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Sujeet pretty much destroyed Johnny D, did he not?

There is. Being down 10-2 then rattling off 11 straight points to finish the match is more impressive than running off 13 of the next 15 points.

I agree with you. KOT is a maybe, and JB is also a maybe. The last time JB wrestled the Iranian who ended up taking bronze, he lost at the 2024 Worlds. And while Usmanov won in 2023, JB didn’t even make the team that year - father time is undefeated. As for Dake, he’s an unknown to me as well. Too many of his matches are uncomfortably close for me to call him a clear upgrade.

Who is better than Levi, domestically, at 79 KG?

Trent was never down 8-0.

It could end up being like what Cardenas had to do this last season. They do their four, then transfer out for their last one. What would stop them from doing five, if they play the system? Only wrestle the last semester their Junior and Senior seasons, so they're still 'only' there for eight semesters? How is the rule actually written?

I saw something of this the other day from Bielema (Illinois current HFC). I think if there is some sort of possibility that it could be a reality within the next few seasons, then the guys who can go now, should. Let the best man wrestle.

No, it's both mats still. It was. Looks to be over now.

I do. I don't want to act like I understand what his training situation will be, but a huge reason for our successes our that our college kids go through the grind of a season. That mentality carries over to their training style. We gas so many people out because of it. That is a tool that we don't utilize at the highest level in MGR. The argument that there are D1 athletes doing it is rather moot. When I say D1, I mean the pinnacle. Look at the AA at 184lbs, for example last season. The Top 6 placers all wrestled some form of MFS this season. Either WTT, Pan Ams, Worlds (age level or otherwise) or some form of overseas worlds. 1st - Starocci, WTT 86 KG 2nd - Keckeisen, WTT 86 KG 3rd - McEnelly, U20s 86 KG 4th - Plott, WTT 92 KG 5th - Foca, Dominican Republic WTT 6th - Smith, Pan Ams 86 KG I am sure a lot of it is systemic. The same procedures aren't used for picking who goes where (Pan Ams, ranking series, etc). The MFS procedures are working to draw our best, most capable athletes from NCAA D1 Folkstyle. MGR needs to mimic that. It will take time to catch up. Probably a decade, or more... but it will be worth the try.

You insert our best athletes to focus on the sport, the potential ceiling is raised. How is that not what I was trying to get towards? How would you do it? How would you promote we get better? We have had at least two great prospects that decided to forgo college wrestling to focus on it the last ~ten years(Bey and Hancock). Bey continues to show raw flashes of pure awesomeness... but underperforms. When do we accept that he isn't underperforming, he is performing to his developed peak? Hancock? He decided the support and coaching wasn't there so he completely left the sport. He saw the writing on the wall. Those two focused on only MGR after high school and both would have likely had rather stellar careers if they had gone the D1 route. I don't see how their ceilings could, or would, have been any lower than they already have been (1 medal between the two of them).

He was supposed to do a dual, but I don't remember if he actually did it (he was injured at the time, iirc).

I never said that. What I said was I wish our Tier 1 athletes, the ones with the most success at our American Folkstyle, would focus on Greco. The reasoning is because what we have now is not working. If you are okay with getting zero medals and not even getting the chance to compete for medals (because we don't/aren't), then your opinion on the matters very little.

I wish Bey would have gone the NCAA D1 route.

Greco proposal: Remove the par terre for Greco. Make those rules the same as MFS. Shot clock. If it is 1-1, last point scored wins. Simple. Also, make it 10 points for a Tech. I know it is separate styles, but if you eliminate some of the things that create separation, there might be others who give it a go. There are many rules that could be blended, that just aren't.

Man. When I heard Dean and some other prominent D1 guys might decide to go the Greco route years back, I was excited to see how we could improve. We need something.

What doesn't make sense? Some schools know they have a good 'pincher' for it. Other schools don't chance it. This runs rampant at every level there are alpha certifications. Some will do it as early as they can, and some make their guys get down to the weight and have ZERO fails along the hydration portion of it (interesting, huh?). It is also why we see stark contrasts between teams like Iowa State and Penn State with their certifications. Hell, the reason for the failures of the gents for Iowa State, I would wager, are due to hydration.

Ragusin isn't down to weight. He weighed 133.1-141.0. Also, they are still held to the 1.5% per week after the initial test.

Blaze certified at 184, so I don't think so.

No. It's what they weighed during yhe certification weight. Some schools get them down to weight for it, others don't.

Different animals. Two reasons: - Folkstyle is not MFS - Stanich barely beat Lemley and Orine as well.

It was tongue-in-cheek. Much like Kazakhstan didn't stand a chance to win it when it was in Kazahkstan. Then they went and did this in 2019...

Tazh's complacency this season makes me wonder if it is "I am too good for this." or "Damn that cut was tough." His training partner looks like he could easily make 97 KG and reciprocate to Tazh going up. Tazh would get destroyed by Zare right now.

Should we be expecting Bahrain to take home the team title, then?

While folks consider whom to choose, I would like to make sure it is well understood and respected that weight classes exist for a reason. The answer should be Gray all day.

It is just very hard for me to unsee the destruction Mendez put on him. I would think that Hardy will do the same.