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Because you are an idiot. There is a difference.

Nope.

I intentionally avoid interacting with you when you say stupid and generally idiotic crap because I don't want to hurt your feelings again. I know you're basically harmless. If you keep barking up this tree, we can go at it. We know how that ends, though.

What are you talking about? Me not wanting to dive in to a debate with you because you are genuinely unintelligent is not me 'breaking' so easily. I didn't want to be mean and feel bad when you actually do break and ask why I am being mean (again). Take it as whatever sort of result you want, but it absolutely is not a win.

Okay, you're an idiot then. If you put a piece of bread up to each ear to see what sounds it made, you'd be an idiot sandwich.

Vega up at 149 against SVN is a toss-up. Forrest and Blaze are a toss-up. Don't be an idiot and try to refute that.

Not to beat the piss here, but you gave OSU every toss-up. Even 184 is a toss-up. 125 - PSU clear favorite. 133 - Toss-up (given to OSU) 141 - Toss-up (given to OSU) 149 - Toss-up (given to OSU) 157 - Toss-up (given to OSU) 165 - PSU clear favorite 174 - Toss-up (give) 184 - Toss-up (given to OSU) 197 - PSU clear favorite 285 - Toss-up (given to OSU, also Mirasola is ~6-0 against Ross lifetime).

I absolutely would take Hilton in over Sement. Higher ceiling and just plain better. Cat is smaller than Lewan when Lewan was at 157. Cat was also 149 during his redshirt, so this last year was his first at 157lbs. If he bulks, it is to be full-size 157lber, not full-size 165lber.

I have a feeling they will force them to sit out an entire calendar year if they do that.

Anyone cares to compile a list of this currently, actually qualified for WTT (unless it already exists)?

He didn't say when, though. And you say it as if he is the authority on it. Have you met Cam? I have, and his father. Both of them are of the cloth that they will do what is best for the team. Cam saying he would go 165lbs was him saying that is where he would go, if the team needed him there. That wasn't him saying he was for certain going to be 165lbs next season.

Lol

Geog beat him this year 10-4.

He hasn't finished his eligibility yet, so how could he apply for the medical?

For the record, I do agree. I don’t think Shumate does, though. He is grinding away, man.

For what it is worth, from what I am hearing now, there may be more smoke to Zepeda and Gilcher both seeking medicals. That outs Cat at 157lbs for another season. Roll out Peterson or Cosby at 165lbs and make a call once they both hit their five matches on who gets the go. Lemley at 141 and Hilton at 149 make the most sense. Don't sleep on Hilton.

He officially has one right now, but is going to try to get 2024-25 back on a medical. He went down at Cliff Keen (12/6) that season.

Is it because they are trying to bring back the guy who tried to kill his wife?

You're taking this far too personal. I said it was silly saying that Shumate can't win the spot. It is silly. That isn't really refutable when you take both of their entire careers in to consideration as well. Before the injury you're speaking of, Rogotzke was 9W-6L on the season that year. Not exactly screaming 'contender' there. Look at these screenshots. Neither scream contender, which means both will get their chance.

I would shoot Pete an email.

I think we see Rath starting somewhere. He was the big name coming in.

If (when) the 5 for 5 go in to effect, there are stipulations when wrestlers enter the portal under DNC. Not sure the specifics, but both sides (wrestler and new school) will need to prove there was no tampering.

The last time they went to NCAAs, which was the 2024-25 season, Shumate made it to R12 at 197lbs whereas Rogotzke went 0-BBQ at 184lbs. The weight being considered for both is 197lbs. Weight classes exist for a reason. I am not claiming, or even predicting, that Shumate wins the spot. I said that it is silly to say that he can't. Furthermore, Shumate absolutely believes the spot is his, or he would transfer out as well. His performance at 92 KG at the Open (and Rogotzke's withdrawal from even competing there - he was entered at 92 KG as well), show that Shumate is in a better spot to perform right now. He just be as the runner-up at 197lbs six weeks after NCAAs.

He just placed third in a weight class that included at least eight AA and at least fifteen NQ, albeit in MFS. I know styles make matches and that Freestyle =/= Folkstyle, but to say he can't 'take the spot' when it wasn't even Rogotzke's to lose is silly.

Think he meant the bumps as a joke.