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Gee... that was a LONG time ago in a quickly developing sport. You know what else? All those guys were also NCAA wrestlers. Could there be something there? Chael and Couture sure shot a lot of doubles! Might be an NCAA thing? Also interesting: Couture multiple losses to NCAA wrestlers Lesnar and Lidell. Sonnen with losses to NCAA wrestlers Evans and Ortiz. Mark Madsen's UFC career looks to be derailed. The Olympic Greco medalist was just choked out by American high school wrestler Grant Dawson. I think wrestling is a great base, but all of the mentioned Americans who have had success are guys who wrestled high school and college. They have great ability to hold people down, for one thing. BTW Kevin Jackson was a champ in the #2 American organization at the time. Alger and Jackson both won the wrestling portion of the fight,; both were arm barred. (Inoue, who beat Alger, actually submitted Couture with an armbar too- Greco couldn't save him)

I like Greco. I wouldn't say that it is the most successful style in MMA.

Excuses are for wusses.

True. I was referring to Merkles (which is a side headlock).

Ummm... neutral? If you try that on top, its a point and a restart. Please- buy a rulebook.

I believe that was locked hands. It is also possible that the refs (and coaches) missed a similar one late in Bonnacorsi/Trumble. For whatever reason, even good wrestling minds miss locked hands on chest wrap type positions. I am talking about chest wraps that happen in flurries when one man is already on top. I think it is because they look like neutral positions, but the top man is still in control, so it should be called a clasp.

None of those techniques involve clasping around the torso or legs without an arm encircled.

Wasn't Parris was on the leg and should have been on a 5 count?

Not as much as I do...

Thought the face looked familiar! It was the Luther College part that threw me off. I still think that part was unnecessary. Also, unlike Minnow, I will admit to an L! (at least a little)

So I half-apologize to Minnow, however he should not have said "Luther College."

OK, that makes sense. But then he says "Luther College."

Actually, that is the scandal! No D3 coach voted for Yianni!

I know. Typical Minnow. Check now and screenshot. It'll be deleted soon. Guy acts like he knows wrestling, then assassinates a guy's character with lies.

Minnow has put the Luther College (d3) coach on blast, claiming he is responsible.

Agreed. One very rare exception: This year, I watched as a kid who was down 10-0 successfully hit a leg cradle in a scramble. The opponent worked his way off his back, but looked as if someone had taken his batteries out. He just had no energy. The score was now 10-5, and the leg cradler then immediately hits a crossface cradle to win by pin in the third. The other wrestler stumbled off the mat, embarrassed and perhaps broken. I have no doubt he was the better wrestler, but fell victim to some unfortunate circumstances. Otherwise, yeah... you're generally a jerk.

I have wrestled against athletes from Canadian college teams and also know someone who went to university in Canada because he wanted to wrestle for a freestyle team.

Col. Burr retired from duels undefeated, so I guess it is as "good" a loss as any.

I was going based on the previous post that counter the win over Eierman as four wins over all-Americans.

That sounds like 4!

How many wins over national champs?

There is nothing in your statement that I can disagree with.

Indeed it is, but there were some solid athletes. There are still some smaller people worldwide, just not many in the USA.

I remember some great matches involving Alexis Vila and Vugar Orujov (Vito's dad). Also some good Koreans and Japanese.