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This isn't true. Nowhere was this stated anywhere.

It was never an option or plan for him to return to 141 this season. Bartlett was there. He has since outgrown even 149lbs, so why would he go down. Barr has not outgrown 184lbs. Barr was noticeably smaller than every AA contender he stepped on the mat with this year, save for Salazar and Munoz. Neither of which were true 197lbers (Salazar weighing in at 194lbs Day 1 at B1Gs shows that). ____________________________ Sample size of one is all we have to go off of though, gents. We can ignore it if we want, but it is a fact that there has only been one guy to go up in weight for them for a season then go down - in the Cael Sanderson era at Penn State. There is also no reason to assume he would do worse. Not sure you gents are recalling last offseason. Aside for his loss to Sinclair at the Open, he beat everyone, including McEnelly via 6-2 and 4-1 decisions at two different tournaments (US Open, WTT), before avenging his loss to Sinclair in the Best of Three at the WTT.

Penn State's only other example is Bartlett, which proves the opposite of what you said.

Two of his losses were late February (Ventresca in the dual and at ACCs). Thank you for putting this all together. It is easier for someone to nitpick than to put the work in, and I hope you understand there are many more eyes that enjoy this sort of thing than it might seem.

I'm not trying to be critical, I was just pointing out. At a glance it appears that many wrestlers are missing matches against D1 competition from each weight. I hear you on not having an easy, or convenient way to pull results/data.

I did. How do you explain Robinson having a record of 13W-1L?

@Pablo Haven't looked past the first few lines of 125lbs, but your records are incorrect.

Not really my intention. My intention was to point out that @BACcalling @VakAttack's character in to question is baseless, ignorant, and shows his own lack of character. Edit: To be clear, I am not saying you lack character, BAC. That statement exhibits it, though. I don't believe you to be ignorant, either.

He deleted it once Ryder entered the portal, but it was 'Ryder all day.' Or very similar and to that narrative.

You clearly don't know Vak. As far as people go, he is probably the least appreciated person for what he does IRL on these forums. Were he dead he'd be a mfckn Saint.

Do you think he Redshirts or goes out the gate at 141?

What states are putting out the elite talent? Start there and work your way out.

Massoumi is like 6'6" yeah?

Thought Ryder was a NY guy, like Duke?

DT took him to Worlds with him last year and had great things to say about him for his 184lb prospects. I think we might see a similar jump as we saw with Mendez when he went from 133 to 141.

I wouldn't be upset. That brotato one is pretty cool.

She won't be wrong. He will start at least one dual for them.

Mine is about 20% accurate, to be clear. More wishful thinking. I am still trying to wrap my mind how they work Garvin in without having a Mantanona shrink down.

Michigan 125 - Moore (UNC transfer) 133 - Ragusin 141 - Lemley 149 - McNeil (UNC transfer) 157 - Cattrabone/Gilcher 165 - Older Mantanona 174 - Garvin (Stanford Transfer) 184 - Younger Mantanona 197 - Walters 285 - Ghadiali (Campbell Transfer) I could see them chasing a 197 in the portal, but I have a feeling they let Walters give it a go. Another option at 125 is Spidle (if he cares to drop - which he might). Options at 197, were they not to go the Walters route, would be Stewart (VTech) or Soldano (Rutgers). Curious what they do if the smoke of Garvin coming ends up being true. Supposed to be him at 174. Does that mean Mantanona goes up to 184 or down to 157?

Going up two weights?

Not everyone translates well when they go up in weight. His success was at 61 KG.

To be clear, so do I.

The ultimate 'win' for me is Max (Ben) Askren takes the HC job at Wiscy, the Mirasola's transfer there - as well as a couple other AWA gents. Providing, of course, that Focus heads to Penn State for HWT.

I was asking. I find it hard to believe there are only three matches between them.

Him or Flynn to 133? Who you think?