Way too early Hodge Watch

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Who is leading the Hodge race so far?

Throwing some names out there:

Crooham

Fix

Ragusin

Woods

O'Toole

Stallroci

Brooks

[Fred]

The Penn state guys should be out of consideration based on strength of schedule… their team dodges top competition for the first half of season 

[Wrestleknownothing]

15 minutes ago, Fred said:

The Penn state guys should be out of consideration based on strength of schedule… their team dodges top competition for the first half of season 

yawn

[Le duke]

The Penn state guys should be out of consideration based on strength of schedule… their team dodges top competition for the first half of season 

Brooks, Starocci and Kerk all wrestled and soundly beat the #2 guys in the country.


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[Fred]

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Edited January 29 by Fred
Yawn

[D3 for LU]

AND... according to most here on these forums, it's NEVER too late to pay your debts.

(Isn't that Right, synabon?!? )

D3

Edited January 29 by D3 for LU

[Fred]

1 hour ago, Le duke said:

 

Brooks, Starocci and Kerk all wrestled and soundly beat the #2 guys in the country.


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… in exhibition matches (“friendlies”) that don’t count 

[SocraTease]

Flo's rankings from Jan. 10.  Olejnik has lost since then

 

RANK	NAME	SCHOOL	WEIGHT	YEAR	RECORD	PINS	BONUS RATE	DOMINANCE SCORE
1	Carter Starocci	Penn State	174	SR	6-0	4	100%	5.16
2	Aaron Brooks	Penn State	197	SR	6-0	3	100%	5.33
3	Keegan O'Toole	Missouri	165	JR	10-0	4	90%	5
4	Greg Kerkvliet	Penn State	285	SR	6-0	0	83%	4.16
5	Trent Hidlay	NC State	197	SR	16-0	4	87%	4.87
6	Parker Keckeisen	UNI	184	JR	16-0	2	75%	4.37
7	Ryan Crookham	Lehigh	133	FR	10-0	1	70%	4.1
8	Ridge Lovett	Nebraska	149	JR	14-0	3	64%	4.28
9	Izzak Olejnik	Oklahoma State	165	SR	15-0	4	53%	4.2
10	Yonger Bastida	Iowa State	285	SR	14-0	0	64%	4.07
11	Beau Bartlett	Penn State	141	SR	9-0	4	66%	4.55
12	Levi Haines	Penn State	157	SO	6-0	2	66%	4.5
13	Real Woods	Iowa	141	SR	9-0	0	55%	4.11
14	Daton Fix	Oklahoma State	133	SR	3-0	0	66%	4.33
15	Austin Gomez	Michigan	149	SR	1-0	0	0%	3

[Le duke]

… in exhibition matches (“friendlies”) that don’t count 

You think people are going to forget they happened? Seriously?


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[Ohio Elite]

3 minutes ago, Le duke said:

You think people are going to forget they happened? Seriously?


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Forget what?

[Fred]

4 minutes ago, Le duke said:

You think people are going to forget they happened? Seriously?


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You think guys bring their best in an exhibition match? Seriously?

[Wrestleknownothing]

2 minutes ago, Fred said:

You think guys bring their best in an exhibition match? Seriously?

Come on. Now you are just being silly to be silly. Take the L and move on

[Fred]

42 minutes ago, SocraTease said:

Flo's rankings from Jan. 10.  Olejnik has lost since then

 

RANK	NAME	SCHOOL	WEIGHT	YEAR	RECORD	PINS	BONUS RATE	DOMINANCE SCORE
1	Carter Starocci	Penn State	174	SR	6-0	4	100%	5.16
2	Aaron Brooks	Penn State	197	SR	6-0	3	100%	5.33
3	Keegan O'Toole	Missouri	165	JR	10-0	4	90%	5
4	Greg Kerkvliet	Penn State	285	SR	6-0	0	83%	4.16
5	Trent Hidlay	NC State	197	SR	16-0	4	87%	4.87
6	Parker Keckeisen	UNI	184	JR	16-0	2	75%	4.37
7	Ryan Crookham	Lehigh	133	FR	10-0	1	70%	4.1
8	Ridge Lovett	Nebraska	149	JR	14-0	3	64%	4.28
9	Izzak Olejnik	Oklahoma State	165	SR	15-0	4	53%	4.2
10	Yonger Bastida	Iowa State	285	SR	14-0	0	64%	4.07
11	Beau Bartlett	Penn State	141	SR	9-0	4	66%	4.55
12	Levi Haines	Penn State	157	SO	6-0	2	66%	4.5
13	Real Woods	Iowa	141	SR	9-0	0	55%	4.11
14	Daton Fix	Oklahoma State	133	SR	3-0	0	66%	4.33
15	Austin Gomez	Michigan	149	SR	1-0	0	0%	3

O’toole should be at the top. He just majored Ramirez and his only matches that weren’t bonus were against other top ten guys. 

[Fred]

36 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Come on. Now you are just being silly to be silly. Take the L and move on

It’s silly to think otherwise. Agree to disagree 

[AgaveMaria]

3 hours ago, Fred said:

It’s silly to think otherwise. Agree to disagree 

Doesn't mean we have to agree with disagreeable posters.

[ionel]

6 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Who is leading the Hodge race so far?

Throwing some names out there:

Crooham

Fix

Ragusin

Woods

O'Toole

Stallroci

Brooks

Crooham in his entire career will never win the Hodge, I can fly guarantee it! 

[Bigbrog]

Starocciri...easily wins the hodge

[headshuck]

I love a good Starchurro.

[TylerDurden]

This feels like a Brooks/Starocci co-Hodge sort of year. 

KOT is the only other guy I think has a shot. 165 is insane and he's killing people. If he does something crazy vs. Carr, all bets are off and you can expect Starocci to Xweet something indignant in reply to the Hodge announcement. 

[Pinnacle]

2 hours ago, TylerDurden said:

This feels like a Brooks/Starocci co-Hodge sort of year. 

KOT is the only other guy I think has a shot. 165 is insane and he's killing people. If he does something crazy vs. Carr, all bets are off and you can expect Starocci to Xweet something indignant in reply to the Hodge announcement. 

Carter would tweet something, but probably be happy to face him at Oly Trials.

[Truzzcat]

2 hours ago, Pinnacle said:

Carter would tweet something, but probably be happy to face him at Oly Trials.

im still very interested to see if carter can make 163 and if he can how he performs at that weight especially in a multi weigh in setting.

[Gantry]

6 hours ago, TylerDurden said:

This feels like a Brooks/Starocci co-Hodge sort of year. 

KOT is the only other guy I think has a shot. 165 is insane and he's killing people.

KOT just had a nailbiter with Peyton Hall

Edited January 30 by Gantry

[peanut]

Top contenders at this point in the season are (in no particular order):

• KOT (85% bonus)
• Brooks (100% bonus)
• Starocci (88% bonus)
• Fix (88% bonus)
• Hendrickson (88% bonus)
• Hidlay (88% bonus)
• Keckeisen (83% bonus)

Edited January 30 by peanut

[bnwtwg]

KOT isn't even guaranteed to make the finals much less win the whole thing. Don't forget that even though he won when it mattered most, he dropped two matches to Carr last year including getting pinned at Big 12s. Anyone who has Carr above KOT has a very sound argument to do so. It's not like this is a weak bracket like 125 this year or 197 the past couple years, at 165 these are two elite level NCAA *champions and three age-group world champions. Someone's going down Friday night and someone's going down Saturday night, and we might see the results flipped a month later at OTT.

Edited January 30 by bnwtwg

[Le duke]

3 hours ago, peanut said:

Top contenders at this point in the season are (in no particular order):

• KOT (85% bonus)
• Brooks (100% bonus)
• Starocci (88% bonus)
• Fix (88% bonus)
• Hendrickson (88% bonus)
• Hidlay (88% bonus)
• Keckeisen (83% bonus)

You need to look at their individual records. As an example, WrestleStat records a MFF to Starocci as a non-bonus win. 

Of the 7 matches he's actually wrestled, he has 4 TFs and 3 Falls. No MDs, no DECs. 100% bonus.

Whereas Hendrickson has two actual DEC wins (Dawson, NDSU and Ghadiali, Campbell), and they record his bonus rate being equal to Starocci's, when it's not.

Edited January 31 by Le duke