Hammerlock3 Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 It was a maybe when he made the team, now Saduleav is going....if he doesn't go I'm gonna be pissed. If Taylore beat him I'd put him back in the GOAT discussion. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
headshuck Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 Here’s a great chance to cement his legacy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 2 hours ago, headshuck said: Here’s a great chance to cement his legacy. I feel like it's kind of, "cemented" already, but I hear ya... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted October 5 Author Share Posted October 5 10 hours ago, MPhillips said: I feel like it's kind of, "cemented" already, but I hear ya... After he won his last worlds he said if it wasn't for him Yazdani would be the best ever, so he's the best ever. Then had all that exploded by turning out to not the best guy in the country at that time. He cemented his legacy as "great" when he won worlds the first time, but I'm pretty sure he wants to have claim to being the best ever to do it. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 35 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: but I'm pretty sure he wants to have claim to being the best ever to do it. 10 hours ago, MPhillips said: but I hear ya... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted October 5 Author Share Posted October 5 12 minutes ago, MPhillips said: guess i just wanted to imply the different layers of "cementing" "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 3 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said: guess i just wanted to imply the different layers of "cementing" @flyingcement 1 1 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandOlm Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 4 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said: After he won his last worlds he said if it wasn't for him Yazdani would be the best ever, so he's the best ever. Then had all that exploded by turning out to not the best guy in the country at that time. He cemented his legacy as "great" when he won worlds the first time, but I'm pretty sure he wants to have claim to being the best ever to do it. Not enough titles and way too many losses to be in the same tier as people like Medved, Saitiev, or Fadzaev. They have double his (or more) medal count. Maybe if he went 4/4 undefeated but no, he has a lot of domestic losses and those count as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHROMEBIRD Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 I feel like there's already a lot of excuses for Sadz before this hypothetical, which diminishes the excitement of the match to an extent... He's old, he hasn't looked like himself lately, he's distracted with Russian military stuff, etc. etc. Don't get me wrong, it'll be an extremely hyped matchup if it happens, just too bad it didn't take place 4 years ago when both guys were firmly atop their respective mountains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted October 5 Author Share Posted October 5 1 hour ago, GrandOlm said: Not enough titles and way too many losses to be in the same tier as people like Medved, Saitiev, or Fadzaev. They have double his (or more) medal count. Maybe if he went 4/4 undefeated but no, he has a lot of domestic losses and those count as well. admittedly he needed a faster start to compare with those guys. I'm just saying that this win would give you enough to piece together some sort of frankenstein argument that he's the GOAT. 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juniorvarsity Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 On 10/5/2024 at 3:44 PM, GrandOlm said: Not enough titles and way too many losses to be in the same tier as people like Medved, Saitiev, or Fadzaev. They have double his (or more) medal count. Maybe if he went 4/4 undefeated but no, he has a lot of domestic losses and those count as well. I think we are evaluating only his career as a USA rep at 86kg. And I think that is a fair way to evaluate it. Burroughs was the P4P best in the world at the time he was keeping Taylor off the team, so maybe that logic implies that Burroughs is the best American of this era, which is my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truzzcat Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 13 minutes ago, juniorvarsity said: I think we are evaluating only his career as a USA rep at 86kg. And I think that is a fair way to evaluate it. Burroughs was the P4P best in the world at the time he was keeping Taylor off the team, so maybe that logic implies that Burroughs is the best American of this era, which is my opinion. Burroughs kept DT,Dake,Ringer,Imar,Howe all off teams until 2021 aside from guys moving up and that alone makes him the american goat imo. Davids's peak was as good or better than anyone's though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted October 9 Author Share Posted October 9 25 minutes ago, Truzzcat said: Burroughs kept DT,Dake,Ringer,Imar,Howe all off teams until 2021 aside from guys moving up and that alone makes him the american goat imo. Davids's peak was as good or better than anyone's though. once you start talking about peak's you're in gable territory. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D3 for LU Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 (edited) Hmmm... Taylor not going IF Sadulaev goes @ 92Kg, doesn't sound like Taylor would do that at all. He'll be there in Albania. (Should be good!) D3 Edited October 9 by D3 for LU Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meZYNbrink Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 He seemed to confirm it in a breakdown of the bracket in a video posted to Twitter. Looked like he was addressing media. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mspart Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 These last two posts have me confused. Is he going or not? It just isn't clear to me. mspart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meZYNbrink Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 1 hour ago, mspart said: These last two posts have me confused. Is he going or not? It just isn't clear to me. mspart Sounds like he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted October 9 Author Share Posted October 9 29 minutes ago, meZYNbrink said: Sounds like he is. The longer it takes the less likely it is that he'll decline. He tacitly accepted by winning the tournament, if he backed out after taking his time with the decision that would show a lot of disrespect for the team. Plus Zahid is probably caught in a snow storm and needs all the time he can get to get out of it and ready for a tournament. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPhillips Posted October 9 Share Posted October 9 14 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: needs all the time he can get to get out of it and ready for a tournament. So what you're saying is, he'll be on weight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldschool Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 this interview def makes it seem like he's going and excited to wrestle sadulaev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobB Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 Is there someone in Russia that sadulaev can never defeat similar to Taylor who can never beat Dake. His record against Dake prevents him from being considered best ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crotalus Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 if he backed out after taking his time with the decision that would show a lot of disrespect for the team.Wouldn't exactly be the first time.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted October 10 Author Share Posted October 10 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Crotalus said: Wouldn't exactly be the first time.... it would for taylor right? then again he did sabotage the team by feeding his spot to pay downey when we could have sent nickal.... Edited October 10 by Hammerlock3 1 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 27 minutes ago, Hammerlock3 said: it would for taylor right? then again he did sabotage the team by feeding his spot to pay downey when we could have sent nickal.... And somehow that was ok with PSU/NLWC coaches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex1fly Posted October 10 Share Posted October 10 Flo interview. Sounds like he’s going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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