CowboyYe2024 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 This will actually happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 when "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 I don't know that this needs to happen, though. Unless Sasso is lights out what he was before, jumping two weights and going against Mesenbrink is just a health hazard waiting to happen. 1 1 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interviewed_at_Weehawken Posted September 24 Share Posted September 24 2 minutes ago, nhs67 said: I don't know that this needs to happen, though. Unless Sasso is lights out what he was before, jumping two weights and going against Mesenbrink is just a health hazard waiting to happen. Although, I think MM did get cradled at least once last year, maybe even in a match that he won by tech? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winners Circle Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 Is Mesenbrick of relation to Gable Stevenson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ionel Posted September 25 Share Posted September 25 9 minutes ago, Winners Circle said: Is Mesenbrick of relation to Gable Stevenson? No but Mitch Messenbrink is. 1 BPE 10/14/24 IWB's SC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treep2000 Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 Banking on Sasso to be as successful as he had been is a big stretch. Up 2 weights (weight classes do matter), and surviving a serious gunshot would to his core (which his style relies upon immensely). I wish him the best and would love to see the Cinderella story of the comeback, but it's a LOT to overcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truzzcat Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 I do not think this is a close match personally. I do think if sammy is at his best there could be some fun positions to watch though. I remember nico ruiz I believe cradling Messenbrink at the black knight and then hepner locked up two I believe in the dual but did not get a turn. Sammy probably has the best crack down corner sit cradle I have ever seen so I would love to see that position play out especially if we are getting to see big Hoss Sammy. Being realistic it's hard to imagine Sammy being back to 100% I would love if he is but even at that even though I think 70kg was his optimal weight thats still 11lbs down from 165. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandolphTJones Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 Big Sasso guy but MM will prove too much on their feet. He's only getting better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fletcher Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 Tough not to be a Sasso fan this year. It could be a hell of a cinderella story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyYe2024 Posted September 26 Author Share Posted September 26 2 hours ago, Fletcher said: Tough not to be a Sasso fan this year. It could be a hell of a cinderella story. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted September 26 Share Posted September 26 I would predict Mesenbrink by MD even if Sasso was 100%. Sasso’s game worked great at 149 because he was absolutely huge for the weight. He was taller and longer than everyone he wrestled. He won’t have that advantage over Mesenbrink. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLB9 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 Yeah, I’d be shocked if this happened and went seven minutes. Huge Sasso fan though, what an inspiration. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 I think sasso is sort of modest in term of talent. He does everything pretty well, but thats not how you win NCAAs... "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le duke Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 12 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said: I think sasso is sort of modest in term of talent. He does everything pretty well, but thats not how you win NCAAs... I don't think Sasso is capable of generating enough of his own offense to beat Mesenbrink. Sure, he might be able to beat him in a scramble off of MM's shot. He might lock up a cradle, and might be able to deck him. But unless he's able to score early and build up several minutes of riding time, Mesenbrink will run him down. If MM scores first, game over, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted September 27 Share Posted September 27 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Le duke said: I don't think Sasso is capable of generating enough of his own offense to beat Mesenbrink. Sure, he might be able to beat him in a scramble off of MM's shot. He might lock up a cradle, and might be able to deck him. But unless he's able to score early and build up several minutes of riding time, Mesenbrink will run him down. If MM scores first, game over, in my opinion. he's not gonna build a lead on him or cradle him, and riding him up to weights is not gonna happen either. Some people cut weight cause they have to. Edited September 27 by Hammerlock3 "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winners Circle Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 Kind of surprised by the amount of disrespect Sasso is getting here, being a 2x finalist/4x AA. Do I think he beats MM? Absolutely not. But y'all are acting like the dude is JV and that is wild to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerlock3 Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 11 minutes ago, Winners Circle said: Kind of surprised by the amount of disrespect Sasso is getting here, being a 2x finalist/4x AA. Do I think he beats MM? Absolutely not. But y'all are acting like the dude is JV and that is wild to me. has he ever wowed you in a match? MM has wowed me, its a hard commodity to replace. "Half measures are a coward's form of insanity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 31 minutes ago, Winners Circle said: Kind of surprised by the amount of disrespect Sasso is getting here, being a 2x finalist/4x AA. Do I think he beats MM? Absolutely not. But y'all are acting like the dude is JV and that is wild to me. Earlier this year, January to be more precise, he said himself (Sasso) in several interviews that one of his legs likely had permanent damage and that his mobility was shot in it (as well as his back. He also said he was actually having trouble keeping weight on (getting down to the mid 130s while in the hospital). For a guy who last wrestled a defensive style at 149lbs, all those things are very bad for someone going 165lbs for the first time. Especially for a guy who wasn't tall for 149lbs. One could wager that expecting him to be at the same form he was when he last took the mat competitively in Folkstyle makes much less sense than being pensive or cautious with optimisms. Especially up two weight classes. Not all of us expect him to contend. Ergo we will not be disappointed when (if) he doesn't win it all. We are all actively rooting for him, though, and will celebrate whatever performances we get from him. 3 "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 Are we ignoring the size difference? Didn't Sasso wrestle 141 and Messenbrink 165? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nhs67 Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 6 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: Are we ignoring the size difference? Didn't Sasso wrestle 141 and Messenbrink 165? You know for a fact he was 149lbs every year he competed at NCAAs. You're being purposely misleading. In any case, Monster Mesebrink was a small 165lber and Sasso was set to go 157 last year before his gunshot wounds prevented that. The size difference shouldn't actually be that bad "I know actually nothing. It isn't even conjecture at this point." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul158 Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 On 9/26/2024 at 9:52 AM, Fletcher said: Tough not to be a Sasso fan this year. It could be a hell of a cinderella story. His comeback story could be one for the books. I'll be rooting for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Cinnabon Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 27 minutes ago, nhs67 said: You know for a fact he was 149lbs every year he competed at NCAAs. You're being purposely misleading. In any case, Monster Mesebrink was a small 165lber and Sasso was set to go 157 last year before his gunshot wounds prevented that. The size difference shouldn't actually be that bad He wrestled Bartlett several times....who was always 141, no? Did he bump up for the post season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 1 hour ago, nhs67 said: Earlier this year, January to be more precise, he said himself (Sasso) in several interviews that one of his legs likely had permanent damage and that his mobility was shot in it (as well as his back. He also said he was actually having trouble keeping weight on (getting down to the mid 130s while in the hospital). For a guy who last wrestled a defensive style at 149lbs, all those things are very bad for someone going 165lbs for the first time. Especially for a guy who wasn't tall for 149lbs. One could wager that expecting him to be at the same form he was when he last took the mat competitively in Folkstyle makes much less sense than being pensive or cautious with optimisms. Especially up two weight classes. Not all of us expect him to contend. Ergo we will not be disappointed when (if) he doesn't win it all. We are all actively rooting for him, though, and will celebrate whatever performances we get from him. This. No one has seen how he moves post life threatening gunshot wound. Sasso returning to the mat is still in doubt, never mind contending two weight classes up. Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrestleknownothing Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 2 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said: He wrestled Bartlett several times....who was always 141, no? Did he bump up for the post season? So you are not a PSU fan 1 Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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