I think to the topic of Iowa not developing guys or making them worse I dont think either is inherently true. I do think they are very bad at developing guys in certain aspects of wrestling. For instance when RBY took away Austins ability to get inside control they did not seem to be able to figure out another attack for Austin to go to or even another way for him to force rby into a position where he could then regain inside control. He did go leftie single but roman was constantly grabbing ankles and either scoring or that position would get stalemated but that seemed like a position they could have improved upon as well. Where they are very good I would say is guys do not seem to get ridden very often there. Austin was very bad on bottom his true freshman year and even his first year there but improved upon that a ton. Across the board they are also incredibly sound positionally and in their head hands defense. My biggest gripe would probably be their inability to scramble past one or two sequences. Aside from Dpencer, Eiermen, Siebrecht, Kemerer who I all believe had that ability going into the program s/o mike eirmen, young guns and whoever siebrecht trained with in HS.