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I THOUGHT they tested the top 8. All AAs. Maybe that's not the case anymore...but I'm skeptical it's widespread. I HAVE wondered about an athlete or two who jumped up a couple classes and didn't have acne and now needs blood time for it, but I don't want to be a douche and signal a kid out for nothing other than growing into a weight class and getting bigger.

Yeah...maybe. Or maybe if they didn't have Kasak last year they'd have tried to get Van Ness ready for the NCAAs and he'd have been all beat up going into it. You're also forgetting Lee who was ALWAYS wrestling with a torn or two torn ACLs and rarely healthy and then guys like Kemerer who was pretty banged up when he beat and then subsequently lost to Starocci...among others. I do think Iowa needs to modernize their training and maybe a little less trying to run through a wall, but I don't think you can prevent injuries when you intentionally put your own knee into an unnatural position in an attempt to defend a shot. As for Smith, Missouri isn't a Wrestling Powerhouse(as a HS state). It's solid, but not great. So...yeah, I don't know, I feel like they have done a good job staying competitive and they have a guy who I believe COULD step right in for 'O'Toole at 174 and be a NC contender next year...if Sinclair is wiling to cut to the best weight for him, they get Elam back as well as other young horses and...what, 8 top 100 recruits. And I agree, you lose him, maybe you become a Wisconsin type program? He's built a VERY good program that is top 5-8 in it's best years and I don't think this year is a good reason to dump Smith. I also don't think they have the resources others do. And when I say the others, I'm talking about the blue bloods, Michigan, Cornell and a few others just a tier below the 4 blue bloods(PSU, Iowa, Okie St, Ohio State). Iowa State is in that next tier also. I think Missouri can get back to competing with those programs. The top 4 are...kinda in their own group in terms of resources. And then Nebraska. I think that's what Missouri...with the right group can aim for. That type of upside. Not sure where to put ASU at this point and I'm forgetting other good programs, but I do think PSU is making other teams better and Mizzou just had a down year or couple years.

I also find those who talk about their large manhood are overcompensating. All I can say...I can drink a bottle of water with one hand...which I think just means average, but...what do I know! Oh Christ dude...no, that's NOT what I mean. It IS very telling that you knew what the term for...basically dick cheese was off the top of your head. Never have I heard the word "smegma" male when talking about...basically...having a dirty dick! You're telling on yourself here brother! It's like when the guy brags about NOT having crabs or STDs while telling you the medical terms for them(whilst having no MD before their name) and how they feel or how much it hurts to piss with...whatever it is you get that makes it hurt to piss. I don't know what to tell ya brother. Carry some wet wipes around or...Christ, do something. That is NASTY. And this following your claim you have a horse dick? So you're basically telling me you could provide all the cheese for a VERY disgusting Lasagna?

They should be favored at 2 and then Lovett needs to get an early TD IMO. And then get out on the bottom. I haven't been super impressed by Henson(relative to a guy who could win 3 titles). I had SVN winning...and I'm still not sure what to think of that match. It seemed like SVN, if he just took a little more time on a couple attempts, he finishes and makes that a REAL close match. But...he got down 11-0 as Lovett just dominated him early. So...just kina interesting.

I thought that was just nonsense. I'm not a PSU fan...though often accused of one and I've argued...a LOT about how I think Starocci gets a lot less respect than he has earned, but...JB said NOTHING but the painfully obvious. I thought he said he'd shoot on the good leg and try and make him use the bag leg to push or defend with. Suuuch a basic take and I didn't see anyone other than Bo Nickal whine about it. I actually thought it was more the Mitchell Mesenbrink match that got a little physical when the PSU fans booed him after he gave Mesenbrink an extra shove out of bounds(Which is ironic as Mesenbrink does that himself constantly). I get what you're saying, that's why people don't like him, but I think it's just pettiness from PSU fans that I don't recall actually saying much on here.

Yeah, but he didn't. In fact, he gave him a TON of credit, said he loved his attitude and then when Cormier(who...seems like he takes this a bit more casually and has a few beers while doing it) brought up their match, he gave him credit for just constantly attacking and his belief in himself(Mesenbrinks). I think it's funny what people don't like in Wrestling. Aside from hearing the word "resilite," or anyone Scottish or who calls Wrestling a "fight," I can't say I've heard someone that bothered me. Some of you are bothered by...a whole lot!

I'm finding myself...still being annoyed with you and not liking AJ Ferrari. Guess I don't do as well with change!

I'm not always sure what these emojis mean, but...that's a fist in solidarity!

The ONLY thing that could have made it better would have been if Trephan would have finished that single on Gable, made that a closer match and then if Romney could have gotten out and gone to the OT. That was such a good match. Oh, and if Fugitt gets that early TD and then DOESN'T give up the 5 with seconds left in the 2nd for the decisive margin. If I'm being greedy, I'd have loved to have seen Haines get a TD and then Hamiti have to go back on offense and just watch them battling and throwing haymakers at each other(figuratively).

LEAST surprising post of the day, you picking AGAINST the 4X National Champ going for a 5th and then Mitchell...Mesenbrink, both on the team you root for. And the biggest lock is probably at 197, right? Buchanan is gonna beat Barr? If Gable would have transferred to Penn State This year, your list would go Gable, Starocci and then Mesenbrink. I don't think Keck winning is that unrealistic. I think it's about a 10% chance. But you calling it, that was about a 99.999% chance.

Do they? I've heard a lot of beta males say this... Honestly, being a sigma male...I couldn't care less!

I don't think he was dejected at all, I think he was thrilled. I have been in a situation(with...needless to say FAR lower stakes) where I coach against kids I coached in kids club, middle school, a little bit in College and you want to win, but then you think about watching those kids grow and their pain(again, this is going, placing or winning state) and you're excited and then again, you think about that kid you spent hours with and you're conflicted. And the last thing you want to do is seem overjoyed. A kid who viewed you as a mentor or a hero(that's more DT specific, LOL) and...it's going to be mixed feelings, but you want to win first and foremost.

Yeah, it really is bad luck. They just don't have the depth...and neither does Iowa for that matter, but guys get hurt. That's why a lot of Freshmen I know don't want to take that RS if they're healthy. They know what a year with this scrambling and the bent knees will do to their careers... They have some studs coming and a really good recruiting class and the knee injuries...they are just flukey. So are the shoulder injuries. Every time you're in on a single trying to finish, that's...creating a dangerous situation.

Maybe...but it just seems disappointing. Nebraska, I get Smith is a transfer, but look at that talent they've developed. Iowa has Buchanan(one finalist), Caliendo(2nd), Teemer, Parco. I think a big move in the right direction was Bassett. I hope Estrada can become a stud for them. But bang for the buck, it's the high end HS kids and then it really seems like they could use a fresh coach in their room. Outside the box, but I'm just thinking...I wonder if you paid Nolf the right type of money, if you could get him. They DO seem like they've made a BIG step in the right direction. If they can go Caliendo, Kennedy, Arnold, Ferrari, Keuter on the back half next year... Maybe Harvey Ludington in there at '97(dear GOD if there was ever a reason to not go after AJ Ferrari...this is the case. You have a stud coming in, a guy who could develop into a multi National Champ... You could start out with Deluca, Ayala...I think 149 could be Estrada. I thought he was a STUD and an underrated recruit. You add Bassett and maybe pick up another recruit at that '41-'65 by '26 and you'll have a TON of homegrown talent. But Iowa has to develop their own young guys to get the heat online off Brands.

Yeah, I think the story was written with Lillendahl, Bartlett, SVN, Kasak and Haines. PSU usually wins a couple of those. SVN came out like he had no plan. Kasak just couldn't string together attacks. Haines wrestled a very timid Hamiti(after the first TD) and was in on several shots and...never seemed to show the appropriate level of desperation. Lillendahl looked flat. Penn State has built their reputation for what they do on ESPN on Friday Morning, Friday Night and then perhaps Saturday. Kasak or SVN wrestling back on the backside their Freshmen years were VERY impressive and that's what you expect maybe of the younger guys, but not NCs or the #1 seeds(though I will say Davis last year was a big of an outlier). They win the 50/50 matches and most of the 25/75 matches....like Josh Barr did. But when THIS type of tournament is less than impressive for YOUR standards, that only speaks to your standards.

That's...silly. They had two competitive Wrestlers. '25 and '33. It should really take more than that.

There are like...93 threads about Wisconsin and Bono already. His seat isn't hot...though after a 7 minute match, his arse should be well done, he's not going anywhere. It IS interesting to think about what a Wisconsin team could do... -25 Rivera -33 Fugitt -41 Clark -49 Brenner -65-Mesenbrink(and about 5 others) -74-O'Toole, Whiting, Riddle -84-Keckiesen and then Sinclair -97-Buchanan, Mirasola -HWT-Mirasola I'm missing guys, but...that's a contender there.

This is a fools errand at most weights(only because it's unpredictable...but I still enter pools). 125-Spratley needs to come out and be more aggressive. Robinson IS going to get in on him and probably take him down. He's too slick and talented. I've seen two Spratley's...but based on the Semis, I've gotta take Robinson 133-I'm a huge Byrd fan, I'm taking Byrd again...even if I think it's Ayala's year. 141-Mendez(I WOULD like to see Hardy get some payback for what happened to him last year...an indignity no man should EVER suffer...that man was on ESPN). 149-Lovett 157-Insane. I'd have bet money Shapiro and Kasak would be out there, but I think Taylor is figuring it out. 165-Mesenbrink is Thanos. He is inveitable. 174-Hamiti...I think the Haines match helped him get over the hump. 184-Cstarr but this is not a gimme. 197-I think Barr pulls this one out HWT-Hendrickson (no, not really, Gable, BUT...I think the blue print to beating Gable is simple and nearly impossible. Defensive 1st, close the distant, handfight but block. Gable goes down, Hendrickson has to beat his first move, ride him...not out, but for a while, take a little more wind out of his sails and then...3rd period...find a way to get a TD?)

Well, Starr is more cut and...looks more cut, but I thought he was actually a little more cut than Keck, but Keck is thicker in the core. He could have a Ruth like career or he could have a Hidlay type career. Wouldn't be shocked either way. Again, the talent at '84 is going to be wild the next few years. If I was Barr though, I'd be spending the off-season building up and planning on staying at '97. Even if that means Mirasola has to cut or....well, not make the lineup.

I don't know how good of a football player McEnelly was(obviously good) but wasn't Dechow offered D1 Scholarships? I thought he was a 200LB back who ran like a 4.5 40 and could have...potentially played at the next level(I guess if you're that good and highly recruited, I just assume you COULD go pro). I'm not sure his build is not a normal Wrestling build. He's just ...good sized '84. More athletic and his feet are quicker than normal 84's, but he looks like a slightly bigger Cael as a Freshmen.

Maybe. He's more athletic...but that's not a huge margin. And I think Parker is bigger and more physical than Starocci. Just a bigger frame, length. I think they both had a chance to beat Starocci and I still think Parker does. I really think this will be Starocci's more impressive tournament could be this year(though...last year, the bad knee, beating former NC back to back was also pretty impressive. Also why in all the arguments I made about Starocci and what a 5th would mean I qualified it with an IF he wins. And another topic, but I mentioned this yesterday, but how ridiculous is 184 gonna be next year? McEnally, Barr, Welsh, Ferrari, you have a bunch of guys coming back. Berge and others. Just a stacked weight. Oh, Sinclair seems like he'll be at 184(though...I hope it's 174).

Yeah, I meant in terms of the big matches. I guess I haven't been paying attention to the backside. I thought I saw someone say Davis was out and I know Lillendahl beat Rivera...and I suppose it's a good bet SVN, Kasak, Haines, Bartlett all take 3rd. But yeah, it's just not the type of performance I expected. That's probably due to Penn State's overall performance.

Dude...it's an expression. "Give credit to..." doesn't mean YOU specifically are not giving those teams credit, it's just...simply MY way of saying...give those teams credit. You ever watch a Super Bowl, World Series, whatever? The losing team, they say, "give credit to the Eagles, they battled all night, just came up short." Whatever. Man, people are sensitive(or at least on edge). Why would you think I'm "barking" at you at all?

I can't speak to his reasoning, but that male pattern baldness and those gold medals? I mean, who even cares about LSU Women's Gymnastics at this point, ammiright? (I mean, to be clear...I've never actually watched LSU Gymnastics, but I'm still...quite the fan...or I used to be until Okie St Wrestling become a contender again).

Yeah, but...if you're a PSU fan, this is probably the worst tournament under Cael...relative to expectations. They have such an uncanny knack for winning in the Semis...to watch Van Ness get just dominated in the first, Kasak to get beaten, Haines just had one chance after another as Hamiti shut it down(he really should have just scored and put it away). Give credit to Nebraska, Okie State, Iowa...I mean, I don't think anything has fundamentally changed given the talent PSU has that'll be there the next year or 3, especially if Ono is really going to Wrestle(is this confirmed by the way) but I think as much as PSU has been dominant, the top programs are just elevating. It's cool to see.