PSU at Iowa match commentary

[VakAttack]

Any way, as predicted, not a ton of fun in general (for me; I'm sure the PSU fans are loving it).  Some tough wrestling from Ayala (btw, WTF did Davis do to his face), Rathjen, Caliendo, Kennedy, Riggins, and Glazier.  Horseshoes and hand-grenades, though. Ass whooping.

Edited February 10, 2024 by VakAttack

[pokemonster]

Time for Anthony Cassar's documentary: how being juiced prevails 

[ionel]

  On 2/10/2024 at 4:21 AM, macwoodfleet said:

Did they turn the crowd mic’s off? I couldn’t hear any crowd noise the last hour 

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Everyone gets ice-cream at the break, their tongues are frozen 2nd half. 

[MNRodent]

Oh good, more Penn State media coverage.

[Grecojones]

Did the Ayala knee remind anyone of the RBY arm behind the back?

[Le duke]

  On 2/10/2024 at 4:28 AM, Grecojones said:

Did the Ayala knee remind anyone of the RBY arm behind the back?

Looks ripe for a JB-style blast double to the sternum or face.


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[Grecojones]

  On 2/10/2024 at 4:29 AM, Le duke said:

Looks ripe for a JB-style blast double to the sternum or face.


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Missed mid match adjustment opportunity. 

[swoopdown]

  On 2/10/2024 at 4:28 AM, Grecojones said:

Did the Ayala knee remind anyone of the RBY arm behind the back?

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In a way - except RBY could get TDs with his arm behind his back.  There is that inconvenient truth thing that is problematic for equivalency.

[VakAttack]

  On 2/10/2024 at 4:29 AM, Le duke said:

Looks ripe for a JB-style blast double to the sternum or face.


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Looked like Davis got plenty of shots at Ayala's face.

[SocraTease]

  On 2/10/2024 at 4:28 AM, Grecojones said:

Did the Ayala knee remind anyone of the RBY arm behind the back?

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Yes, but I thought it was a form of avoiding wrestling, i.e., stalling

[VakAttack]

  On 2/10/2024 at 4:32 AM, swoopdown said:

In a way - except RBY could get TDs with his arm behind his back.  There is that inconvenient truth thing that is problematic for equivalency.

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Did Ayala not get a TD?  How'd he get so many points? 

[Grecojones]

  On 2/10/2024 at 4:32 AM, swoopdown said:

In a way - except RBY could get TDs with his arm behind his back.  There is that inconvenient truth thing that is problematic for equivalency.

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Hey man. I was calling for the stall as loudly as anyone else. The rematch will be fun!

[swoopdown]

  On 2/10/2024 at 4:33 AM, VakAttack said:

Did Ayala not get a TD?  How'd he get so many points? 

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how many from three point stance?   Seriously, I listened to this match on the radio and haven't seen it yet.  If he got one I'll concede equivalency (this match only)

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[VakAttack]

  On 2/10/2024 at 4:36 AM, swoopdown said:

how many from three point stance?  

 

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I dunno?  More than Davis who just kept hitting him in the head and face and didn't particularly try to take a shot.

Edited February 10, 2024 by VakAttack

[swoopdown]

Stalling on Vak - we are discussing the equivalency of the three point stance not Davis's lack of shots or clubbing.  Deflection is a good tool for a lawyer though. 

maybe there would have been more shots by Ayala and Davis without the three point?  It was a winning strategy.  I don't fault Ayala for using it.  It was smart.  Not a personal preference but smart.

[Pish]

  On 2/10/2024 at 3:31 AM, VakAttack said:

I don't know what you can do about it, but that defense where Mesenbrink puts his own knee in danger.  I think, judging by how that whole match played out, Caliendo could win a rematch.  I think guys are freaked out by the pace, but Caliendo didn't melt and was attacking in the third.  Not saying I'd predict it.

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LOL

[VakAttack]

  On 2/10/2024 at 4:44 AM, swoopdown said:

Stalling on Vak - we are discussing the equivalency of the three point stance not Davis's lack of shots or clubbing.  Deflection is a good tool for a lawyer though. 

maybe there would have been more shots by Ayala and Davis without the three point?  It was a winning strategy.  I don't fault Ayala for using it.  It was smart.  Not a personal preference but smart.

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Except RBY wasn't shooting with one arm behind his back.  He was keeping his arm away from Desanto until he was ready to shoot.

[VakAttack]

  On 2/10/2024 at 4:46 AM, Pish said:

LOL

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Good point. 

[Pish]

  On 2/10/2024 at 4:48 AM, VakAttack said:

Good point. 

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My LOL was you saying you can see Caliendo winning a rematch??  Are you joking?  He’s lucky he didn’t get majored and I would predict that or worse next time they wrestle. 
 

not sure what the hell you watched to pick Caliendo in a rematch 

[PortaJohn]

  On 2/10/2024 at 4:48 AM, VakAttack said:

Good point. 

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The gap is only going to grow between those two.  

[VakAttack]

  On 2/10/2024 at 4:51 AM, PortaJohn said:

The gap is only going to grow between those two.  

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Certainly possible. Mesenbrink is great.  I think it's more likely to narrow as people feel his pace.  Like I said, Caliendo was still attacking late.  We'll see. 

[Antitroll2828]

After watching this Cassar documentary I’m convinced more than ever that Robert Howard will hang around the program for years then in 3-4 years is going to defeat Bo Bassett for an ncaa title in his only season as a starter 

[Gus]

  On 2/10/2024 at 4:51 AM, Pish said:

My LOL was you saying you can see Caliendo winning a rematch??  Are you joking?  He’s lucky he didn’t get majored and I would predict that or worse next time they wrestle. 
 

not sure what the hell you watched to pick Caliendo in a rematch 

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The Mesenbrink “break my leg defense” on a single leg is akin to the Peyton Hall defense. They put themselves in a danger position to get a restart. Red should just let it play out if they put themselves in that position. 

[VakAttack]

  On 2/10/2024 at 4:51 AM, Pish said:

My LOL was you saying you can see Caliendo winning a rematch??  Are you joking?  He’s lucky he didn’t get majored and I would predict that or worse next time they wrestle. 
 

not sure what the hell you watched to pick Caliendo in a rematch 

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I literally said in the post you quoted that I was not saying I would predict it.  I think guys are freaked out before the match because of the pace.  Now that he's felt it and didn't melt, he'll feel more comfortable.  Similar thing happened with Desanto.

[swoopdown]

  On 2/10/2024 at 4:38 AM, VakAttack said:

I dunno?  More than Davis who just kept hitting him in the head and face and didn't particularly try to take a shot.

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  On 2/10/2024 at 4:47 AM, VakAttack said:

Except RBY wasn't shooting with one arm behind his back.  He was keeping his arm away from Desanto until he was ready to shoot.

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RBY was quick enough to shoot a low single from an arm back, no tie position.   If he never did it I'd be surprised.  Regardless it was within the rules and the smart thing to do.