JBluegill133 Posted October 1 Posted October 1 Happy October everyone. The weather is cooling down, the kids are back in school, and that means that preseason workouts are well underway, with the season just around the corner. If you are all interested I would love to use this thread to post about 2024 college wrestle offs. Best matchups, dates of competitions, streaming opportunities, results, etc. If there is already an older thread dedicated to this, please forgive me and I can delete this topic immediately. Just trying to stay ahead of the game for the 2024 season! Happy posting, ya'll! 2 3 "Look good, feel good, wrestle good." - J Jaggers
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 1 Posted October 1 26 minutes ago, JBluegill133 said: Happy October everyone. The weather is cooling down, the kids are back in school, and that means that preseason workouts are well underway, with the season just around the corner. If you are all interested I would love to use this thread to post about 2024 college wrestle offs. Best matchups, dates of competitions, streaming opportunities, results, etc. If there is already an older thread dedicated to this, please forgive me and I can delete this topic immediately. Just trying to stay ahead of the game for the 2024 season! Happy posting, ya'll! Great idea 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge
Truzzcat Posted October 1 Posted October 1 I think I am most interested in Cannon vs D'emilio at 149 for ohio state and then Ive heard Tagen is going up so Tagen vs Young for okie state. Also, Facundo vs Kasak vs Sealey and or Facundo vs Haines vs Ryder for PSU.
BigRedFan Posted October 1 Posted October 1 Cornell at 141/149: Vince Cornella (WS#15 @141, 2023 EIWA Champion, 2xNQ, 34-15 record) vs. Ethan Fernandez (WS#14 @149, 1xNQ, 34-14 record) vs Josh Saunders (U23 champion, beat Fernandez last November). Not sure if Saunders will go up or down (or nowhere). 1 1
nhs67 Posted October 1 Posted October 1 7 minutes ago, BigRedFan said: Cornell at 141/149: Vince Cornella (WS#15 @141, 2023 EIWA Champion, 2xNQ, 34-15 record) vs. Ethan Fernandez (WS#14 @149, 1xNQ, 34-14 record) vs Josh Saunders (U23 champion, beat Fernandez last November). Not sure if Saunders will go up or down (or nowhere). Always been a big fan of Saunders. I was really hoping he would get in to the lineup. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
nhs67 Posted October 1 Posted October 1 Per Flo, Iowa State has some interesting ones... 133 - Frost VS Terukina 141 - Frost VS Redding 149 - Echemendia VS Johnson (loser goes up) 165 - Euton VS Gaitan 174 - Riggins VS Naaktgeboren https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/12866566-2024-25-iowa-state-wrestling-roster-and-depth-chart Depth Chart - Per the above link: 125 Pounds Osmany Diversent, FR Adrian Meza, FR Garrett Grice, SO Ethan Perryman, SO 133 Pounds Evan Frost, SO (6th) Kysen Terukina, SR (NQ-NQ-NQ) Blake Gioimo, FR Canon Acklin, FR 141 Pounds Jacob Frost, SO Zach Redding, JR Sam Hrabovsky, JR 149 Pounds Anthony Echemendia, JR (5th) Paniro Johnson, SO (NQ) Carter Fousek, SO Casey Swiderski, JR (7th-NQ) — likely redshirting 157 Pounds Cody Chittum, SO (NQ) Christian Stanek, SO Tucker Stangel, FR Kane Naaktgeboren, FR Logan Stotts, FR 165 Pounds Connor Euton, SO MJ Gaitan, SO (NQ) Manuel Rojas, SO Gabe Carver, FR 174 Pounds Aiden Riggins, SO Tate Naaktgeboren, FR Cade Schmidt, SR Owen Hegleson, FR 184 Pounds Evan Bockman, SR (NQ-NQ-NQ) Caleb Helgeson, SO Fernando Villaescusa, SO Colby Runner, FR Cole Carlucci, SO 197 Pounds Christian Carroll, FR Sawyer Bartelt, FR McCrae Hagarty, FR Rowan Udell, SO Jacob Cates, SO Nate Schon, SO 285 Pounds Yonger Bastida, SR (NQ-NQ-5th) Daniel Herrera, FR CJ Carter, SO Xavier Bruening, SO "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
lisa morales Posted October 1 Posted October 1 Traditional wrestle-offs went away years ago. Coaches defer final lineup decisions for months.
Winners Circle Posted October 1 Posted October 1 1 hour ago, lisa morales said: Traditional wrestle-offs went away years ago. Coaches defer final lineup decisions for months. Yea I think most of us on this forum know this. But thank you. 2 1
nhs67 Posted October 1 Posted October 1 1 hour ago, lisa morales said: Traditional wrestle-offs went away years ago. Coaches defer final lineup decisions for months. It appears that Iowa State has actual wrestleoffs, still. Last year Echemendia defeated Swiderski, and Echemendia got the nod at 149lbs until he dropped to 141lbs. This year, they have said there are wrestleoffs at several weights. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
poke1 Posted October 1 Posted October 1 I'm interested to see what's going to happen with Oklahoma state's Cael Hughes? As an undefeated High School wrestler, I would sure think it hurts Okie State to not have him in the lineup somewhere!
Idaho Posted October 1 Posted October 1 24 minutes ago, nhs67 said: It appears that Iowa State has actual wrestleoffs, still. Last year Echemendia defeated Swiderski, and Echemendia got the nod at 149lbs until he dropped to 141lbs. This year, they have said there are wrestleoffs at several weights. Lots of schools still have wrestle-offs and they are one factor, not necessarily THE factor, in determining starters. Some schools make up a wrestle-off at the end of a season in order to get a person close to them (that can't make weight all year) into the starting lineup without even looking at the full body of work. Just sayin. 1 Sponsored by INTERMAT
RandolphTJones Posted October 1 Posted October 1 Ohio State usually makes the wrestle-offs a big event; streaming and opening it up to the public. I'd imagine an announcement from staff/social media should be coming soon. 1
MPhillips Posted October 1 Posted October 1 13 minutes ago, RandolphTJones said: Ohio State usually makes the wrestle-offs a big event; streaming and opening it up to the public. And in the past only an event.... .
Hammerlock3 Posted October 1 Posted October 1 3 hours ago, BigRedFan said: Cornell at 141/149: Vince Cornella (WS#15 @141, 2023 EIWA Champion, 2xNQ, 34-15 record) vs. Ethan Fernandez (WS#14 @149, 1xNQ, 34-14 record) vs Josh Saunders (U23 champion, beat Fernandez last November). Not sure if Saunders will go up or down (or nowhere). Intriguing, Cornella seems like he had all the tools to be a top 5 type guy, but mentally didn't seem to put it together. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity."
charmon55 Posted October 1 Posted October 1 OK State potential matchups: 133: Hughes vs. Witcraft/McComas 141: Tagen vs. Hughes 149: Tagen vs. Young 157: Travis v. Fish 197: Surber vs. Merrill All of these really depend on who redshirts and what weight guys intend to go. I wouldn't be surprised if Travis goes down to 149 and challenges.
nhs67 Posted October 1 Posted October 1 1 hour ago, charmon55 said: OK State potential matchups: 133: Hughes vs. Witcraft/McComas 141: Tagen vs. Hughes 149: Tagen vs. Young 157: Travis v. Fish 197: Surber vs. Merrill All of these really depend on who redshirts and what weight guys intend to go. I wouldn't be surprised if Travis goes down to 149 and challenges. My take: 133 - Witcraft VS McComas 141 - Hughes, Young or Jamison could go down if they lose the wrestleoff up at 149 149 - Jamison VS Young 157 - Fish VS Teague (If Fish loses, he Redshirts), Young could go up if he loses to Jamison 197 - Surber VS Merrill (Merrill could redshirt, if he loses) 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
ionel Posted October 1 Posted October 1 3 minutes ago, nhs67 said: My take: 133 - Witcraft VS McComas 141 - Hughes, Young or Jamison could go down if they lose the wrestleoff up at 149 149 - Jamison VS Young 157 - Fish VS Teague (If Fish loses, he Redshirts), Young could go up if he loses to Jamison 197 - Surber VS Merrill (Merrill could redshirt, if he loses) No way Young can go down to 141, I say "turdbiscuits!" 1 .
Gus Posted October 1 Posted October 1 9 minutes ago, nhs67 said: My take: 133 - Witcraft VS McComas 141 - Hughes, Young or Jamison could go down if they lose the wrestleoff up at 149 149 - Jamison VS Young 157 - Fish VS Teague (If Fish loses, he Redshirts), Young could go up if he loses to Jamison 197 - Surber VS Merrill (Merrill could redshirt, if he loses) Give me Witcraft, Hughes, Jamison, Fish, Merrill. 1
nhs67 Posted October 1 Posted October 1 10 minutes ago, Gus said: Give me Witcraft, Hughes, Jamison, Fish, Merrill. I have a hard time disagreeing to this. The lone exception is that Young might beat a depleted Fish at 157lbs (he hasn't been 157 or lower since his Soph season in High School. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
Gus Posted October 1 Posted October 1 10 minutes ago, nhs67 said: I have a hard time disagreeing to this. The lone exception is that Young might beat a depleted Fish at 157lbs (he hasn't been 157 or lower since his Soph season in High School. If Young has actually grown into the weight then he could be a problem for Fish. He has a lot of nice career wins but all at 141 with the exception of a couple decent wins at 149 last year.
Truzzcat Posted October 1 Posted October 1 9 hours ago, nhs67 said: Per Flo, Iowa State has some interesting ones... 133 - Frost VS Terukina 141 - Frost VS Redding 149 - Echemendia VS Johnson (loser goes up) 165 - Euton VS Gaitan 174 - Riggins VS Naaktgeboren https://www.flowrestling.org/articles/12866566-2024-25-iowa-state-wrestling-roster-and-depth-chart Depth Chart - Per the above link: 125 Pounds Osmany Diversent, FR Adrian Meza, FR Garrett Grice, SO Ethan Perryman, SO 133 Pounds Evan Frost, SO (6th) Kysen Terukina, SR (NQ-NQ-NQ) Blake Gioimo, FR Canon Acklin, FR 141 Pounds Jacob Frost, SO Zach Redding, JR Sam Hrabovsky, JR 149 Pounds Anthony Echemendia, JR (5th) Paniro Johnson, SO (NQ) Carter Fousek, SO Casey Swiderski, JR (7th-NQ) — likely redshirting 157 Pounds Cody Chittum, SO (NQ) Christian Stanek, SO Tucker Stangel, FR Kane Naaktgeboren, FR Logan Stotts, FR 165 Pounds Connor Euton, SO MJ Gaitan, SO (NQ) Manuel Rojas, SO Gabe Carver, FR 174 Pounds Aiden Riggins, SO Tate Naaktgeboren, FR Cade Schmidt, SR Owen Hegleson, FR 184 Pounds Evan Bockman, SR (NQ-NQ-NQ) Caleb Helgeson, SO Fernando Villaescusa, SO Colby Runner, FR Cole Carlucci, SO 197 Pounds Christian Carroll, FR Sawyer Bartelt, FR McCrae Hagarty, FR Rowan Udell, SO Jacob Cates, SO Nate Schon, SO 285 Pounds Yonger Bastida, SR (NQ-NQ-5th) Daniel Herrera, FR CJ Carter, SO Xavier Bruening, SO Their best lineup would be Ech murdering himself for one more year, Paniro going 149 and chittum or casey going 157 I think that team could contend for a trophy.
nhs67 Posted October 1 Posted October 1 2 hours ago, Truzzcat said: Their best lineup would be Ech murdering himself for one more year, Paniro going 149 and chittum or casey going 157 I think that team could contend I have a hard time seeing Swiderski happy sitting on the sidelines. "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me
poke1 Posted October 2 Posted October 2 18 hours ago, Gus said: Give me Witcraft, Hughes, Jamison, Fish, Merrill. I don't love this scenario, Witcraft would be the weakest link in the starting lineup. I have always thought of him as just a fill in guy (average at best). I wish Hughes was able to make 133, so that there would be less "jockying for position" in the 141 and 149 weight classes. I would love to know how J.J. McComas does against Witcraft in the wrestling room?
Gus Posted October 2 Posted October 2 34 minutes ago, poke1 said: I don't love this scenario, Witcraft would be the weakest link in the starting lineup. I have always thought of him as just a fill in guy (average at best). I wish Hughes was able to make 133, so that there would be less "jockying for position" in the 141 and 149 weight classes. I would love to know how J.J. McComas does against Witcraft in the wrestling room? I would not be surprised to hear of McComas competing with Witcraft and possibly even beating him right now but I think he could benefit from a redshirt. Cael Hughes is a huge recruit for the Cowboys. In my opinion it is more important to get Hughes at his ideal weight. 1
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