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Teachers rank third, behind engineers and accountants, on a top-five list of careers most likely to have millionaires within their ranks. Business professionals and lawyers ranked fourth and fifth. Teachers average ~$50K annually. My eldest daughter made $25 - $30 an hour with tips in her first job as a server at a mall strip restaurant. Metro fringe area in the midwest. No education is required... and this introvert, I love her, has limits on her social skills. Discipline to live within one's means. Say no to what goes against your goals. One has goals, right? Save. Exercise. Have relationships. This goes a long way to one's well-being. ^^^ That is my primary belief... that most can achieve if they decide to achieve. If you want to pay more in taxes, make more money.

Will you explain how it gets the tax system wrong? That video explains where our taxes go. Funded programs should have cuts until the government executes debt-to-zero or surplus management. The former labor secretary should go into how much waste there is with the tax dollars. The government spends the money, and when that doesn't work, it spends even more money. Gross. Here is one of many sources that point out how much waste there is with our tax dollars.

I am taxed on my diligence (income, payroll), purchases (sales, excise), property, for receiving gifts, and in my death (estate) by a government with forced entitlement to my money as theirs. Reps sustain power by appeasing the majority at the expense of a constitutionally inspired social contract. A contract that envisions individuals voluntarily cooperating with a government whose role should primarily focus on protecting our individual rights. The taxmen lack the decency of a taxidermist who knows to leave the skin. They take more than is needed and spend like there is no tomorrow. I disagreed when earning my first paycheck at 14... A wider variety in social contracts at the state level would be nice. Then we wouldn't need to rehash the original Federalist versus Anti-Federalist views.

An old anecdote. How Taxes Work . . . Let's put tax cuts in terms everyone can understand. Suppose that every day, ten men go out for dinner. The bill for all ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this: The first four men — the poorest — would pay nothing; the fifth would pay $1, the sixth would pay $3, the seventh $7, the eighth $12, the ninth $18, and the tenth man — the richest — would pay $59. That's what they decided to do. The ten men ate dinner in the restaurant daily and seemed quite happy with the arrangement — until the owner threw them a curve (in tax language, a tax cut). "Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily meal by $20." So now dinner for the ten only costs $80.00. The group still wanted to pay their bill like we pay our taxes. So the first four men were unaffected. They would still eat for free. But what about the other six — the paying customers? How could they divvy the $20 windfall so everyone would get his "fair share?" The six men realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth and sixth man would be PAID to eat their meal. So the restaurant owner suggested that reducing each man's bill by roughly the same amount would be fair, and he worked out the amounts each should pay. And so the fifth man paid nothing, the sixth pitched in $2, the seventh paid $5, the eighth paid $9, and the ninth paid $12, leaving the tenth man with a bill of $52 instead of his earlier $59. Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to eat for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men began to compare their savings. "I only got a dollar out of the $20," declared the sixth man, who pointed to the tenth. "But he got $7!" "Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man, "I only saved a dollar, too ... It's unfair that he got seven times more than me!". "That's true!" shouted the seventh man, "why should he get $7 back when I got only $2? The wealthy get all the breaks!" "Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison, "We didn't get anything at all. The system exploits the poor!" The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up. The next night he didn't show up for dinner, so the nine sat down and ate without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered, a little late, what was very important. They were FIFTY-TWO DOLLARS short of paying the bill! Imagine that! And that, boys and girls, journalists and college instructors, is how the tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up at the table anymore.

Those accountable are the people/companies who rigged the election, the courts that refused to review the evidence, the law/government agencies for instigating groups, Trump for calling it out, and all the individuals who chose their J6 actions. To put this all on Trump is LOL. I thought you were LOL at Antifa since that is the word you highlighted, and there is much public discussion about how Antifa was not involved. My bad for missing your larger context of LOL.

1. Forget 40k, it implies they didn't watch any video and we continue to learn more about how biased and derelict they were in their duties. note: I have not reviewed the larger context the quote comes from. 2. From reading a few court documents, plenty of cases are dismissed without merit. Georgia has a chance with a chance for its real day in court after substantial time, appeals, and money. There will be chaos if the case is heard and ballot inspection proves the charges. Appeals in other states would have increased support/validation. Unfortunately, the Georgia case will be deferred until too late for the 2024 election. There is some interesting information out there RNC v. Gill, No. 03971 EQCV193154 (Iowa District Court, Woodbury County) - case Issue: Challenged Woodbury County auditor who sent voters absentee ballot applications prepopulated with some of their voter information Court held: Defendants knowingly violated the law, were ordered to stop, and the ballots that had been returned were invalid, ruled that the burden to the voters to re-request them was outweighed by the irreparable harm posed by i) inconsistent absentee voting procedures, and ii) the risk of fraud posed by pre-populated ballot request forms. Wisconsin - case The dissents are longer than the court opinions. The court ruled against Trump, claiming that the doctrine of laches barred three of his claims and the fourth was meritless. Here are excerpts from different dissenter statements: Once again, in an all too familiar pattern, four members of this court... refuse to even consider the uniquely Wisconsin, serious legal issues presented. The issues presented in this case, unlike those in other cases around the United States, are based on Wisconsin statutory election law. Make no mistake, the majority opinion fails to even mention, let alone analyze, the pertinent Wisconsin statutes. The Milwaukee County Board of Canvassers and the Dane County Board of Canvassers based their decisions on erroneous advice when they concluded that changes clerks made to defective witness addresses were permissible. And, the Dane County Board of Canvassers erred again when it approved the 200 locations for ballot collection that comprised Democracy in the Park. The majority does not bother addressing what the boards of canvassers did or should have done, and instead, four members of this court throw the cloak of laches over numerous problems that will be repeated again and again, until this court has the courage to correct them. The electorate expects more of us, and we are capable of providing it. Because we do not, I respectfully dissent. The majority's failure to act leaves an indelible stain on our most recent election. It will also profoundly and perhaps irreparably impact all local, statewide, and national elections going forward, with grave consequences to the State of Wisconsin and significant harm to the rule of law. Petitioners assert troubling allegations of noncompliance with Wisconsin's election laws by public officials on whom the voters rely to ensure free and fair elections. It is our solemn judicial duty to say what the law is. The majority's failure to discharge its duty perpetuates violations of the law by those entrusted to administer it.

Antifa was there Landon Copeland has been a self-avowed ANTIFA member since 2006. Copeland admitted that there were 18 fellow ANTIFA members with him at the Capitol on January 6, 2021. He also said from what he has seen, there are approximately 100 ANTIFA members entangled in the legal system as a result of January 6th. You can watch an interview or read his letter. https://www.therealj6.com/antifawasthere

Yes, it is well-written in its effectiveness to create reader emotion, event characterization, and blame. It's propaganda that folks continue to parrot.

Ashli Babbitt was shot by law enforcement. Rosanne Boyland died of an amphetamine overdose. Kevin Greeson and Benjamin Philips died naturally from coronary heart disease and hypertensive heart disease. Three civilian deaths were natural causes due to pre-existing health conditions / non-violent factors. Five cops died on a later date from natural causes and suicide. This statement leaves out context and implies these folks died from J6 violence.

For repeatedly and flagrantly hurting people? At about the age they start competing (6 years), they already know it is morally wrong, and an adult should be telling them it is wrong. I'd take my kid out of the sport and dismiss other kids from the team if I were their coach. This boy may be an adult at 18, but he may never be a man.

Second video here has the gallows questions.

Why would Trump incite violence while also approving the National Guard in advance of the protest? (???) Did this Democratic-led committee fulfill its duty to understand what went wrong? (no) According to the committee chair Bernie Thompson "I'm actually not aware of any member of the committee who had access (to videos). We had a team of employees who kind of went through the video." They did not investigate the FBI role before and during the demonstrations. Was the federal government unprepared? (maybe) Why did House Sergeant-at-Arms Paul Irving and Senate Sergeant-at-Arms Michael Stenger deny U.S. Capitol Police Steven Sund's pre-demonstration request for the National Guard? Was it really "optics" when the president had already approved the NG request? Was the mob's goal clear? (no) Was the mob bent on murdering Pence? (the mob? - no) Did Trump alone provoke the attack? (no, we've been told by Congress that the FBI instigated 10 months before the event, and we visually see law enforcement attack large groups of protestors without warning. From whistleblowers, videos, and court documents, we also know antifa was involved, and people who just enjoy violence/mayhem for the sake of it.) Was Trump justified in calling the election rigged? (We know it was rigged to a certain degree (pre-election law changes, big tech censorship) and time will tell us more about election days rigging ) Relating to the emotional words (darkest days, heartbreaking, lies) depends on the extent the election was rigged... which bubble burst has still not had evidence reviewed in the court of law. (...Georgia case for example)

Check out the tyrannical words that Carolyn Maloney used in her opening statement to frame the events in a particular way, evoke emotion, persuade... its rhetoric. --------- Today, the committee will examine one of the darkest days in our Nation's history, the January 6 insurrection at the United States Capitol. On that day, a violent mob, incited by shameless lies told by a defeated President, launched the worst attack on our Republic since the Civil War. It was harrowing and heartbreaking. We watched as the temple of our democracy, a building we are as familiar with as our own homes, was overrun by a mob bent on murdering the Vice President and Members of Congress. The mob's goal was clear. They were trying to prevent the peaceful transfer of power to the newly elected President by halting the counting of electoral votes. This insurrection failed, but not before police officers were attacked and had to use deadly force to protect Members of Congress. Shots were fired mere feet from the House floor. Because of this horrific attack, four private citizens died. Three police officers lost their lives. Had it not been for the heroic men and women of law enforcement who faced down the mob, there would have been even more bloodshed that day. We know who provoked this attack. That is why 17 House and Senate Republicans joined all congressional Democrats in the bipartisan effort to impeach and convict for, and I quote, "inciting violence against the Government of the United States." To quote Senator Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, "There is no question, none, that President Trump is practically and morally responsible for provoking the events that day." But the failures of January 6 go beyond the craven lies and provocations of one man. The Federal Government was unprepared for this insurrection, even though it was planned in plain sight on social media for the world to see. And despite all the military and law enforcement resources our Government can call upon in a crisis, security collapsed in the face of the mob, and reinforcements were delayed for hours as the Capitol was overrun. It is our duty to understand what went wrong that day, to seek accountability, and to take action to prevent this from ever happening again. ---------

How many people knew that Trump approved authorization for the National Guard before January 6th? -------- House of Representative Discussion on Wednesday, May 12, 2021 U.S. Congressman Byron Donalds... A couple of questions. Mr. Miller, I know that you said earlier that you were in contact with—or you received a request from Mayor Bowser with respect to National Guard troops. When did you receive that request from Mayor Bowser? U.S. Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller. December 31, 2020. I spent the weekend reviewing it to finalize the plan with the D.C. National Guard and the Department of the Army and Army staff. Mr. DONALDS. At what point did you and President Trump discuss this request from Mayor Bowser? Mr. MILLER. I had a meeting with President Trump on the 3rd of January concerning some international threats, and at the very end, he asked if there were any requests for National Guard support, and I informed him of Mayor Bowser’s request. Mr. DONALDS. Mr. Miller, to clarify that point, did you tell the President about the Mayor’s request, or did President Trump ask if there were requests? Mr. MILLER. He asked if there were requests. Mr. DONALDS. What was the President’s response to you concerning the request made by Mayor Bowser? Mr. MILLER. Fill it and do whatever was necessary to protect the demonstrators and that were executing their constitutionally protected rights. -------- https://www.congress.gov/event/117th-congress/house-event/LC66768/text?s=1&r=65

I had no idea how the different videos fit together until watching this awesome J6 timeline. https://open.ink/collections/j6 So many questions.

What was the plan? When the Capitol was overtaken by force, what demands were made? How and why did the violent insurrection end? Why did the plan fail?

More than 18 months after Jan. 6, 2021, Americans still struggle to understand what happened that day. Even after this summer’s House Jan. 6 committee revelations, the Capitol Building riot seems to defy easy categorization. It was at once violent and farcical, premeditated and shambolic, clearly associated with a coordinated effort by the outgoing administration to nullify a free and fair election it had just lost yet lacking the muscle of military or police authorities. So… was it an insurrection? A coup, albeit a failed one? A political protest gone awry? A pathetic show of white power cosplay or the portent of something darker and more dangerous in our nation’s not-distant future? https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/08/19/jan-6-coup-authoritarianism-expert-roundtable-00052281

Is this why nobody has been charged with insurrection? Exclusive: FBI finds scant evidence U.S. Capitol attack was coordinated - sources WASHINGTON, Aug 20 (Reuters) - The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials. Though federal officials have arrested more than 570 alleged participants, the FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters of then-President Donald Trump, according to the sources, who have been either directly involved in or briefed regularly on the wide-ranging investigations. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/

Rasta... you are being too literal. Okay, I thought it might look like the BLM riots with the building on fire. I thought it might look like the 1971 Capitol bombing. I thought it might involve rebels with guns engaging in a firefight. I expected it to be a lot more violent. If 120K people wanted to take the capitol by force, they could have easily done so. The few nut jobs that were actually violent could have done a lot more damage to property and people. Perhaps we should celebrate the outstanding job the Boys in Blue did to dissipate the violent insurrection that was worse than the 9/11 terrorist attacks that killed thousands of Americans and launched multiple wars (per Steve Schmidt). Here is some evidence that law enforcement helped instigate events. More: https://uncoverdc.com/2023/09/28/j6-defendants-account-of-police-brutality-and-illegal-use-of-force/ Note: The guy who was shot in the face is a weirdo, but he also talks about there being nutjobs there that wanted violence in the crowd. https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/59302064/68/united-states-v-black/ See... we can admit there were nut jobs in the rally... but also admit there is a lot more to J6 than what you've been reading on big tech and the headlines. Let your bubble burst.

So not everyone there was an insurrectionist. Correct, nobody was charged with insurrection. Not everyone was a seditionist. Correct, 17 of 120K people (0.01%) of the attendees have been charged with seditious conspiracy. and there was only a little bit of death. Correct, only the trespasser Ashli Babbitt was killed on J6. and a little bit of injuries. That is incorrect; there were a couple of hundred injuries, some pretty serious to cops and civilians. What I haven't verified is who struck first. The recently released footage clearly shows cops shooting high-velocity rubber bullets and flash-bang grenades into the crowd. You can see civilians bleeding, hole through the side of one guy's cheek, etc. There are claims that the cops shot first without being provoked. oh and Tucker told us what to think. ??? Rep Clay Higgins, the former cop, does most of the talking in the above video and is investigating the FBI. I am not denying any of the assaults, etc. I do question the framing. (So did Pelosi's daughter). This isn't an insurrection like anything I watched in the movies. Broadly, the lack of guns, gun shootings, bombs, organization, etc. from the civilian side, coupled with mass peaceful civilians... the underreported facts go against the media narrative. This wasn't anything close to what one imagines...

Punching in to work early. The Justice Department has not given anyone insurrection charges for 18 U.S. CODE § 2383 from J6. Not even Grandma.

This was primarily an organic peaceful protest, with less than 1% of attendees charged for breaking the law, and primarily for trespassing. Law enforcement entrapped several radical people in advance of and during J6. A relatively small number of attendees were charged with sedition, etc., type insurrection charges. --- The most common charges have been entering or remaining in a restricted federal building or grounds. How does trespassing, even for an extended period, lead to control of a county? Of an estimated 120,000 attendees, ~1100 have been charged with trespassing. (1%) How many people were arrested inside the capitol with guns? Zero. How many people were arrested outside the capitol with guns? Some. Was there violence? Yes. Did Trump organize an insurrection? He was not charged for it. Has anyone been charged with sedition? A few. Was there an insurrection wanted by some? Yes. Say more about it. The overwhelming percentage were protestors and demonstrators, a small percentage were rioters, and a relatively few were charged with insurrection-type charges (sedition, etc.). Say more about those who planned and wanted a more radical occupation. House of Representative Clay Higgin's research indicates entrapment and conspiracy to set the stage for a compromised election cycle by the government and FBI. FBI staging event for 10 months, operating undercover within online groups across the country and were the first ones to plant the seeds of suggestions of a more radical occupation of the Capitol 200+ undercover FBI assets in the crowd outside and already inside the capital dressed as Trump supporters. Instigated action and acted as tour guides inside the capitol. The capitol layout is too confusing to get around and know where you are going, and it takes a guide to get to the key areas.

Could use more steel-man and less straw-man.