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No. Wrong. You are crazy if you think a bank would fork over that much money in a loan when they knew everything was a lie. What happens when it all goes bad? They lose out. Banks don't take those chances. They knew Trump was good for it based on their own investigation of his holdings. They said as much. mspart

He was not prosecuted for a crime TPT. Get it straight. This was a civil litigation because they could not prove he committed an actual crime. It was not a criminal trial. Therefore no crime. He was found liable which is all that can be found in a civil litigation. Just like he was found civilly liable for sexually assaulting a woman who couldn't remember when it happened but by golly it happened. You can't have justice when the result is predetermined. How in the world can you be held liable for doing something when the complainant can't even remember which year this supposed thing happened? You are happy this is happening to Trump and refuse to see and understand what this means for the justice system in the USA. mspart

The bank vetted him and found the loan passed muster. There was no fraud. If you don't seen this as a corrupt prosecution, you can't be helped. Again, when the system goes after one side, the natural result is when the winds shift, the other side will be gotten. This is not how this country is supposed to run. Blind lady justice and all that. mspart

Yes a judge can determine what evidence is admitted. For sure, that is how the system works. When the judge is corrupt with a predetermined result in mind, then that is not a fair use of his judgement. That is where your reasoning fails. But the judge said it. Well, the judge predetermined the result. Like the hanging judges of old. mspart

This is not about liking Trump. This is about the abrogation of the judicial system to get predetermined results based on fallacious claims. This is no different than Biden getting a pass for keeping secret document he had no business having in the first place (he was never president because he is too old and doddering and with a horrible memory, or Hillary who Comey determined that no reasonable prosecutor would take her case. Remember she had her own server upon which resided State Department documents, some classified some not. She also tried to obstruct justice by bleachbitting the server hard drive, hammered the cell phones and destroyed subpoened evidence. But no reasonable person would prosecute. So what do you have to do with classified and government property to be prosecuted. Be Trump. That's the lesson here. mspart

Here another: https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2009/12/al_gore_trips_on_artic_ice_mis.html Yes this is from the vaunted NPR: Mr Gore, speaking at the Copenhagen climate change summit, stated the latest research showed that the Arctic could be completely ice-free in five years. In his speech, Mr Gore told the conference: "These figures are fresh. Some of the models suggest to Dr [Wieslav] Maslowski that there is a 75 per cent chance that the entire north polar ice cap, during the summer months, could be completely ice-free within five to seven years." However, the climatologist whose work Mr Gore was relying upon dropped the former Vice-President in the water with an icy blast. "It's unclear to me how this figure was arrived at," Dr Maslowski said. "I would never try to estimate likelihood at anything as exact as this." Mr Gore's office later admitted that the 75 per cent figure was one used by Dr Maslowksi as a "ballpark figure" several years ago in a conversation with Mr Gore... ...Perhaps Mr Gore had felt the need to gild the lily to buttress resolve. But his speech was roundly criticised by members of the climate science community. "This is an exaggeration that opens the science up to criticism from sceptics," Professor Jim Overland, a leading oceanographer at the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said. So lies are told to convince us of something that has not been predicted. mspart

Gore predictions: 1. “Within the decade there will be no more snows of Kilimanjaro,” he said to the audience in An Inconvenient Truth. This occurred moments before he makes his prediction for Glacier National Park. Result: Alluding poorly to the title of the Ernest Hemmingway short story The Snows of Kilimanjaro, Gore was trying to claim that Africa’s tallest mountain, with a peak that stands higher than 19,000 feet, would no longer have measurable snow cover on or before 2016. As of November 2022, Snow-forecast.com, a webpage for skiers, reported that an average of 93 combined inches of snowfall (almost 8 feet) hits just the middle altitudes of Kilimanjaro during November and December. And 9 inches of combined snowfall is the average expected for the middle elevations for July and August, the lightest two-month period for snowfall on the middle part of the mountain. The upper altitudes of Kilimanjaro supposedly get pummeled with an average of 171 inches (more than 14 feet) of snow during November and December. Another 127 inches (10 more feet) is expected during April and May. The expectation for September and October is 59 inches. According to Snow-forecast, every two-month period on Kilimanjaro’s higher elevations is expected to feature well over a foot of snowfall. 2. In his history lecture on the hurricanes of 2005, Gore claimed the lesson to learn was that we had been ignoring “warnings that hurricanes would get stronger” because of human-inflicted climate change. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) hosts a regularly updated webpage titled “Global Warming and Hurricanes: An Overview of Current Research Results.” The update as of October 2022 has this to say: We conclude that the historical Atlantic hurricane data at this stage do not provide compelling evidence for a substantial greenhouse warming-induced century-scale increase in: frequency of tropical storms, hurricanes, or major hurricanes, or in the proportion of hurricanes that become major hurricanes. The NOAA lists six named hurricanes making landfall on the continental United States in 2005, including four major ones. What Gore knew (or should have known) but did not mention when he claimed there had been “a lot of big hurricanes” was that the four “major” storms of 2005 were all measured at Category 3 intensity when they made landfall. This includes the star of Gore’s presentation, the obviously devastating Hurricane Katrina that ravaged New Orleans in August 2005. Category 3 is the lowest category that still qualifies as a “major” hurricane by the NOAA’s definition. In 2006 not a single hurricane of any kind made landfall in the continental United States. And then, over the next 10 years through 2016, not a single major hurricane hit the USA. During seven of those years (2009–2015) just four total hurricanes of any kind made landfall, three of them Category 1 and one a Category 2. No comparable era of docile hurricanes appears in the NOAA records going back more than a century. This period of unprecedented calm following immediately on the heels of Gore’s hurricane hyperbole really was—to borrow his analysis— “one for the books.” If Gore proved anything at all, it was that Mother Nature might be real, with a wicked sense of humor, and she decided to spend 11 years making a mockery of his movie. Gore is a self acknowledged climatologist. Apparently he got it wrong. mspart

He did not. He valued his properties to get a loan. Any bank worth their salt will look into these valuations and determine if they are proper or not. If proper, then the loan can go through. If not, then the conditions of the loan will change or the loan will not be made. The bank testified for Trump. They made money and wanted to make more by working with Trump again. Does that sound like fraud to you? Who was defrauded? The banks made money, Trump used the loan money for purposes he had and benefitted. Win win, except it was win lose. How can you claim there was fraud when the entity supposedly defrauded claims they were not and want to do more business with that company? That there tells you the case was already decided when it was brought to trial. In fact, if he committed fraud, that is against criminal code. This was a civil case. That should also tell you something. Is there any doubt that this fine will be vastly reduced or eliminated upon appeal? No doubt. The victim in this case is the State of NY who have just lost any business investment opportunities because of the mania to get Trump. New Yorkers need to vote differently to get a different result for themselves. mspart

I do not want Trump to be President. Does that mean I shouldn't call out corrupt government/judicial operations when I see it? I am off base for calling out corruption. The judicial system is supposed to be fair and unbiased. There was no way this was fair and unbiased and it is easy to see if you will see. I'm not off base. mspart

Actually she went to tell everyone the state wouldn't go after them because they were not Trump. https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/4474774-hochul-tells-ny-businesses-not-to-fear-about-trump-verdict-nothing-to-worry-about/ “I think that this is really an extraordinary, unusual circumstance that the law-abiding and rule-following New Yorkers who are business people have nothing to worry about, because they’re very different than Donald Trump and his behavior,” Hochul responded. Outwardly saying what everyone knew. They were out to get Trump and Trump only. But the precedent has been set. https://thehill.com/business/4477608-kevin-oleary-says-he-will-no-longer-invest-in-loser-new-york-after-trump-verdict/ “This award, I mean, just leaving the whole Trump thing out of it and seeing what occurred here … And I’m no different than any other investor, I’m shocked at this,” O’Leary said in an interview Monday with Fox Business. “I can’t even understand or fathom the decision at all. There’s no rationale for it.” ...“We’re very worried, every investor is worried because where is the victim? Who lost the money? This is some arbitrary decision a judge made,” O’Leary responded. “This policy … what does this say about the bar? About the legal bar in New York? Aren’t they going to question this judge? What is this?” “I’m sorry her words fall on deaf ears to everybody,” he added. “There’s nothing she can say to justify this decision. And this has nothing to do with Trump, nothing to do with Trump. Forget about Trump, this is not a Trump situation, this is a New York problem.” And this is why Hochul felt the need to go out and say no one should be concerned. We were just after Trump because he is Trump and we hate Trump, so we railroaded him and extracted/extorted $355 million from him. We won't do that to you. You are not Trump. mspart

Well at least in Seattle, it has been ruined for the drivers because their service has been made too expensive by the Seattle law requiring a minimum wage. That's why it was called gig work. You get paid by the job. Now that job is too expensive for many that used to use it. So sales are down. It was predictable and was predicted when the Seattle City Council was considering this. Well, those mean people who have a basic understanding of economics were correct. Now the gig workers are making less. mspart

Why was someone filming that by the way? is that a joke or was that a real death we witness there? mspart

https://www.kptv.com/2024/02/19/oregon-sees-highest-fentanyl-overdose-death-increase-nation/ Oregon sees highest fentanyl overdose death increase in the nation PORTLAND Ore. (KPTV) - A new report shows that Oregon’s fentanyl overdose rate has grown 1,500% since before the pandemic, the highest rate of increase in the U.S. The data comes from records held by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control. Every state that reported fentanyl deaths saw an increase. But, Oregon’s increase of about 1,530% topped the charts, with 1,268 deaths between September 2019 and September 2023. Gee, what changed? Now Oregon is a low population state with much of it concentrated on the west side. Portland, Salem, and Eugene as the biggest cities. 4.2 million total in Oregon. Most of it is very rural and hostile climate wise. So not a lot of population outside of the big cities. For a small state to lead the nation in growth of fentanyl deaths is really something. And those researchers can't figure out why. Let's let it stay static for another 10 years and then maybe those researchers can tell a difference after thousand and thousands of people die of drug overdose. mspart

https://apnews.com/article/oregon-drug-decriminalization-law-3f851183d45e9c29609360b09e996d04 SALEM, Ore. (AP) — Democratic lawmakers in Oregon on Tuesday unveiled a sweeping new bill that would undo a key part of the state’s first-in-the-nation drug decriminalization law, a recognition that public opinion has soured on the measure amid rampant public drug use during the fentanyl crisis. The bill would recriminalize the possession of small amounts of drugs as a low-level misdemeanor, enabling police to confiscate them and crack down on their use on sidewalks and in parks, its authors said. It also aims to make it easier to prosecute dealers, to access addiction treatment medication, and to obtain and keep housing without facing discrimination for using that medication. “It’s the compromise path, but also the best policy that we can come up with to make sure that we are continuing to keep communities safe and save lives,” state Sen. Kate Lieber, a Portland Democrat, told The Associated Press. Voters passed the pioneering decriminalization law, Measure 110, with 58% support in 2020. But Democratic legislators who championed it as a way to treat addiction as a public health matter, not a crime, are now contending with one of the nation’s largest spikes in overdose deaths, along with intensifying pressure from Republicans and growing calls from a well-funded campaign group to overhaul it. Researchers say it’s too soon to determine whether the law has contributed to the state’s deadly overdose surge, and supporters of the measure say the decades long approach of arresting people for possessing and using drugs didn’t work. That last paragraph cracks me up. It's too soon? Har har har. https://www.opb.org/article/2024/01/28/data-show-overdoses-deaths-rising-in-oregon/ In 2019, 280 people died of a drug overdose in Oregon. Fatalities rose every year after, more than tripling by 2022, when 956 died. And last year, even more people died, according to preliminary data. Each month the number has been higher than the previous year, reaching 628 in June. The state is still compiling data for 2023, but if the trends continue, the total would reach 1,250 deaths from an overdose. Looks to me like the researchers aren't looking hard enough. 2019 drugs were illegal and deaths were at 280. 2020, drugs were legalized and each year from 2020-2023, the number of deaths rose dramatically. 956 died in 2022, and projected 1250 in 2023. "Seems like something happened in 2020 but we just aren't sure what that might have been" they are saying. These are not researchers, they are sycophants for the drug decriminalization cabal. Portland, the city of Roses, the most livable city some years ago is now a cesspool. As bad as Seattle and San Francisco. Just sickening what these politicos have done to once vibrant and beautiful cities. mspart mspart

Tough to say he isn't good. mspart

Is Crookham still undefeated? Fix ducked him back in Dec. mspart

US participants: 57 kg: Spencer Lee (Titan Mercury WC/Hawkeye WC) 61 kg: Nick Suriano (Sunkist Kids) 65 kg: Nick Lee (Titan Mercury WC/Nittany Lion WC) 70 kg: Alec Pantaleo (Titan Mercury WC/ Cliff Keen WC) 74 kg: Kyle Dake (Titan Mercury WC/Nittany Lion WC) 79 kg: Alex Facundo (Titan Mercury WC/Nittany Lion WC) 86 kg: Chance Marsteller (Titan Mercury WC/NYC RTC) 92 kg: Nate Jackson (New York AC/NJRTC) 97 kg: Kyle Snyder (Titan Mercury WC/Nittany Lion WC) 125 kg: Mason Parris (Titan Mercury WC/Cliff Keen WC) No surprise - I pick Lee, Lee, Dake, and Snyder to take Gold. Not sure of the rest. What you got? mspart

I really like mine. Almost zero exhaust. When I got mine, it was already with the new software etc so was good to go. All new factory warranties etc. The only trouble I have with the AC system. Doesn't clear the dash of fog very quickly. Other than that, it seems to be a really nice car. mspart

Did he break the law? In his own contract with the bank, he stipulates that the bank should do their own due diligence on the numbers his firm provided. Judge Engoron would not allow that to be admissible in court. Didn't want to hear about it. He had his agenda and we now know what it was. Very clearly. He wanted to punish Trump and did so with an unprecedented gargantuan fine that will be overturned on appeal. The banks had no problem with Trump or the deal they made. They got paid and were whole. Trump did his business with the loans and was whole. But a DA that ran on "getting Trump" did just that. Now we will see how well this will hold up on appeal. mspart

And this is happening right before our eyes. No wonder German citizens felt betrayed by the Nazis who gained control of everything pretty much without notice. https://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html "What no one seemed to notice," said a colleague of mine, a philologist, "was the ever widening gap, after 1933, between the government and the people. Just think how very wide this gap was to begin with, here in Germany. And it became always wider. You know, it doesn’t make people close to their government to be told that this is a people’s government, a true democracy, or to be enrolled in civilian defense, or even to vote. All this has little, really nothing, to do with knowing one is governing. "What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could not understand it, it could not be released because of national security. And their sense of identification with Hitler, their trust in him, made it easier to widen this gap and reassured those who would otherwise have worried about it. "This separation of government from people, this widening of the gap, took place so gradually and so insensibly, each step disguised (perhaps not even intentionally) as a temporary emergency measure or associated with true patriotic allegiance or with real social purposes. And all the crises and reforms (real reforms, too) so occupied the people that they did not see the slow motion underneath, of the whole process of government growing remoter and remoter. mspart

There's a GIF for everything!! mspart

I don't eat fungus. mspart

True story: We were on vacation in DC. This is back in the 60s. I was young and got sick and had to stay at my aunt's house while my family went to downtown. My sister and my Dad went to the top of the Washington Monument. There were hippies in there and my sister told be about the choking body odor. Then while driving around they saw some sort of protest. My dad was unimpressed because of the few number of people in the protest. When he got home and watched the evening news, that protest looked on screen and was described as a huge protest with all these people. It was at that moment my Dad figured out that the news had an agenda other than reporting unbiased news. That would have been 1968. I remember watching a burial and asked why we were watching it and my mom said it was for Robert Kennedy. mspart

SF has totally lost control of itself. Putting a non citizen (especially a Chinese citizen) on a local election board is the definition of self destruction. Now perhaps she is really interested in seeing elections be fair and even. Or perhaps maybe not. mspart

Maybe he can't call them thugs, but I can. Thugs attack police. Thugs attack innocent bystanders. mspart