Best ever at each weight class

[Zahnarzt]

Best NCAA wrestlers to ever wrestle their particular weight class (assuming each can only be named once even if they wrestled multiple weight classes).  And I’m including only the current weight classes (would be interesting to make a list of previous weights as well).

 

125 - Spencer Lee

133 - Logan Steiber

141 - Zain Retherford

149 - Yianni Diakamaholis 

157 - Kyle Dake

165 - David Taylor

174 - Carter Starocci

184 - Aaron Brooks

197 - Cael Sanderson

285 - Gable Steveson 

 

[RYou]

Hmmmmm ?

Youngster

[ionel]

17 minutes ago, RYou said:

Hmmmmm ?

Youngster

new to the sport   ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Edited March 29, 2023 by ionel

[lu_alum]

1 hour ago, Zahnarzt said:

And I’m including only the current weight classes (would be interesting to make a list of previous weights as well).

It's not that difficult to blend-in the weight classes prior to the 1998 seven-pound increase (1970-1998).  Or, if you're adventurous, include the eras prior to 1970.  This covers you back to 1952, when ten weight classes were introduced.

• 115/115/118/125
• 123/123/126/133
• 130/130/134/141
• 137/137/142/149
• 147/145/150/157
• 157/152/158/165
• 167/167/167/174
• 177/177/177/184
• 191/191/190/197
• UNL/UNL/HWT/285

Edited March 29, 2023 by lu_alum

[Wrestleknownothing]

25 minutes ago, lu_alum said:

It's not that difficult to blend-in the weight classes prior to the 1998 seven-pound increase (1970-1998).  Or, if you're adventurous, include the eras prior to 1970.  This covers you back to 1952, when ten weight classes were introduced.

• 115/115/118/125
• 123/123/126/133
• 130/130/134/141
• 137/137/142/149
• 147/145/150/157
• 157/152/158/165
• 167/167/167/174
• 177/177/177/184
• 191/191/190/197
• UNL/UNL/HWT/285

If you want to get overly precise, I think it goes like this:

[fishbane]

1 hour ago, Zahnarzt said:

125 - Spencer Lee

133 - Logan Steiber

141 - Zain Retherford

149 - Yianni Diakamaholis 

157 - Kyle Dake

165 - David Taylor

174 - Carter Starocci

184 - Aaron Brooks

197 - Cael Sanderson

285 - Gable Steveson 

 

Would it not make more sense to swap Retherford and Diakomihalis?  Retherford was 5th in his lone season at 141 and a 3x champ 2x hodge winner at 149.  Meanwhile Diakomihalis has two chips at each weight.  Also should JB be there at either 157 or 165?

[lu_alum]

56 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

If you want to get overly precise, I think it goes like this:

 

True.  But I was staying within the current framework of ten weight classes.

[Matthew Burns]

Modern weight class parade of hammers

125 Spencer Lee
133 Logan Stieber
141 Kyle Dake
149 Zain Retherford
157 Jason Nolf
165 Alex Deirhringer
174 Ed Ruth
184 Cael Sanderson
197 Bo Nikal
285 Gable Stevenson

9 of the 10 have Hodge trophies. The lone exception has 2 losses and a medical forfeit in 4 seasons. Recency bias? Sure. The weights help dictate that.

[Gus]

11 minutes ago, Matthew Burns said:

Modern weight class parade of hammers

125 Spencer Lee
133 Logan Stieber
141 Kyle Dake
149 Zain Retherford
157 Jason Nolf
165 Alex Deirhringer
174 Ed Ruth
184 Cael Sanderson
197 Bo Nikal
285 Gable Stevenson

9 of the 10 have Hodge trophies. The lone exception has 2 losses and a medical forfeit in 4 seasons. Recency bias? Sure. The weights help dictate that.

If you are gonna put Dake at 141 might as well put DT at 165

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

17 minutes ago, Matthew Burns said:

Modern weight class parade of hammers

125 Spencer Lee
133 Logan Stieber
141 Kyle Dake
149 Zain Retherford
157 Jason Nolf
165 Alex Deirhringer
174 Ed Ruth
184 Cael Sanderson
197 Bo Nikal
285 Gable Stevenson

9 of the 10 have Hodge trophies. The lone exception has 2 losses and a medical forfeit in 4 seasons. Recency bias? Sure. The weights help dictate that.

When did Nolf, Dieringer and Ruth win Hodges?

Edited March 29, 2023 by Jimmy Cinnabon

[scourge165]

11 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

When did Nolf, Dieringer and Ruth win Hodges?

Dieringer won in 2016

[RYou]

8 hours ago, Matthew Burns said:

Modern weight class parade of hammers

125 Spencer Lee
133 Logan Stieber
141 Kyle Dake
149 Zain Retherford
157 Jason Nolf
165 Alex Deirhringer
174 Ed Ruth
184 Cael Sanderson
197 Bo Nikal
285 Gable Stevenson

9 of the 10 have Hodge trophies. The lone exception has 2 losses and a medical forfeit in 4 seasons. Recency bias? Sure. The weights help dictate that.

174 Ben Askren - 2x Hodge

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

7 hours ago, scourge165 said:

Dieringer won in 2016

Thanks.  And when did Nolf and Ruth win their Hodges?

[lu1979]

125 - S Abas

133 - Yojiro Uetake

141 - Logan S

149 - Yianni

157 - Pat Smith

165 - Kyle Dake

174 - Mark Schultz

184 - Cael

197 - Ed Banach

Hvwt - Gable

[lu1979]

After further thought I will change 157 to Lee Kemp

 

[KCMO2]

2 hours ago, RYou said:

174 Ben Askren - 2x Hodge

Sincerely.  Brooks and Ruth ahead of Askren? 

[Matthew Burns]

2 hours ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Thanks.  And when did Nolf and Ruth win their Hodges?

Should read "8 of 10". I have old eyes and fat fingers.

Nolph and Ruth didn't win Hodges. I realize I left Taylor off. Simply my preference.

[Le duke]

Sincerely.  Brooks and Ruth ahead of Askren? 

Yeah.


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[Gus]

If we are talking about these guys at their apex here are a few more that should be considered: John Smith (wrestled 134 in college so would slot into the 141 spot currently), Tom Brands (wrestled 134 in college so would slot into the 141 spot currently), Dan Gable (wrestled 137 so would slot into the 141 or 149 spot)

[Wrestej]

50 minutes ago, Le duke said:

Yeah.


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91 pins.  Enough said.

[Le duke]

91 pins.  Enough said.

He’d get beaten soundly by Ed Ruth.


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[Wrestej]

6 minutes ago, Le duke said:

He’d get beaten soundly by Ed Ruth.


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91

 

[Le duke]

91
 

In a third rate conference with plenty of bums from the Southwest Missouri State Open sprinkled in there.

He also lost to Pendleton what, 6 times?


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[nhs67]

1 minute ago, Le duke said:

In a third rate conference with plenty of bums from the Southwest Missouri State Open sprinkled in there.

He also lost to Pendleton what, 6 times?


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When DT and Ruth wrestled it showed me that Ruth couldn't handle elite scrambling.

Askren would wipe the floor with him.

[Dark Energy]

Burroughs not being on your lists = nonsense.  World gold coming out of senior year and kept Dake and Taylor off the national team shortly after.