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Yeah...just a steaming pile of shit... (Too far?)

I missed that conversation. I didn't think he had it...I also don't think the 4 inches is that closely observed. For instance, if Murin could have kept Yianni on his left side(right at the start of the scramble I think...when he rolls through. If he could have held him there, I think they start counting, but he was probably 4" off the mat. Murin could have easily gotten called for the defensive pin there also. Anyway, I guess I should have assumed a match between a 4X(potential 4X Champ at the time) and an Iowa guy would have been discussed.

Well...first of all, no, I did not. But the topic of the thread is Bouzakis and the Ferrari's. You just heard(figuratively speaking) from one of them...they're not leaving Ohio State...kinda cutting the credibility out at the knees. If it's just "making moves," well...yeah, that's vague enough, any team in the Country will be "making moves" and likely have some roster turnover or changes in the next 3 months.

I thought they were two separate issues as well. I didn't think he was charged for the situation with the guns, that it was either not reported or not followed up on(for whatever reason). And maybe not true, just speculation. But definitely under the impression they were two unique events.

The kid just came out and said he's staying at Ohio State. He has an extremely close, emotional bond to Ryan and a full year to develop into a '41, or Mendez into a '41, or Mendez RS's and they figure it out. What's there still to debate?

Scott was screaming about the 2nd stall, not the escape. I'm about 99% certain they never awarded the escape. And if they did, I don't see how they overturn it.

Well...good for him. But I get the confusion with people who are wondering why there hasn't been more coverage on a program that generally...get a ton of coverage. I don't think anyone's suggested he owes anyone anything. Talk about mental toughness though. Hell week...I've talked to Wrestler's who've gone off to boot camp and kinda joked that it was a breeze compared to Wrestling and Seals talk about just how...mentally exhausting the week is.

I don't know, I think you could paint a pretty ugly picture of any sport if you kinda cherry picked things like this. A coach involved in covering up athletes selling or trading drugs, prominent athletes accused of sexual assault, fighting. The B1G programs do have the facilities and they're not in dire straights financially, and Wrestling is part of their DNA. It'd be like if Women were playing Football, you'd think the SEC would be the program to be out in front there. Maybe Baseball is a better example as Football is pretty big everywhere, but, you get the point. Most of the women I've seen Wrestling just look like athletes. A coach with dyed hair or a lot of piercings, meh...is that a big deal.

So....no? I mean...I could stomach that. ONE day a year? Oh...what a delight that'd be!

I'll guess Jesuroga. Keuter could be making millions in 3 years time at a premium position. So I'd guess a lot of it will have to do with how he looks coming off his Freshmen year for the FB team. But a 6'4 225 OLBer with athleticsm...Iowa has a guy who was a backup for them projected to be a mid 1st round pick(Luke Van Ness-as high as #9 in some mocks).

No...I assure you, I AM really surprised there aren't more B1G schools following Iowa's lead. Why do you think it's a "circus" though?

Yianni said he Wrestled looser this tournament due to some family issues(everything was fine though). But it seemed like he wrestled a bit tighter. Van Ness wrestled out of his mind and had a great tourney, but I was surprised to see him on the ropes so many times.

That could be good for the sport. Help it grow. I'm a little surprised there aren't more B1G schools in the process of starting a program. It IS possible to make just one thread not about you...right? Why don't we just let this be that thread.

Messenbrink... They definitely look like they're going to be up there with PSU, Cornell, Iowa and then after those 4, I'd say ASU and ISU(maybe Neb).

Eh...that was a good one. It was a sloppy shot from distance late as well, wasn't it? I think Gomez likely loses to Sasso. What about Murin vs Yianni? Anyone else think Murin maybe should have gotten NF there...outside of Iowa fans(I'm pretty sure I know your position).

Yeah, but the argument was specifically they'd take Angelo alone, and if it meant the other 2, they wouldn't. Then Ionel came back and suggested that he's similar to his brothers based on his actions on the Mat...which is just ridiculous in my opinion.

Yeah, but it's kinda valid since the topic was literally transfers. I'd say Kerk is different since he never actually wrestled anywhere else, but citing him isn't a whataboutism. Also, arguing PSU wouldn't be on top without the portal is nonsense. I said before the year-and took a ton of shit for it-that I thougth PSU was better off sticking with Beard...and I still believe that. He was a 5th seed, he lost a 7-6 match to Braunagel and then a 4-2 match to Truax, the #2 seed on the backhalf. But they won by more than what Kerk and Dean provided. MAYBE last year Michigan beats them without the two...but I doubt it.

I don't care if he flexes on the mat. There is a MASSIVE chasm between flexing on the mat and felonious sexual assault. I haven't heard anything bad about Angelo and if his brother wasn't AJ Ferrari, nobody would give it a second thought. I don't like the guilt by association or the Sins of the Brother, however you'd like to put it. Angelo seems solid as far as I know.

LOL...this?

I thought RBY went out and finished that match like a Champ. I wouldn't compare him and Kerk-at all. Kerk looked like he was resigned to 2nd place...which is weird because he's beaten Parris several times and an athlete like Kerkvliet, he was capable of beating Parris. Obviously Parris was outstanding, but Kerk just looked broken. BTW, what's HEW stand for? I mean, in this context? I've seen it several other uses, but...it doesn't make sense here.

No, it was not. A stalling was awarded in the final ~5 seconds to tie the score up at 3, but O'Conner had RT. Again, no, the escape was not given. A stalling call was given. If they'd have called the escape, there's no chance they could have overruled it on the mat. I was watching it on ESPN, so it's possible the timer was off...but I'm skeptical it was 2 seconds off...and he kicks out with 2 seconds, hits the mat at ~1 and is up and facing before you the clock is at 0...on ESPN. So it's possible that was the issue, but again, you can hear the refs and they said they can't see the time.

Ok, then I guess put it on the refs. They had the one angle on their matside camera, they had 6 angles upstairs. You can hear the ref on the TV say he can't see the clock, he looks at the other ref and I believe he says, "no escape," and the other ref says, "ok." So maybe not on LeHigh, but they blew that call. I guess I wasn't aware that the refs double checking constituted an 'official review,' and if that is the criteria, they should send it up to get the best view. They were obviously not trying to delay the match as it was literally over at that point. EITHER WAY...I think Humphreys got screwed there(with the lone caveat that it's possible the TV timer was not perfect, but I still believe in a match to determine who goes to the semi's, it should be decided up top).

Seems like a silly task IMO, but Askren has said he thinks he will go 174 at some point. Well...he's 3 years in, so some point is coming pretty quickly. I do not see him beating Starocci. He's just too fundamentally sound and he's a big '74, but it'd certainly be an interesting match.

LOL...yup, that's about what I thought!

Yeah, cool. ANOTHER Gif. Why don't you break it down for us? He should have played up the injury the next day like it was a WWE event because that's what he'd have done if he was in public relations! He'd have limped to the mat like he was in SOO much pain they were all saying, "no Spencer, it's not worth it!" And he'd have pulled up his straps...struggling to do so and gritted it out so the public perception was different! Cool story. Silly...kinda nonsense. Uncle Chael CLEARLY missed the mark here. And that's without all the silly nonsense that he just got factually wrong. But hey, the important thing here is....well, you know Chael and you love Gifs!!!