InterMat Forums v. Ban Basketball

[BobDole]

The only fair and democratic way of solving the age old argument is a trial by your peers per our great US Constitution.

Presented below is the thread in which there was a $1,000 bet made between yours truly and @Ban Basketball.

Please read the evidence and register your vote on whether @Ban Basketball is guilty or not.

Do NOT let him bully or intimidate you and vote based upon the evidence.

Special thanks to @jross for archiving the great discussions of the old forum.

Thank you.

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[nhs67]

Guys.

I am only on Page 2 of 5.

This is great shit.

[jross]

Not guilty. 

The New Jersey All-Century (2001-2012) Team forum topic covers the years 2001 through 2012.  Ban's comment below did not specify the exact years.

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17 all-Americans in 10 years "ruins people," most of which not blue chip recruits out of high school?

Ban's next question about how many AAs in recent years indicates (to me) that his previous statement referred to something other than the most recent years.  

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How many do we have in recent years? Are those kids still being "ruined?"

Coach Penrith coached from 2001 to 2010.  It is unclear from Ban's statement which 10 years he refers to.  Logically, he could refer to coach Penrith's tenure.

Bob Dole infers that the 10 years must be the last 10 years from 2003 to 2012 by stating 'Actually it is only 9 AAs in the past 10 years chief.' and listing AA during those years.  Ban says it's 14 AAs, which is correct for 2001 to 2010.  Ban does not correct Bob Dole that he is referring to 2001 to 2010 or Penrith tenure but his rebuttal implies he agrees to the 2003 to 2012 range.  Bob calls out 'in the last 10 years' when attempting to accept the bet, as if an attempt to confirm the time period.

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In the last 10 years, sure I will take that bet, show me where the other 5 are from 2003 until 2012.

Ban does not agree to this and immediately corrects the 10-year time period.  

There is no two-way agreement and therefore no bet.

Edited September 7, 2023 by jross

[nhs67]

Okay.  Through Page 4 of 5.

Still painful.

[nhs67]

Page 5 of 5.

Weasel words are the true victors.

There was no inferring even being attempted or insinuating until BB lost the bet.  Then he weaseled out of it.

Under technicality, @jrossis correct.  It was clear that BB weaseled out of having to pay by saying he inferred a different set of dates.  There was no reason for anybody to believe otherwise aside for himself which was a deliberate attempted at being a turdbiscuit (you know what I am saying here, gents).

I must applaud his tenacity in claiming he won that exchange.  He lost.  Everybody lost and left the thread even more stupid than before they entered it as a direct result of his (BB) poor attempt at being a turdbiscuit.

For that and that alone he should have to donate $2k to CKWC for having wasted my time twice now.  The first time in 2012 and the second time just now.

[nhs67]

Also, I love that this is pinned.

[PencilNeck]

4 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Under technicality, @jrossis correct.  It was clear that BB weaseled out of having to pay by saying he inferred a different set of dates.  There was no reason for anybody to believe otherwise aside for himself which was a deliberate attempted at being a turdbiscuit (you know what I am saying here, gents).

jross's analysis is very much correct. I don't know if I'd go so far as to say that BB weaseled anything though. Senator Dole should have not taken the bait to make a pointless (yet oddly high dollar) wager on easily verifiable trivia.

 

I vote an unqualified not guilty, and shame on anyone for holding onto a grudge over this silly pissing contest for 11 years!

[ionel]

7 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

Page 5 of 5.

Everybody lost and left the thread even more stupid than before they entered it as a direct result of his (BB) poor attempt at being a turdbiscuit..

so if you read the whole thing 10 years ago and you re-read it again now, how much more stupid does one become.  Is it simple 2x or ^2 and does it put one at BB stupid level?  

[mspart]

Ah now we see the reason the estimable BobDole has relegated BB to the hinterlands on the boards all these years.   I never figured it was a personal vendetta but the possibility is compelling.  I'm sure BB did not make it too difficult for BobDole to make those decisions. 

I vote BB free and clear based on Jross's very good analysis of the situation.   Plus BB has done his time in purgatory.   Let him be free!!

mspart

[mspart]

9 votes so far.   Does that represent a quorum?

mspart

[Jason Bryant]

Ah now we see the reason the estimable BobDole has relegated BB to the hinterlands on the boards all these years.   I never figured it was a personal vendetta but the possibility is compelling.  I'm sure BB did not make it too difficult for BobDole to make those decisions. 
I vote BB free and clear based on Jross's very good analysis of the situation.   Plus BB has done his time in purgatory.   Let him be free!!
mspart

All these years? Bob never aided TheMat …

[WildTurk]

My guess is Ban Basketball just disappears for awhile now.  Then he will pop up on a new wrestling forum, with same exact handle, talking smack about the Hawkeyes while simultaneously sucking Cael's thumb. 

Then someone like me will clapback a little towards him, and his insecurities will result in a meltdown, accusing everyone of attacking him for the last 20 years. Rinse and repeat.  He is the definition of dishing it out, but can't take it. 

Edited September 7, 2023 by WildTurk

[CHROMEBIRD]

1 hour ago, nhs67 said:

Also, I love that this is pinned.

You mean pinfall. 

[Ban Basketball]

This MUST be considered: show us where the final conditions of the bet were agreed upon,  with the virtual handshake that agreed upon the terms.  The terms were not agreed upon.

This is NOT present, so now vote.  

[Ban Basketball]

1 hour ago, jross said:

Not guilty. 

The New Jersey All-Century (2001-2012) Team forum topic covers the years 2001 through 2012.  Ban's comment below did not specify the exact years.

Ban's next question about how many AAs in recent years indicates (to me) that his previous statement referred to something other than the most recent years.  

Coach Penrith coached from 2001 to 2010.  It is unclear from Ban's statement which 10 years he refers to.  Logically, he could refer to coach Penrith's tenure.

Bob Dole infers that the 10 years must be the last 10 years from 2003 to 2012 by stating 'Actually it is only 9 AAs in the past 10 years chief.' and listing AA during those years.  Ban says it's 14 AAs, which is correct for 2001 to 2010.  Ban does not correct Bob Dole that he is referring to 2001 to 2010 or Penrith tenure but his rebuttal implies he agrees to the 2003 to 2012 range.  Bob calls out 'in the last 10 years' when attempting to accept the bet, as if an attempt to confirm the time period.

Ban does not agree to this and immediately corrects the 10-year time period.  

There is no two-way agreement and therefore no bet.

Exactly.  The exact terms of the bet were never agreed upon.

[Ban Basketball]

1 hour ago, nhs67 said:

Guys.

I am only on Page 2 of 5.

This is great shit.

You must be easily amused. 

WOW!

[bnwtwg]

I like having Ban around because then I’m not the dumbest person allowed to wander outside The Zoo walls. He’s like the husband in my wife’s friend group that swears by crypto - I look good by default with that knuckle head at the dinner table.

Edited September 7, 2023 by bnwtwg

[Ban Basketball]

14 minutes ago, WildTurk said:

My guess is Ban Basketball just disappears for awhile now.  Then he will pop up on a new wrestling forum, with same exact handle, talking smack about the Hawkeyes while simultaneously sucking Cael's thumb. 

Then someone like me will clapback a little towards him, and his insecurities will result in a meltdown, accusing everyone of attacking him for the last 20 years. Rinse and repeat.  He is the definition of dishing it out, but can't take it. 

Who attacked whom first since you came on,  dipshit mother***duck duck goose**er?

[Ban Basketball]

1 minute ago, bnwtwg said:

I like having Ban around because then I’m not the dumbest person allowed to wander outside The Zoo walls. He’s like the husband in my wife’s friend group that swears by crypto - I look good by default with that dummy at the dinner table.

I'll match wits with a dumb***duck duck goose** like you any day, boy.

Care to compare careers?

[Ban Basketball]

See what I mean,  ol' Brilliant Bob?

The evidence is clear and the ones voting "guilty" are doing so only out of spite.  They're all too ***duck duck goose** stupid to read it all and not be able to clearly decipher that no final terms were ever agreed upon.

[Ban Basketball]

Today ( or tomorrow) will be my last day here.  Guaranteed.  Cancel culture will not tolerate my words,  nor people supporting me. 

And, once again,  it'll be a badge of honor to divorced from so many stupid ***duck duck goose**ers who just jerk off each other anyway. 

Edited September 7, 2023 by Ban Basketball

[WildTurk]

9 minutes ago, Ban Basketball said:

Who attacked whom first since you came on,  dipshit mother***duck duck goose**er?

This is unfolding just as I predicted. Some things in life just never change. Goodluck to you Ban.  I hope you find some peace

[Ban Basketball]

3 minutes ago, WildTurk said:

This is unfolding just as I predicted. Some things in life just never change. Goodluck to you Ban.  I hope you find some peace

***duck duck goose** you.

I'm trying to get my culture canceled now. 

Edited September 7, 2023 by Ban Basketball

[Ohio Elite]

4 minutes ago, Ban Basketball said:

Today ( or tomorrow) will be my last day here.  Guaranteed.  Cancel culture will not tolerate my words,  nor people supporting me. 

Stop teasing us.

[bnwtwg]

3 minutes ago, Ban Basketball said:

I'll match wits with a dumb***duck duck goose** like you any day, boy.

Care to compare careers?

Well since I’m a boy I guess you should go first. Feel free to post your LinkedIn for verification.