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I think even the less talked about guys like Routledge can make an impact right away, he looked incredible at ironman and given the recent college landscape that's enough for me to think he could go and have success really early. Henson took 5th there and then 5th at NCAA's the next year.

I think suber can sting Buch if he wrestles like he did against Salazar because he is so tricky in scrambles. If he is actively getting to legs I think he should get a few takedowns to potentially one from surber. 125 Spratley maj Cruz 4-0 133 Ayala Maj Whitcraft 4-4 141 Jamison Maj Schriever 8-4 149 Parco dec Young 8-7 157 Teemer dec Fish 10-8 165 Caliendo dec Amine 13-8 174 Hamiti Maj Kennedy 13-12 184 Plott dec Ferrari 15-13 197 Buch dec Suber 16-15 HWT Hendrickson pin Kueter 21-16

would not be shocked if thompson sucks down to 174 again and jersey robb goes 184. If they want to compete long term Dee will need to grow into 174 and Thompson go 184 or they will need a transfer with a few years. would also not be shocked if they punted next season. Excited to see what Sakamoto can do he is super super dynamic on his feet but Im not sure if one season in the room is enough time for him to learn mat wrestling.

Brands said that Angelo will use all his dates so I would assume he goes here. It's interesting though because I don't think Arnold has a chance to beat Plott I would say Angelo has a small chance. I however do not think Arnold would get Majored I think Angelo potentially could depending on Plotts shot entry and if he scouts out the leg pass stuff.

follow up question what are the thoughts about Khorramdel he nearly teched the guy from Japan who teched one of the United States golden boys at u20's I thought he looked impressive but maybe just extremely physical for the age level which does not always translate.

Saw a video of Yaz doing some proprioceptive training with his new big boy body. Really excited to see how the 97kg transition goes. Is the idea that he will have less stress on his body or he just cant make 86kg anymore?

I think Rocco will go 174 he has been wrestling 79kg and seemed kinda pissed about not wrestling it this year.

I have been trying to think about who may be able to get within 50 points of psu next year, and despite the PSU team likely being slightly weaker next year I think every other team is going to be even worse off. Iowa loses: Parco,Teemer,Buchannan Oklahoma state loses: Hamiti,Wyatt,Fish,Whitcraft,Amine,Plott Cornell, Virginia tech and Oklahoma state have very good recruiting classes, but I would think a lot of those guys redshirt or at the very least will take their lumps the first year. Stanford will be very good through the middle but weak on both ends of their lineup. Nebraska can return everyone aside from Ridge but that's probably 20 of their 60 or so points. Minnesota is in a similar position where they only lose Gable but thats probably 25+ points.

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I know we have all scratched our heads at the dual comparison tool, but Brendan McCrone is ranked third at 125 right now and I just can't figure out how that got spit out.

Both close? I saw it was 10-9 at the holiday classic.

That is a pretty nasty list, Izzy probably has a pretty damn good one for Illinois as well.

saw he took a loss to davis parrow this season whos game I am not familiar with.

I would definitely say young guns would be the next best bet but PA vs Wisconsin so I am giving the edge to Askren given the state depth. KD has Jayden James and PJ duke which is a smaller sample but they could both be generational I think. Seabolt puts out a ton of high level high school guys but they have not had the college results yet to my knowledge.

Mitchell,Keegan,Sinclair all came up in AWA as kids Im not as sure about the Mirasolas,Parker,Millard etc. All of them were very good high school wrestlers but I believe the Mirasolas,Sinclair,Parker,Keegan were the only top 25 big borders scoles and Millard may have been close? @Husker_Du would no for sure. I know that Ben's plan is to not make these kids the best junior high or even high school wrestlers, he wants them to be able to continue to improve into college and they all seem to be doing that. Mitchell took 7th at super 32 his senior year and then in the same 12months beat haines and got a silver at junior worlds. Millard beating Chittum would have been nowhere on my radar, he was good but he took a lot of losses this last year.

Not to this topic but does 141 feel a bit more wide open to you guys now? Hardy got reversed last second to lose to bartlett and Beau goes on to beat Jesse. Jesse also nearly lost to Vombaur. Now Hardy I dont think can beat Jesse those matches have not been particularly close, and Hardy is also 0-3 against Cael Happel, could Happel be in the mix? He has two bad losses in Schwartz and Tagg but as previously mentioned he has beaten Hardy,Lemley and frost x3. Alirez seems to have Beaus number hes 3-0 across free and folk and the matches have not been all that competitive, Beau and Jesse seems to be a 50/50. Hardy vs Beau is not a 50/50 but it seems like Hardy can beat him. Hardy cannot beat Jesse or Happle. Could Vombaur beat Beau? it was close until Beau cradled and pinned him last year and vombaur has gotten much better although all of beau's matches are close. Then we have Alirez who has really not wrestled anyone of note this year. I would also through in Jamison. He does not really get blown out could he sneak out a one exchange match with one of the top guys? All that to say I think seeding could be crucial at NCAA's and at a weight where I honestly had it a 2-horse race after the all-star I think it could be really interesting come March.

Messenbrink (NCAA finalist looks like he's going to be a 3x champ) Keegan (2x NCAA 4x top 3) PK (NCAA champ 4x top 3) Scoles (redshirt freshman 13-3) Mulvaney (true sophmore 10-3 NQ last year) Millard (most recent product only loss came in the opening weekend of the season 10-9, has a 9-4 win over Chittum and a 10-3 win over Siebrecht)

Huge win for Chittum, I think he matches up terribly with Meyer but if he can avoid him at nationals, I think he can win the entire thing.

I contend it's a weight issue more than anything for Joe. He took down Marinelli twice at the BF lost 11-6 at 163.4. He wrestled last year at 165 lost 2-2 to Ferrari in UTB in the ironman finals I will add Ferrari beat him soundly at who's 1 a few months prior. I am guessing 157 is because of there being no shot he sees the lineup at 165 for at least two more years but if it's a hard cut for him I doubt he is getting as much as he should out of practice on top of the in-match issues that honestly would probably be normal for a non-PSU true freshman at this point. At the end of the day, I did not see how he fit into this lineup before I saw him wrestle this season and this probably only strengthened that sentiment.

he beat lev pavlov last year and the year prior (did not give up a takedown) to win a u20 title. Pavlov won russian nats this last year and the Yarigan in a bracket with RBY in it. (RBY failed to place at the same tournament). He took down Spratley 6 times to 2 in there trials finals best of 3 as a rising senior. He has given up 3 takedowns on the season in 17 matches Carson,Walker,Peterson. Utterly dominant was probably a stretch and for the love of god do not call me a PSU faithful.

Lilledahl is the most credentialed age level competitor we have ever had aside from maybe daton but some of datons success came in college. He is a 2x world champ and 2x world silver and he has one more year of u20 eligibility. changing your opinion on luke after the Mccrone loss vs after the peterson loss makes absolutely zero sense to me. Ramos and Vrob have been 1 and 2 for me since the peterson loss and I understand using that to detract from Luke. Getting cradled by Mccrone in a match he was handling does not change my perception of him in the slightest. He is a guy who showed weaknesses on bottom in high school and is utterly dominant on his feet. Mccrone is probably the only guy at the weight that's actually a threat to turn him but their is a huge disparity in their neutral ability so unless he gets cradled again I do not really see it being an issue.

"Joe looks good, hes good" -Cael I think the only conviction I have ever heard from him

sealey has no juice at 157 not sure why he is making that weight to redshirt.

"they call me mystic cat because I predict these things" if you squint a little.

blaze put his hands up to the crowd and said something. I think that has to be what he is referring to unless he meant Saldates singular fist pump.