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UW isn't hiring Askren to be their head coach...he doesn't want to be a HC. He WOULD like to coach more Sr level Wrestlers...presumably because he's developed...multiple Wrestlers who could compete at the Sr Level and medal. Great High School coaches have taken jobs at the next level, right? So...you suck it up for 2 more years, let John watch Mitchell tech and pin his way to being a 3X NC who was mistaken about a RT point away from matching Cael, THEN...after finding a wealthy benefactor who is willing to donate 10-15M to the Wrestling program you; 1-Hire John Mesenbrink #1 Assistant-Mitchell Mesenbrink...doesn't really need to be explained #2-Zach Tanelli #3-I don't know, find a big guy RTC-Askren steps back in there. He can keep AWA going and growing and you can entire Buchanan, Keckiesen, O'Toole would be back, Mesenbrink, in the future, Sinclair, Millard, Scholes, maybe the Mirasola(s), Clark and...several others. John Mesenbrink has gotten more out of less than anyone in HS and he got more out of more than anyone as well. He's not controversial, he'd be a big name and he basically ran a College Style program at Arrowhead. I remember hearing how they'd have morning workouts. ~1 or so of conditioning before school. Practices would be 3 hours long at night. They'd have a lot of kids quit, but the kids that didn't...you'd have kids who came out of nowhere and were 30-15 knocking off returning champs and winning State Titles. I also remember one year, Jake Sueflohn, a stud who seemed to always be in a tough weight at the NCAAs, but he was at the same weight at Jessie Thielke, one of the greatest HS Wrestlers in Wisconsin history(he gave him his only loss with a great game plan) and he also beat Alex Dieringer that year when those 3 were 3 of the best in the Country, but Sueflohn was considered the clear #3. Chances of that happening? Probably about the same as the legal BAC in Wisconsin, .08, but...you could turn it around real quickly and appease everyone. But I can't imagine John would do it while Mitchell is dog walking the field at 165.

Now post my "hidden agenda?"

Yeah, I don't believe they won't take 5X into consideration(this is my "hidden agenda). And he's never won it. I'd probably cop out and split it...but if it HAS to be one guy...the guy who pulled off...maybe a top 5 upset all-time(As in EVER sport) and the biggest in College Wrestling? At the very least, the OW should be as clear as day. Normally, beating a guy like Keckeisen would be the biggest Win, but that may have been 3rd here... And people are talking about how this is the biggest since Karelin, but...I think this is bigger. Rulon lost because he adjusted his grip. Wyatt just went out and BEAT Gable. Finished clean and then rode him out. Of course I've argued Slay-Saitiev was a bigger upset, but that's just me.

This feels like trolling... No shot anyone believes Gable was paid to lose.

I don't know so much about world views...I don't actually beleieve that Carter has that Mesenbrink 'process over results,' approach, but Hendrickson being the Air Force guy is pretty equal. I said Hendrickson would get my vote...but you point out it's not about Pins and...now you have "hidden agendas!" (I am actually a deep state agent working to convince people with no actual say in the award that I'd give it to Hendrickson only to fool them into thinking Starocci SHOULD win it...if I'm being honest...but I don't want to blow my cover!)

Because it wasn't the first thing that came up when I posted it? LOL...why don't YOU tell ME why I didn't post that? What hidden agenda other than saying I'D give it to Hendrickson, but that Pins are not THE criteria? By all means, please enlighten me as to this "hidden agenda?"

That's a "Janky" website? And...yes, OBVIOUSLY I copy and pasted. Why not take it directly from the source.

And it literally says, Why don't you all go to the Hodge Page and READ the actual criteria....

Here ya go. From the Dan Hodge Foundation Itself. Now...AGAIN, not saying don't give it to Wyatt. He checks those criteria and did something NOBODY thought he could do...but Carte did something never been done and...he has accomplished quite a bit himself.

No...it's not. That has LONG since changed. I'd give it to Hendrickson but one of the criteria is literally PAST CREDENTIALS. 5 TIMES he's been a National Champ and had a higher bonus rate while also beating a undefeated National Champ. So...sure, give it to Hendrickson, but PLEASE stop acting like in 2025 it's a pinning award. It's the Wrestling Heisman award.

Jesus...all you guys were bored during THESE finals! I thought they were incredible. Yeah, you're running in the 3rd period up by 3, but...there were a lot of attempts. Plus, we all know that matches of this caliber of Wrestler is going to be VERY close and guys are going to want to be VERY careful about a bad shot. The Semis ARE better, you're right, the Finals are usually more...I wouldn't say boring, but not as wild. But Starocci, the Buchannan-Barr match, Hamiti-O'Toole, Mesnbrink shot all night, I thought '41 and '49 were both great. And then...Hendrickson vs Steveson and...the biggest upset in NCAA History! Y'all have short ass attention spans! That was an awesome finals to cap a GREAT weekend!

...not once did I say you were. That you know what the condition is for buildup at the base of your dick of vagina that stinks and is...commonly referred to as dick cheese, you told me you have THAT condition!

That IS a touch line to walk. Cormier does not even attempt to. He's not suited to College Wrestling. He's really good at MMA, but he's just openly talking about his kids and cheering and having fun...which is cool, I like him, just not sure he's the BEST for the main broadcast. I didn't hear Hidlay. What was he on? I think Sparks is great(sans the stupid resilite references...). So as good as everyone says Hidlay is...sounds like a great duo. Maybe go Sparks, Gibbons and then Hidlay. The play by play guy, the coach and old school and the guy more informed about the modern group of grapplers.

This...is pure...fing poetry!

Yeah, that'd make it tougher, but sometimes tough decisions need to be made. You'd have to make Nolf kinda the coach in waiting and give him some leeway.

I THOUGHT they tested the top 8. All AAs. Maybe that's not the case anymore...but I'm skeptical it's widespread. I HAVE wondered about an athlete or two who jumped up a couple classes and didn't have acne and now needs blood time for it, but I don't want to be a douche and signal a kid out for nothing other than growing into a weight class and getting bigger.

Yeah...maybe. Or maybe if they didn't have Kasak last year they'd have tried to get Van Ness ready for the NCAAs and he'd have been all beat up going into it. You're also forgetting Lee who was ALWAYS wrestling with a torn or two torn ACLs and rarely healthy and then guys like Kemerer who was pretty banged up when he beat and then subsequently lost to Starocci...among others. I do think Iowa needs to modernize their training and maybe a little less trying to run through a wall, but I don't think you can prevent injuries when you intentionally put your own knee into an unnatural position in an attempt to defend a shot. As for Smith, Missouri isn't a Wrestling Powerhouse(as a HS state). It's solid, but not great. So...yeah, I don't know, I feel like they have done a good job staying competitive and they have a guy who I believe COULD step right in for 'O'Toole at 174 and be a NC contender next year...if Sinclair is wiling to cut to the best weight for him, they get Elam back as well as other young horses and...what, 8 top 100 recruits. And I agree, you lose him, maybe you become a Wisconsin type program? He's built a VERY good program that is top 5-8 in it's best years and I don't think this year is a good reason to dump Smith. I also don't think they have the resources others do. And when I say the others, I'm talking about the blue bloods, Michigan, Cornell and a few others just a tier below the 4 blue bloods(PSU, Iowa, Okie St, Ohio State). Iowa State is in that next tier also. I think Missouri can get back to competing with those programs. The top 4 are...kinda in their own group in terms of resources. And then Nebraska. I think that's what Missouri...with the right group can aim for. That type of upside. Not sure where to put ASU at this point and I'm forgetting other good programs, but I do think PSU is making other teams better and Mizzou just had a down year or couple years.

I also find those who talk about their large manhood are overcompensating. All I can say...I can drink a bottle of water with one hand...which I think just means average, but...what do I know! Oh Christ dude...no, that's NOT what I mean. It IS very telling that you knew what the term for...basically dick cheese was off the top of your head. Never have I heard the word "smegma" male when talking about...basically...having a dirty dick! You're telling on yourself here brother! It's like when the guy brags about NOT having crabs or STDs while telling you the medical terms for them(whilst having no MD before their name) and how they feel or how much it hurts to piss with...whatever it is you get that makes it hurt to piss. I don't know what to tell ya brother. Carry some wet wipes around or...Christ, do something. That is NASTY. And this following your claim you have a horse dick? So you're basically telling me you could provide all the cheese for a VERY disgusting Lasagna?

They should be favored at 2 and then Lovett needs to get an early TD IMO. And then get out on the bottom. I haven't been super impressed by Henson(relative to a guy who could win 3 titles). I had SVN winning...and I'm still not sure what to think of that match. It seemed like SVN, if he just took a little more time on a couple attempts, he finishes and makes that a REAL close match. But...he got down 11-0 as Lovett just dominated him early. So...just kina interesting.

I thought that was just nonsense. I'm not a PSU fan...though often accused of one and I've argued...a LOT about how I think Starocci gets a lot less respect than he has earned, but...JB said NOTHING but the painfully obvious. I thought he said he'd shoot on the good leg and try and make him use the bag leg to push or defend with. Suuuch a basic take and I didn't see anyone other than Bo Nickal whine about it. I actually thought it was more the Mitchell Mesenbrink match that got a little physical when the PSU fans booed him after he gave Mesenbrink an extra shove out of bounds(Which is ironic as Mesenbrink does that himself constantly). I get what you're saying, that's why people don't like him, but I think it's just pettiness from PSU fans that I don't recall actually saying much on here.

Yeah, but he didn't. In fact, he gave him a TON of credit, said he loved his attitude and then when Cormier(who...seems like he takes this a bit more casually and has a few beers while doing it) brought up their match, he gave him credit for just constantly attacking and his belief in himself(Mesenbrinks). I think it's funny what people don't like in Wrestling. Aside from hearing the word "resilite," or anyone Scottish or who calls Wrestling a "fight," I can't say I've heard someone that bothered me. Some of you are bothered by...a whole lot!

I'm finding myself...still being annoyed with you and not liking AJ Ferrari. Guess I don't do as well with change!

I'm not always sure what these emojis mean, but...that's a fist in solidarity!

The ONLY thing that could have made it better would have been if Trephan would have finished that single on Gable, made that a closer match and then if Romney could have gotten out and gone to the OT. That was such a good match. Oh, and if Fugitt gets that early TD and then DOESN'T give up the 5 with seconds left in the 2nd for the decisive margin. If I'm being greedy, I'd have loved to have seen Haines get a TD and then Hamiti have to go back on offense and just watch them battling and throwing haymakers at each other(figuratively).

LEAST surprising post of the day, you picking AGAINST the 4X National Champ going for a 5th and then Mitchell...Mesenbrink, both on the team you root for. And the biggest lock is probably at 197, right? Buchanan is gonna beat Barr? If Gable would have transferred to Penn State This year, your list would go Gable, Starocci and then Mesenbrink. I don't think Keck winning is that unrealistic. I think it's about a 10% chance. But you calling it, that was about a 99.999% chance.