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I also find it interesting, for all the people who are now "discredited," by being in pictures with Diddy, trump, like Epstein, referred to him as a "great friend and a great person," and said he "loved Diddy," and partied with him regularly in the 90s. Trump, he work visas for hundreds of young girls ~14-20 who came over to serve men at parties with the hopes of earning "modeling" contracts. Of all the creepy shit, talking about how you'd probably be having sex with your daughter when she's barely 20 if "ya know, I wasn't her Dad," is....up there. Even above the "you know what's funny...I'll be dating her in 10 years," to 10-year-old girls. I don't know how this election will go(I suspect Trump will win due to the dumbing down of this Country...which you can see in the return of the Flat Earth theory in which people actually believe Asgard is just outside the Ice Walls and you're not "allowed" to go to the North Pole as well as ALL the other conspiracies, but the one that's almost the most impressive is how Trump has been able to take the HIGH road by many cult members on protecting children/sex work. Makes you wonder why he'd need "Trump Escorts," trademarked or why he'd have been having SOOO many parties similar to Diddy and Epstien? Or shit, why did he try and give Acosta, the guy who went behind Federal Prosecutors and give Epstein a deal when they had enough on him to put him away for 20+ years EASILY and were TALKING about a plea deal in which he'd get 10 years, and have Acosta give him a deal with 1 year of home confinement and then in an unprecedented move, include blanket immunity for all known and UNKNOWN co-conspirators. For all the Epstien conspiracy theories about who shut him up, why give the guy who got him off(at least in one manner of speaking) a job in your administration? And then...you wish his pimp well in a multitude of ways on multiple occasions and you BUY THE JET Epstein used! I mean, the last one is not incriminating, but it's weird AT BEST. The most infamous private plane from the renowned child trafficker that you spoke highly of, you visited regularly...you'd think you'd stay away from THAT if nothing else! And finally...again, I don't think it proves any liability on Trump's behalf, but if you can contort yourself into buying into these theories that the Clintons' or some other shadowy figure was behind the Epstein "suicide," which...I actually think may have been a suicide, he was the most infamous predator in the world by then, but if you ARE going to blame said shadowy figure, why WOULDN'T it be his old buddy Trump? He was the man in power. How does NOTHING that happened when he was POTUS fall on his lap, but all the good things he inherited, that's all because of him? As one person said on this very forum when I pointed out Trump was right when he said he could shoot someone on 5th Ave and not lose a supporter and that person said, "If Trump shot someone, they were in need of shooting. By the way, is Gary Hart still alive? He has to be thinking, "what in hell? I was on track to be president and one affair ended me!?! This guy has had countless, including with porn stars and allegedly underage girls and he's got a whole cult! I was banging one blonde on a boat and it ended my career! I won't even get into the 40 of 44 Members of his Cabinet, as well as countless other Republicans who are now lined up behind him. Amazing....

No, it we're being honest, that was a partisan ***duck** up, but don't tell me the guy who was President for 7 years was warning about it. The ONE absolute though...across the board tariffs are a massive tax, they're not effective and tariffs have been the single worse policy in US History on balance. Smoot-Hawley being the main one. You don't get money from other Countries, your companies pay taxes. Biden showed how...much he declined during the debate. If MAGA wasn't a cult, they'd admit the same thing after that Rogan podcast. Even Rogan...who's not even been subtle about his biases, laughed at him. He's not fit for office for a plethora of reasons. Rome's burning. It's a small fire, but it's burning hot. We can either throw a little water on it, maybe suffocate it...or we can pour a bunch of jet fuel on it. Either way, we'll get what we deserve. If we want to be fair, the GOP was against the Bank "Bailout," which the US made it's money back on and then some, stopping a run on the banks, and Obama bailed out the Auto Industry which was... immeasurable in terms of economic impact. I'm not really trying to legislate every single aspect of the economy going all the way back or I'd point to Nixon freezing prices AND wages as a band aid to a gaping GSW when inflation and unemployment were inching toward 8%....then Ford upheld said policies and Carter was left with the inflation and poor economy and who was blamed for it? The guy sitting behind the big Oval Desk. That ONLY doesn't apply to one President...and it's the 44th man to serve as President of the United States and likely(possibly) the 46th if he wins next week. https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/12/who-is-really-responsible-for-the-housing-crisis/250482/ EITHER WAY, inflation in the last CPI was down to 2.4%, the GDP is growing between 3-4%, unemployment is low...and unlike '16 when Trump promised tax cuts, even Wall Street doesn't want him back in there(they already got their cut). But you could go on for hours about "facts," point out the man who claims the elections in 2016 and 2020 were riggged, the emmy's were rigged, the Nobel Peace Prize was rigged, point out more members of the armed forces died under his watch, pulled out of Syria giving the Russians a foothold in the area and abandoning the Kurds, the guy who calls himself a Christian yet when asked if he's ever asked for forgiveness has said, "No...I really don't think I have. I'm trying to think what would I have asked forgiveness for....I like to keep god out of all that," again, the capstone to Christianity and his supporters say, "fake news." So....alright. I did find it funny that he went on Rogan, in part to "prove," the election was "rigged," and when Rogan asked him, he said he had a "stack of papers," and they'd talk about it "some other time." Kamala isn't going to be Lincoln, but she's better than the guy we've been dealing with. And given the way he didn't leave office, how his Generals are talking about how he's "fascist to the core," I don't have faith he'll leave this next time. He said he deserves an "extra term" because his was "stolen" from him. So the argument isn't that the Democrats were perfect on the housing crisis, it's FAR deeper than that. But if they were sounding the alarm bells, why didn't they do ANYTHING when they controlled Congress? Or even try?

Shit...I'll have to add her to my list with Hunter Biden of people NOT to vote for...

If they say they're a "Never-Trumper," say he's America's Hitler...and then they join the ticket with him and say he's the only one who can make America Great Again. They all do it, but...sometimes it's a big more egregious. "America's Hitler."

You mean the housing crisis that took place the final year of Bush's 2nd term?

Who is this?

Yeah, when people can watch him in that interview and deny it? LOL...he was bad. I remember Nickal and Rogan talking about how Biden thinking there were airports during the Revolutionary War was "disqualifying," and then Jamie had to chime in and correct them, that he was mocking Trump and immediately it was the "well, when you give that many speeches, you get your words mixed up." It doesn't matter. We'll get who we deserve. If it's the absolute fool who thinks that across-the-board tariffs are the way to go or the guy who thinks the Chips Act was a "terrible deal," because "they stole all our chips...we used to make the most beautiful chip, now, we don't make chips," then we deserve the negative GDP growth that'll come with that. That's the most puzzling shit to me. Bush leaves a TERRIBLE economy, under Obama, it turns around, it's going strong, Trump comes in....completely drops the ball on the pandemic, leaves another disaster, Biden has it completely turned around....and we're thinking, 'nah, lets go back again.' If that's what we do, that's what we deserve. The man said...."I love the poorly educated."

How much is Iowa giving Sadulaev(I mean, why not open this up to the Russians as well). That man doesn't have to get off the bottom once. You're not turning him and I doubt he gets stalled out in 2 minutes. So just a bunch of 1st period TDs, pick neutral, more TDs, probably a fall, and then someone picks top and he probably gets out, but even if he's the worst version of Yonger Bastida on the bottom, still nothing).

Gee...how would the best Wrestlers in the WORLD do...in Wrestling? That's an interesting question. Probably poorly.

I guess I'll be picking him at HT this year. He reminds me of Tommy Rowlands so much. I get that's a lofty comp, Rowlands...he went, what, 1, 2, 6, 1...so ya know, not quite the same trajectory, but I think it's entirely possible he ends up in the same place. Beating a bigger Penn State Wrestler in the finals. Trephan is a helluva Wrestler to be watching from the bench though.

That kid looks like he could be a monster up at 174 after a RS year. He's so long, athletic...but the few times I've seen him, he wrestles so conservatively. If he just opens up, with his defense, he's savvy...he could be a fun kid to watch. Another year from now, Birden at '74, Welsh at '84, Ryder goes up to '97, Feldman, that could be a helluva run to go with the bottom half of that lineup. I don't know if it's quite enough to beat PSU...but it's not hard to see them giving them a run. They need a couple kids to jump levels but man, they have some horses.

Fine, get rid if passivity. Let a guy stall in the 'Extra time,' or sudden death period. No shot clocks. I don't care. TD or push out. There's subjectivity in everything though. I'd still rather see the actually win than each guy gets a TD and a pushout, but the last pushout is somehow more meaningful

All you can do is just...laugh at the absurdity or it. I'm not real confident Taylor will place now...but he could come back and have a chance to go for 3rd.

This thread started...in a silly way, but 1-No criteria. Put them back into the Center and let them Wrestle until someone scores. 2-I thought the rule used to be you could only do one gut(maybe it was 2) unless you held them there for a 3rd point. I wouldn't mind that. That's about it. I think there's too much trying to "fix" what's not broken.

Is this confirmed? Also...I'm a big Lucas Byrd fan. I don't know the kid...I don't particularly care about Illinois...I just like the way that kid competes and Wrestles. I hope he can get on a run and win it. I don't think he will, but it'd be nice.

NO! Means no...."no, stop it, you're being so bad," that does not mean no! (Unless you get a bad read).

Ah...ok. I was thinking there was some joke that he was somehow coming back in to Wrestle after...what I assumed was a Mormon Mission, but I missed that he was a 23-year-old Freshmen. LOL...does the team Beau Bassett go jump on the list? All you need is him to take a year off Wrestling at an RTC for a year and he'll be a 23-year-old RS Freshmen! (I'm not taking a shot at the kid, a world bronze is a world bronze).

This joke is going over my head...

I don't know man...he showed pictures of a Wrestler who's got muscles. If that's not proof a guy is dirty...I don't know what is. The only way I trust a guy in this sport is clean is if he has a John Daily like physique! THIS is all natural!

Yes. I think watching your coach getting ready to face the guy I believe to be the greatest College Wrestler of all time in Sadulaev will help his coach, in recruiting, and be better from the program. If he beats him...it depends on what Sad does next 4 years. Does he get back on top and win a couple more WC and an Olympics(I believe so) or did we see the start of the end with the injury default? I think it'd be a bigger win than any Taylor has had...and I am skeptical he'll get it.

I think this is a stupid topic...but unless there's part of Wrestling history I'm missing, ie, Gable being offered or courted by ISU, then...this is the answer. Pushes out Douglas and then leaves for the most talent-rich state in the Country. I remember when this happened I thought PSU becoming a powerhouse was a given. Just the Greatest College Wrestler ever along with the #1 Wrestling State(by a lot) for College talent. You knew he'd pick up recruits and the way ISU was trending, he'd develop them. I don't like the word betrayal, but it's by far the closest thing. I did think ISU tried to hire Gable at some point though and I don't blame him or think it's a betrayal for not going back. DT was blocked by 4-5 guys, namely Cunningham, a guy who'd be the most sought-after HC IF he left, so who'd he betray? But he was building something at ISU and IIRC, Taylor was headed to wrestle at ISU, right? So for this stupid question, this is the obvious answer.

I think the reason he can't generate enough offense is less about Sasso's ability to get to a leg or score, but more because of Mesenbrink and his relentless motor. He WILL run him down as you say. If he scores first or if he's down...6-0 after the first. There are a couple of Wrestlers I believe could beat him from '57 to '74..and one of them is a teammate now, one was a teammate(I believe) for a year in HS...or at least they went to the same HS.

I think Sad wins it going away if he's healthy. I don't think he was healthy vs Taz in that last WC and I think he'd have won the Olympics...but we'll see.

From what I'VE heard was that some of the Karelin stuff was...embellished to magnify the 2000 Olympic Matchup. Rulon's coach came up with the unbeaten in 14 years and unscored upon in 10(we know he was beaten and then it was overturned in one WC in like '98 or '97 and he was scored on). NOT that this takes away from what an absolute MONSTER of a man Karelin was. Just watching that reverse lift was amazing.

This is...duck duck goose'ing awesome! Nice... (I've only read the initial post, but please Jimmy, please resist the urge to douche this up by making it a John Smith vs Fantasy Match thread).