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You’re assuming Ryder doesn’t beat out Welsh?

Well apparently he’s not there (Columbus) at all, although may have just been for the weekend. I believe he did say that he’d probably be in State College in a few weeks though (not sure if “a few” is ~6 or so when most semesters are over, or less than that).

If we are to assume Barr is staying at 197, it’s been mentioned that the smaller Mirasola is going to have a tough time getting in the lineup for a few years. So if there is any chatter about that causing them both to leave, that’s where a guy like Feldman would make sense.

Yes he is a huge PSU homer. But even as not a PSU fan, I particularly enjoy his podcasts with Willie (and Cenzo before that), you just have to ignore his predictions because he will pick PSU guys in every tossup, but he doesn’t pretend to be an expert. He also loves to name drop his marketing clients (I believe that was how he first became a fan, he was working with a bunch of wrestling people particularly from PSU with his marketing company then started following them, so I wouldn’t say he was necessarily a “bandwagon” fan, and I think you can never have enough people making wrestling content). The interviews are hit or miss though, and he’s now done a few live commitments but pretty sure every single one has been to PSU.

He seems to be implying he doesn’t think it was so voluntary. Don’t know the whole story

OK that’s what I thought you meant. The kids probably wouldn’t quit, but many coaches and refs would. And a lot of the ones that would remain wouldn’t be that knowledgeable about it.

So just change college to freestyle?

What are you suggesting? Get rid of folkstyle completely at all levels? We would lose probably 50% or more of our youth coaches and referees.

No, I just find it odd multiple people have commented something along the lines of “are you calling Welsh a liar,” when he probably did not lie about anything, but what he said doesn’t rule out that there could have been some shadiness happening from the PSU side. Honestly the only thing that surprised me was that he specifically said what he’s getting paid to go to PSU was “a lot” less than he was offered by other schools. I feel like most likely (but who really knows) in other situations such as Nagao they may be paying less but not “a lot” less.

How about one year like Teemer and Buchanan?

Did Welsh say he had no contact with PSU prior to entering the portal? Obviously he’s not going to admit it, but he probably doesn’t want to lie either. I thought he just said he hadn’t officially decided. If he was club teammates with some of the guys on the team I’m guessing he at least mentioned to them that he was thinking about it in the beginning of this season when the earlier rumors started, and then word of that likely spread elsewhere. No clue if that would include the coaching staff or the PSU version of Nicolls.

Basch really needs to have someone commit to a school other than PSU on his show so that there’s actually some suspense

I have a bad memory so maybe it happened, but I don’t recall that either. I could certainly see saying Welsh would need to be a TBD. But the total argument doesn’t really make sense anyway, since Kemerer is one of the best to never win a title, and Mekhi did win one. Labriola I guess may not have the best resume of finalists but he was a 4x AA.

Yup, even guys that prefer freestyle like Vito (on recent Mike Mal podcast for example) have said nothing is changing now, basically we’d have to go back in time if we really wanted to change it.

I don’t remember this, most people were talking about the top half of that bracket being stacked with Starocci/Mekhi/Griffith

You’re probably right in that they only really need to figure out one year with Welsh/Ryder. I’m guessing the loser of the wrestleoff gets “injured” and gets a medical RS

Small NIL collective lol. I’m confident PSU pays very well in general, although I’d believe it if they didn’t offer Welsh in particular a whole lot since they don’t really need him.

Cannon was hurt in the beginning of the year, I don’t think it took them long once he came back to go with him over Sasso. I don’t know what happened with Welsh. I know someone said earlier Ryan stated he could have competed for a starting spot, but maybe he said only at 184 and not 174?

He pretty much agreed with one of my posts when he said something like “if i can’t start at Penn State, then I’m not accomplishing my goals of being the best in the world.” But he also said he was frustrated watching his tOSU teammates compete when he wasn’t. So it will be interesting to see what happens if by chance he doesn’t start and if he gets similarly frustrated. I didn’t realize he trained at the same club or something as Ryder?

Elon Musk did what looked like a Nazi salute. Bill Nye did something that didn’t look at all like what Musk did, but OP seemed to think it did

So like wrestling, Big Ten teams are some of the hardest hit?

He’s at least got connections that have connections at Iowa. And in regards to this off-season he does have connections at Rutgers that may have insight into the situation with Peterson, although I don’t believe he actually put out a number that he was supposedly offered. Also, I’ve said this before but I didn’t believe the $500k numbers at first last year either. But then Willie repeated it which to me gave it more credibility.

IANAL, but I would say an individual choosing to wear a MAGA hat is different than seemingly an entire team parading with a flag

Isn’t that what the original post of this thread did? Did you criticize them?

So you think someone with connections to Iowa’s program is intentionally sharing fake numbers? If so, why? It’s not like they’re scaring people away from offering similar amounts so Iowa gets the guys, based on the Nagao situation we pretty much know Penn State guys are in all likelihood getting comparable amounts