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In the world of combat sports, they would be separated by one weight class - 155lbs and 170lbs. It is fair if they both accept the bout, whether you like it or not. Palacio is nearly 6' tall and was known to be longer when he dropped to 157lbs from 165lbs. It would be easier to assume that he would fill out his frame - which he has, than it would be for him to get himself a beer gut - which he hasn't done. Bo hasn't grown since his Soph season in college. He just quit cutting weight. They're two animals from different sides of the sword. Were this match to happen at... say 190lbs? I bet they both weigh in within a couple pounds of 190lbs. As far as your weight now VS a college wrestler at that weight? I wrestled 134lbs nearly 30 years ago. My weight class now would be 141lbs, which would be the new 134lbs after the +7lbs. It would take me about an hour to get to 141lbs. Sounds like a 'you' thing... I jest, brothaman. I don't think it's a fair wrestling match because of the caliber of their wrestling. Add in that Bo has the larger frame and has been wrestling a higher weight class while being active in combat sports and I think it's a bloodbath. I do love that Palacio is willing to follow through, unless it's with Askren - which he might be willing to do now.

This was, more or less, the answer I was wanting put out there.

Palacio doesn't weigh 157lbs. They are probably closer in weight than we think.

Bo is a 170lber. He shouldn't be having a hard time making 185 with his physique.

How? Portal doesn't open for Oklahoma w/ him leaving.

Fckn LOVE this.

This is something that follows all sports and their successful athletes and/or teams. The ole "They are too good, so they must be cheating!" shenanigans.

Get 'em Brain!

Does this pertain to a specific era?

Hawkes over Stoner at 285lbs?

I don't disagree. I do think they're better options at 165lbs, though.

Well, let's see him earn the spot then? Wrestlestat favors Voinovich.

What about Paniro or Zerban at 165lbs?

Yes. They both maintain to this day that they were in the right.

After seeing Caliendo, Hall, and Bearclaw lose to the likes of Scott, Blaze, and Jacques at 74 KG (163lbs) - I am not convinced dropping to 157lbs from 165lbs is better than going up to 174lbs. Caliendo has the horse to go 174lbs and would only have Haines to contend with, really, rather than a slew of contenders and the unknown of the cut. Is Haines at 174 > Mesenbrink at 165? Even if equal, do you take the chance because you know how a Monster Mitch match goes 10/10 time - it ends in the L.

My 'thinking' he could go 174 is that he has a different kind of monster to go through than Monster Mitch. I don't think he's the same animal at 157 as he is at 165. I don't think it makes any sense.

Iowa 125 - Peterson 133 - Ayala 141 - Bailey 149 - K. Voinovich, Block, or Rhodes 157 - V. Voinovich, Estrada (RS) 165 - Caliendo, Kennedy 174 - Kennedy, Caliendo 184 - Focus 197 - Endene, Ludington (RS) 285 - Keuter, Fleshman (just b/c)

The kid needs to go where he will have that help. If that is with his cousin, J'den for a season (unenrolled and focused on MFS), Kevin Jackson (UofM), UNI, or Mizzou, I am happy. Hell, Lock Haven, were he to 'need' to go there is fine by me, too.

Lock Haven?

I can't figure out the new damage Hawkeye forum. Age if a fickle bitch.

Sadly, I hope he gets the help he needs. That said, Michigan makes sense as well. Cox as praised Kevin Jackson in his ability to not just lead and coach, but to be there for him when he needed him the most - every time.

I can't imagine the tension in the air over there right now. I hope we can all see who each federation determines as their best wrestler, per age group, at each worlds event. Unfortunately, for us, Earth politics effect everything and any/all wrestling that we get is a luxury for us fans.

One of the Tate brothers offering to cover the lung transplant.

I was too. Were Starocci to mention someone who mentions to someone who mentions to someone... who is to say who is safe in that scenario? I was defending them remaining anonymous. That said, as you also said - he (Starocci) knows what he did to who and when. They aren't going to be anonymous were Starocci to want to take an aggressive, retaliatory approach.

I don't think the coaching staff would have simply stood by and allowed any wrestler to act however they wanted and plausible deniability might not even be a factor here. It’s possible Bartlett brought something up - maybe hinting at events without stating them outright - and wasn’t explicitly shut down, but may have felt shut down. Speaking up against a teammate, especially someone considered a brother by most of your closest friends (and by you, at one point), might require more than just courage to fully follow through. This isn’t a defense of anyone’s actions - just an attempt to suggest how things might have played out. It’s ambiguous for a reason: I imagine it was just as ambiguous in the moment, especially to those in authority.