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The Penn state guys should be out of consideration based on strength of schedule… their team dodges top competition for the first half of season 

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15 minutes ago, Fred said:

The Penn state guys should be out of consideration based on strength of schedule… their team dodges top competition for the first half of season 

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The Penn state guys should be out of consideration based on strength of schedule… their team dodges top competition for the first half of season 


Brooks, Starocci and Kerk all wrestled and soundly beat the #2 guys in the country.


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AND... according to most here on these forums, it's NEVER too late to pay your debts.

(Isn't that Right, synabon?!? 😏)

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1 hour ago, Le duke said:

 


Brooks, Starocci and Kerk all wrestled and soundly beat the #2 guys in the country.


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… in exhibition matches (“friendlies”) that don’t count 

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Flo's rankings from Jan. 10.  Olejnik has lost since then

 

RANK NAME SCHOOL WEIGHT YEAR RECORD PINS BONUS RATE DOMINANCE SCORE
1 Carter Starocci Penn State 174 SR 6-0 4 100% 5.16
2 Aaron Brooks Penn State 197 SR 6-0 3 100% 5.33
3 Keegan O'Toole Missouri 165 JR 10-0 4 90% 5
4 Greg Kerkvliet Penn State 285 SR 6-0 0 83% 4.16
5 Trent Hidlay NC State 197 SR 16-0 4 87% 4.87
6 Parker Keckeisen UNI 184 JR 16-0 2 75% 4.37
7 Ryan Crookham Lehigh 133 FR 10-0 1 70% 4.1
8 Ridge Lovett Nebraska 149 JR 14-0 3 64% 4.28
9 Izzak Olejnik Oklahoma State 165 SR 15-0 4 53% 4.2
10 Yonger Bastida Iowa State 285 SR 14-0 0 64% 4.07
11 Beau Bartlett Penn State 141 SR 9-0 4 66% 4.55
12 Levi Haines Penn State 157 SO 6-0 2 66% 4.5
13 Real Woods Iowa 141 SR 9-0 0 55% 4.11
14 Daton Fix Oklahoma State 133 SR 3-0 0 66% 4.33
15 Austin Gomez Michigan 149 SR 1-0 0 0% 3
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… in exhibition matches (“friendlies”) that don’t count 

You think people are going to forget they happened? Seriously?


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4 minutes ago, Le duke said:


You think people are going to forget they happened? Seriously?


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You think guys bring their best in an exhibition match? Seriously?

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42 minutes ago, SocraTease said:

Flo's rankings from Jan. 10.  Olejnik has lost since then

 

RANK NAME SCHOOL WEIGHT YEAR RECORD PINS BONUS RATE DOMINANCE SCORE
1 Carter Starocci Penn State 174 SR 6-0 4 100% 5.16
2 Aaron Brooks Penn State 197 SR 6-0 3 100% 5.33
3 Keegan O'Toole Missouri 165 JR 10-0 4 90% 5
4 Greg Kerkvliet Penn State 285 SR 6-0 0 83% 4.16
5 Trent Hidlay NC State 197 SR 16-0 4 87% 4.87
6 Parker Keckeisen UNI 184 JR 16-0 2 75% 4.37
7 Ryan Crookham Lehigh 133 FR 10-0 1 70% 4.1
8 Ridge Lovett Nebraska 149 JR 14-0 3 64% 4.28
9 Izzak Olejnik Oklahoma State 165 SR 15-0 4 53% 4.2
10 Yonger Bastida Iowa State 285 SR 14-0 0 64% 4.07
11 Beau Bartlett Penn State 141 SR 9-0 4 66% 4.55
12 Levi Haines Penn State 157 SO 6-0 2 66% 4.5
13 Real Woods Iowa 141 SR 9-0 0 55% 4.11
14 Daton Fix Oklahoma State 133 SR 3-0 0 66% 4.33
15 Austin Gomez Michigan 149 SR 1-0 0 0% 3

O’toole should be at the top. He just majored Ramirez and his only matches that weren’t bonus were against other top ten guys. 

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36 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Come on. Now you are just being silly to be silly. Take the L and move on

It’s silly to think otherwise. Agree to disagree 

Posted
3 hours ago, Fred said:

It’s silly to think otherwise. Agree to disagree 

Doesn't mean we have to agree with disagreeable posters.

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Posted
6 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Who is leading the Hodge race so far?

Throwing some names out there:

Crooham

Fix

Ragusin

Woods

O'Toole

Stallroci

Brooks

Crooham in his entire career will never win the Hodge, I can fly guarantee it! 

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This feels like a Brooks/Starocci co-Hodge sort of year. 

KOT is the only other guy I think has a shot. 165 is insane and he's killing people. If he does something crazy vs. Carr, all bets are off and you can expect Starocci to Xweet something indignant in reply to the Hodge announcement. 

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2 hours ago, TylerDurden said:

This feels like a Brooks/Starocci co-Hodge sort of year. 

KOT is the only other guy I think has a shot. 165 is insane and he's killing people. If he does something crazy vs. Carr, all bets are off and you can expect Starocci to Xweet something indignant in reply to the Hodge announcement. 

Carter would tweet something, but probably be happy to face him at Oly Trials.

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2 hours ago, Pinnacle said:

Carter would tweet something, but probably be happy to face him at Oly Trials.

im still very interested to see if carter can make 163 and if he can how he performs at that weight especially in a multi weigh in setting.

Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, TylerDurden said:

This feels like a Brooks/Starocci co-Hodge sort of year. 

KOT is the only other guy I think has a shot. 165 is insane and he's killing people.

KOT just had a nailbiter with Peyton Hall

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Posted (edited)

Top contenders at this point in the season are (in no particular order):

  • KOT (85% bonus)
  • Brooks (100% bonus)
  • Starocci (88% bonus)
  • Fix (88% bonus)
  • Hendrickson (88% bonus)
  • Hidlay (88% bonus)
  • Keckeisen (83% bonus)
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KOT isn't even guaranteed to make the finals much less win the whole thing. Don't forget that even though he won when it mattered most, he dropped two matches to Carr last year including getting pinned at Big 12s. Anyone who has Carr above KOT has a very sound argument to do so. It's not like this is a weak bracket like 125 this year or 197 the past couple years, at 165 these are two elite level NCAA *champions and three age-group world champions. Someone's going down Friday night and someone's going down Saturday night, and we might see the results flipped a month later at OTT.

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Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, peanut said:

Top contenders at this point in the season are (in no particular order):

  • KOT (85% bonus)
  • Brooks (100% bonus)
  • Starocci (88% bonus)
  • Fix (88% bonus)
  • Hendrickson (88% bonus)
  • Hidlay (88% bonus)
  • Keckeisen (83% bonus)

You need to look at their individual records. As an example, WrestleStat records a MFF to Starocci as a non-bonus win. 

Of the 7 matches he's actually wrestled, he has 4 TFs and 3 Falls. No MDs, no DECs. 100% bonus.

Whereas Hendrickson has two actual DEC wins (Dawson, NDSU and Ghadiali, Campbell), and they record his bonus rate being equal to Starocci's, when it's not.

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