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Gotcha. Yeah as someone else said earlier I’m definitely in favor of making it easier for the government to fire people for legitimate disciplinary or performance reasons.

Are you talking about this? What is it even talking about? Is this just about people working from home? Kinda hard to tell, it’s a poorly written opinion piece.

But that’s not what Elon is claiming. He’s claiming people are getting paid for a job but don’t actually exist.

Are there illegals working for the federal government with fraudulent ID? And the jobs illegals are working…they’re actually working. Again, I don’t think Elon really thinks there’s more than 10 or so “fake” people. I think he wants to use people’s responses and run it through Grok to determine if it thinks they’re valuable, and if not, fire them. But that’s what people were upset about in the first place, so he backtracked to “I just want to prove they’re real!” Paywall, but this looks like it’s about people continuing to work remotely after Covid?

Do you acknowledge that Vance was wrong when he said Zelenskyy hadn’t said thank you?

It’s not a whataboutism, I actually addressed the point: it’s legal, but it’s still silencing people. Several here like bringing up whataboutisms without actually addressing the point raised…like you did earlier

Conservatives: most government workers (well the ones that aren’t patriots) are worthless and won’t be able to get a job outside of the government Also conservatives: never underestimate the ability of government employees to pull off a highly sophisticated scam

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Not what the thread is about. I believe that’s what Elon was trying to get at, but he lied by saying it’s more about “making sure they actually exist”

Yes, those are all fairly common forms of fraud. Much more common I’d bet then somehow having a fake job

Making up a fake company is a lot different than making up a fake person. How exactly would one pull this off? Wouldn’t these imaginary people have supervisors, so they’d need to be in on it?

lol

That’s the company the Eagles fan that harassed the female Packers fan worked for. We’ve come full circle

lol at calling that “litigating.” Pretty much all he was saying was that in the past Putin had not honored ceasefires. I watched the whole thing and Vance is definitely the reason it went south. He barely talked, and I think the second time he did was when he started complaining about Zelenskyy being disrespectful and “litigating,” and accusing him of not saying thank you during this specific meeting (which he did, so Vance was also wrong there). Zelenskyy was not disrespectful prior to that IMO, but he was after that when he made the implication that the US would get attacked if they didn’t stop Russia. That was the point that Trump rightfully got upset. But it probably doesn’t get to that point if Vance isn’t such a dbag.

It’s legal, but they’re still being silenced. Kinda like how it is legal for Facebook and Twitter to silence people.

Kasak

Article in the OP disagrees

The point is that this administration was trying to claim they were different…

No it was literally in the same sentence

I specifically said much of the money she receives for her work is donated to charity…

You guys really love your whataboutisms huh

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