Depth of NCAA Weights

[stealyphil223]

The disparity of depth of weight classes this year in the NCAA is insane.  

Deep Weights 

165 

197

133

285

 

Not Deep 

157

125

141

 

[MPhillips]

I wouldn't say 125 is shallow though...

[Gus]

  On 12/23/2022 at 4:08 PM, stealyphil223 said:

The disparity of depth of weight classes this year in the NCAA is insane.  

Deep Weights 

165 

197

133

285

 

Not Deep 

157

125

141

 

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I know I am in the minority here but I think that 157 is pretty tough weight class. Will Lewan, Ed Scott and Brayton Lee are ranked outside of the top 8 right now. 

[stealyphil223]

  On 12/23/2022 at 4:53 PM, MPhillips said:

I wouldn't say 125 is shallow though...

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Killian Cardinale, Malik Heinselman, Liam Cronin, Joey Prata in the top 11.....

[MPhillips]

  On 12/23/2022 at 7:54 PM, stealyphil223 said:

Killian Cardinale, Malik Heinselman, Liam Cronin, Joey Prata in the top 11.....

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I hear ya. The top ten (wrestlestat) guys only have twelve losses. I didn't suggest it was a great weight class, just that it wasn't shallow.

[Perry]

149 is looking very interesting and deep this season. Will anyone challenge O'Toole at 165 this season? Deep weight, but he just looks so hard to score on. 

[Wrestleknownothing]

  On 12/23/2022 at 8:58 PM, Perry said:

149 is looking very interesting and deep this season. Will anyone challenge O'Toole at 165 this season? Deep weight, but he just looks so hard to score on. 

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So what changed about 149 this year? Wasn't the consensus last year that 149 was one of the weakest weights, Yianni excepted?

[MPhillips]

  On 12/23/2022 at 9:22 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

So what changed about 149 this year? Wasn't the consensus last year that 149 was one of the weakest weights, Yianni excepted?

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Paniro is the only thing I see. Besides Yianni, Gomez and Sasso losing and Henson and Milner with 12+ wins...

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

  On 12/23/2022 at 8:58 PM, Perry said:

149 is looking very interesting and deep this season. Will anyone challenge O'Toole at 165 this season? Deep weight, but he just looks so hard to score on. 

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O'Toole has already been challenged

[ionel]

  On 12/23/2022 at 7:50 PM, Gus said:

I know I am in the minority here but I think that 157 is pretty tough weight class. Will Lewan, Ed Scott and Brayton Lee are ranked outside of the top 8 right now. 

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Gfeller ... he beat B Lee ... he's been around for every si he's got that "old man strength." 

[Husker_Du]

i think 125 is pretty bad. 141 as well. 

125 does have a lot of former AA's. but their consistency leaves a lot to be desired. 

141 has 3 former AA's, but they were 5/6/7 and don't exactly light the world on fire. 

[ionel]

  On 12/24/2022 at 2:24 AM, Husker_Du said:

i think 125 is pretty bad. 141 as well. 

125 does have a lot of former AA's. but their consistency leaves a lot to be desired. 

141 has 3 former AA's, but they were 5/6/7 and don't exactly light the world on fire. 

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Round and round we're going down
We can't just leave it up to the youth

[creek chub]

  On 12/23/2022 at 10:45 PM, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

O'Toole has already been challenged

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Yes sir. Brady took him down with a solid hi-c and kept the match close. Hall’s match was even closer. 

[flyingcement]

165 has three returning champions which is pretty cool.

I feel that while it is not the strongest, 197 could be the most unpredictable 

[creek chub]

  On 12/23/2022 at 7:54 PM, stealyphil223 said:

Killian Cardinale, Malik Heinselman, Liam Cronin, Joey Prata in the top 11.....

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I hope Prata gets on the podium. He’s a true team guy and battled some pretty tough injuries. I hated to see him transfer to Oklahoma 

[Gus]

  On 12/24/2022 at 2:38 AM, creek chub said:

I hope Prata gets on the podium. He’s a true team guy and battled some pretty tough injuries. I hated to see him transfer to Oklahoma 

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He looked great in the bedlam match. 

[WrestlingFan89]

  On 12/24/2022 at 2:24 AM, Husker_Du said:

i think 125 is pretty bad. 141 as well. 

125 does have a lot of former AA's. but their consistency leaves a lot to be desired. 

141 has 3 former AA's, but they were 5/6/7 and don't exactly light the world on fire. 

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141 has 4, Carlson was AA in ‘21.

[bnwtwg]

  On 12/23/2022 at 7:50 PM, Gus said:

I know I am in the minority here but I think that 157 is pretty tough weight class. Will Lewan, Ed Scott and Brayton Lee are ranked outside of the top 8 right now. 

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Ed Scott is a mf’n hammer to be reckoned with

[Gus]

  On 12/24/2022 at 3:40 AM, WrestlingFan89 said:

141 has 4, Carlson was AA in ‘21.

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I know this an overly simplified way to look at things but if 141 was easy and 133 and 149 were hard…. Wouldn’t guys be flocking from 133 and 149 to 141? It’s 8 pounds up or down 

[ionel]

  On 12/24/2022 at 4:07 AM, Gus said:

I know this an overly simplified way to look at things but if 141 was easy and 133 and 149 were hard…. Wouldn’t guys be flocking from 133 and 149 to 141? It’s 8 pounds up or down 

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thats why someone has to control the flock and gets paid the big bucks

[Husker_Du]

if you think 141 is tough then who am i to tell you differently.

but imo i think it's one of the worst weights in quite a while. i'm not gonna do the work, but i think you'd have a hard time finding a weight class where the top returner was 5th. and to add to that, there isn't depth. who do we think is elite here? 

[Gus]

  On 12/24/2022 at 4:20 AM, Husker_Du said:

if you think 141 is tough then who am i to tell you differently.

but imo i think it's one of the worst weights in quite a while. i'm not gonna do the work, but i think you'd have a hard time finding a weight class where the top returner was 5th. and to add to that, there isn't depth. who do we think is elite here? 

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I agree with you more than disagree but am just surprised that guys didn’t move in to try to win a national championship. Fix always looks large at 133 and he would be the front runner at 141 presumably. I do think that the top 3 or 4 at 141 are very solid wrestlers but wouldn’t consider any elite. Swiderski could be elite eventually but isn’t there yet. 

[jajensen09]

  On 12/24/2022 at 3:47 AM, bnwtwg said:

Ed Scott is a mf’n hammer to be reckoned with

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He's alright.... compared to peyton Robb 

[1032004]

  On 12/23/2022 at 9:22 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

So what changed about 149 this year? Wasn't the consensus last year that 149 was one of the weakest weights, Yianni excepted?

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Gomez beating Yianni

Freshmen Paniro and Caleb Henson

Mauller coming off redshirt

[MPhillips]

  On 12/23/2022 at 9:27 PM, MPhillips said:

Paniro is the only thing I see. Besides Yianni, Gomez and Sasso losing and Henson and Milner with 12+ wins...

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  On 12/24/2022 at 1:36 PM, 1032004 said:

Gomez beating Yianni

Freshmen Paniro and Caleb Henson

Mauller coming off redshirt

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I believe we have it covered now @Wrestleknownothing. What do you think?