracy' come true.

your team stays losing, moron.

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7 hours ago, Husker_Du said:

you're close to just being a big ball of shi1t in my mind.

'confidential informant'. it's almost worst than actually being on the payroll.

regardless, it's another right wing 'conspiracy' come true.

your team stays losing, moron.

What exactly was the conspiracy?  Wasn’t it that the FBI instigated the riot or something, not just a few of them maybe being in the crowd?

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I was not a fan of what was happening on January 6th.  I just didn't think it was a good look for our country.

I also don't feel it was an "insurrection" and many have painted it to be.  We have more privately owned firearms in this country than any nation ever has in history.  I would bet that many of the unlawfully jailed "J6 insurrectionists" have their share of firearms at home.  That would mean this was the worst organization for an insurrection ever, an "insurrection" where no one remembered to bring their guns.  Or actually, not really an insurrection at all.

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When you hear there were 26 undercover informants in the crowd on January 6, does that make you question the official story about what happened that day?

Note: this is not directed at those of us that believed this and were skeptical years ago.

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How many of those 26 "non-agents just happening to be on the mall that day minding their business" got arrested and prosecuted?  I am sure one of our data flinging savants on these boards can give us the probability that of any random group of 26 people in the J6 crowds not one of them get even a visit from the feds.  I suspect that we can prove a statistically significant difference in behavior of the DOJ and FBI to these "non-agents not acting in any official capacity" from those in the crowd right next to them.

If there is a difference in the official behavior toward those 26 "non-agents" then it is right and proper to presume they were acting in some official capacity.  It's just math but my math has been declared bad so I defer to my math-betters to do the calc.

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7 minutes ago, Lipdrag said:

How many of those 26 "non-agents just happening to be on the mall that day minding their business" got arrested and prosecuted?  I am sure one of our data flinging savants on these boards can give us the probability that of any random group of 26 people in the J6 crowds not one of them get even a visit from the feds.  I suspect that we can prove a statistically significant difference in behavior of the DOJ and FBI to these "non-agents not acting in any official capacity" from those in the crowd right next to them.

If there is a difference in the official behavior toward those 26 "non-agents" then it is right and proper to presume they were acting in some official capacity.  It's just math but my math has been declared bad so I defer to my math-betters to do the calc.

3 of them were asked to be there. No one has said why the other 23 showed up.  Maybe they all work for Uber Eats and a bunch of people ordered sandwiches, that'd explain the non-random event.  🙄

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Posted
1 hour ago, headshuck said:

26. Right.

This is from information provided by the FBI, likely incomplete.  It doesn’t include any from other agencies, like marshals, ATF, and the most suspected of all- DHS.    

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13 hours ago, Husker_Du said:

you're close to just being a big ball of shi1t in my mind.

'confidential informant'. it's almost worst than actually being on the payroll.

regardless, it's another right wing 'conspiracy' come true.

your team stays losing, moron.

What is the conspiracy? That the FBI had people undercover at a large political protest? They have people undercover at *every* large political protest. They've been doing this for 60 years.

For the record, I don't really care about Jan 6. I'm just not sure why you think this knowledge is supposed to upend my worldview?

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Just now, uncle bernard said:

What is the conspiracy? That the FBI had people undercover at a large political protest? They have people undercover at *every* large political protest. They've been doing this for 60 years.

For the record, I don't really care about Jan 6. I'm just not sure why you think this knowledge is supposed to upend my worldview?

They said 23 of the 26 were not there "undercover" so why? 

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3 minutes ago, ionel said:

They said 23 of the 26 were not there "undercover" so why? 

Because they were there on their own time. Do you know what informants are? They're members of the group they're informing on. In criminal cases, they're almost always still committing crimes. The information they provide protects them. Likely the case here.

And the degree to which these people informed is not clear. The 26 could refer to anyone the FBI made contact with or received any information from. Trust me, the feds are well integrated into every political movement in this country. It's an open joke in left-wing circles (who are historically who the feds have targeted).

It don't think it's plausible to say that this whole thing was manufactured by the feds, which I take to be the insinuation? I think it's more likely that these people were stupid, passionate, and misled by a man they deeply adored into thinking the election was stolen and things got out of hand. As someone who was present at a lot of Pro-Palestine protests, I can attest that though people didn't show up with the intention to be aggressive, when cops show up and start shoving, all bets are off. Just human nature at that point. That's my best explanation.

And I'm willing to admit I'm wrong if more info comes to light, but what Willie posted is not that big and he misrepresented it on top of that (or at least the tweet he linked did).

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