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Your daughter seems like the exception for even high school softball. Thin like she never hit puberty. What height! My freshman has been 5’2 125lbs since 11. Went from “Krusher” to “Kate.” From the tallest and thickest to the most petite on her team. Lean; not fat. No shade. Congrats to your daughter on success.

Kasak has had face acne for years; it isn’t new. Hamiti is tall; not thick. KOT has deceptive functional strength; not showy strength. He lost as a freshman because of strength. Haines looks like a Greek statue in comparison.

I’ll take a healthy KOT over most.

Don’t you know you are a one legged man in an ass kicking contest?

Hey @MedicineMan - what memes do you have to help explain the question?

Aye! This knocked me from the R12 to a dark horse that went zero and barbeque. Even the swimmer outperformed me.

Pindrickson is perfect! More ideas... The Air Force Assassin The Butter Bar Badass The Cowboy Colossus The Heavyweight Hammer The Kansan Krusher The Pinning Praetorian

Outside of that tournament how has he performed?

Scammer https://tonyseruga.blogspot.com/2007/05/tony-seruga.html

This seems impractical and there are many questionable statements that warrant questioning. It is possible and if someone had the access and finances to do it, surprisingly it appears Tony is the right guy for the job. Tony is wealthy... And this is what he does...

We care because even a modest dose of testosterone can boost muscle growth by up to a pound per week, without weightlifting. 20 week study... Best quote "This guy gained more muscle (31lbs) in 5 months of juicing, without lifting, than a professional did in 15 years of natural lifting." The easiest giveaway besides rapid muscle gain is the ridiculous size in upper traps and delts. Acne alone "IS NOT" a likely indicator for a college wrestler. Hormones, stress, and hygiene are likely. Kasak was already strong in 2024... And here he is in 2023 with acne https://www.instagram.com/tylerkasak/p/CyLuJW_Mhik/ And 2024 https://www.instagram.com/tylerkasak/p/C4asFE2MI9u/ ...not enough evidence for me on Kasak ...not even to speculate I have also been impressed with Shapiro's success because he looks undersized... dude is frustrated... maybe he should hit the gym harder or drop a weight class. KOT didn't complain about strongmen, rather he recognized that he himself needed to get stronger after his freshmen year.

Adding pounds in their 20s is not hard to do.

Shapiro has not spent much time in a weight room…

As a 17 year old senior, my in season weekly cut was an easy 180 to 171. Last day of school I weighed 190. After working outside in June and accidental fasting, I weighed 167 for a July wrestling tournament. Within four months of starting college baseball that August. I weighed 195 and was 5.1% body fat. My diet was all I could eat in the college cafe to fuel workouts. I had previously cut enough weight to have the sunken cheeks and have a hospital visit. Adding weight is much simpler than cutting. So does adding 20 lbs in a year indicate foul play? Nope, not by itself. I don’t think the 157 to 174 pounder was taking PEDs… looks natural to me. He lacks the tell tale signs of roids…

Help me correct what we can on... 285lbs - Wyatt Hendrickson (Oklahoma State) What were their best international results at any level across any style? Gold at the 2023 U23 World Championships (125 kg, freestyle) 5th at the 2021 Junior World Championships (125 kg, freestyle) Did they ever make a U.S. national team, like the Junior or Cadet World Team? 2023 U23 World Team (Champ) 2021 Junior World Team (Champ) 2018 UWW Cadet (not a team member) Freestyle - 7th Greco - 7th What were their best college national results before 2025? 2025 - Champ 2024 - 3rd 2023 - 3rd 2022 - R16 2021 - R12 2020 - Prep What were their best results across major high school tournaments (e.g., state, Super 32, Fargo, Who's #1)? Kansas State Class 5A 2019 (Senior): 1st at 220 lbs, 37-0, pinning all four opponents, including St. James Academy’s Cade Lautt in 1:28 in the final. 2018 (Junior): 1st at 195 lbs, 34-1, pinning Bishop Carroll’s Brady Bockover in 3:58 in the final. 2017 (Sophomore): 2nd at 182 lbs, 34-6, losing to St. James Academy’s Clay Lautt 17-9 (major decision) in the final. 2016 (Freshman): Did not qualify for state at 160 lbs, finishing 16-19. Folk Style NHSCA High School Nationals 2019: 1st at 220lbs FloNationals 2019: 1st at 97KG - UWW Junior USAW Nationals 2018: 2nd at 195lbs Super 32 2018: 2nd at 195lbs Fargo 2018: Junior Free - 3rd at 195lbs 2018: Junior Greco - 5th at 195lbs 2017: Cadet Free - 3rd at 195lbs 2017: Cadet Greco - 3rd at 195lbs What were their best results across major youth tournaments (e.g., state, nationals, Fargo)? National Folkstyle 2014: Middle School - DNP KS State Folkstyle 2018: High School - 1st 2017: High School - 1st 2016: 14U - 1st 2015: 14U - 6th 2015: Middle School - 6th 2014: 12U - 6th 2014: Middle School - 5th 2013: 12U - 1st 2012: 10u - 1st 2011: 10u - DNP 2010: 8u - 2nd 2009: 8u - 5th Jan 2008 - first recorded tournament 6U in track wrestling Freestyle 2018: Jr/Cadet - 1st 2017: Jr/Cadet - 1st 2016: Cadet - 3rd 2015: Schoolboy - 3rd 2013: Novice - 2nd 2012: Novice - 1st 2011: Intermediate - 1st 2010: Intermediate - 2nd 2009: Bantam - 1st Greco 2018: Jr/Cadet - 1st 2017: Jr/Cadet - 1st 2016: Cadet - 3rd 2015: Schoolboy - 3rd 2013: Novice - 1st 2012: Novice - 1st 2011: Intermediate - 1st 2010: Intermediate - 2nd 2009: Bantam - 1st What is a remarkable fact about them (e.g., never taken down in high school)? The “Pin Machine" went the distance in just 4 of his 27 matches during his senior season of college. He won all other matches by pin, tech fall, or injury. He has a history of increasingly excelling over time at each level. At what age did they first start wrestling, and how many years of wrestling experience did they have by the 2025 NCAA Championships? 18 years. Started competing 6U ~2007. Was their high school a wrestling powerhouse in their state and nation? Newton, Kansas High School was good, not great in Kansas Class 5A from 2016-2019. Top 10 with no team championship out of ~35ish schools. Multiple D1 wrestlers have come out of Newton, including the Treaster family. Have they changed schools at any age to train with a better team or coach? Transferred from Air Force to Oklahoma State in May 2024, using his COVID bonus year to train under David Taylor. Acknowledged that this made him a better wrestler. Were they part of any elite national training camps or programs? Air Force RTC, OSU RTC, U.S. national camps.

One guy made the jump from 157 to 174 and looks like the strongest guy in the higher weight class. He has the exaggerated traps, delts, and pecs. I raised an eyebrow... but he doesn't have the cannonball shoulders... so maybe he just ate normal and "worked hard."

maybe 2-3

Mesenbrink pointing at the line when his opponent was six inches off of it. If you play it back, it also looks like he was calling his shot. Like pointing at one foot and then the other. Off the whistle, Mesenbrink did exactly that with a misdirection shot. Anyone recall the match?

Hello folks. Wouldn't it be interesting to know more about the backgrounds and accomplishments of the wrestlers who competed in the 2025 NCAA Wrestling Championships? Can we look for detailed info on each wrestler... especially the standout All-Americans? Can you help provide answers to these questions... either from your knowledge or any reliable sources you can point me to? What were their best international results at any level across any style? Did they ever make a U.S. national team, like the Junior or Cadet World Team? What were their best college national results before 2025? What were their best results across major high school tournaments (e.g., state, Super 32, Fargo, Who's #1)? What were their best results across major youth tournaments (e.g., state, nationals, Fargo)? What is a remarkable fact about them (e.g., never taken down in high school)? At what age did they first start wrestling, and how many years of wrestling experience did they have by the 2025 NCAA Championships? Was their high school a wrestling powerhouse in their state and nation? Have they changed schools at any age to train with a better team or coach? Were they part of any elite national training camps or programs?

Yes I watched on + this year.

Thanks hoss. In all fairness to them Happy Valley hayseeds, it was crab night at the Wok... legs rippin’, butter spillin’, and them PSU crybabies still howlin’ like JB torched their last biscuit with his gold-medal gospel...

The crew said rob won on counterattacks earlier. This is why nobody did anything. If Sprat wins; he does not care what the viewers think. Smart. … but yuck

Yes we really should copy the better parts from freestyle, while keeping it folkstyle.

Pablo, you’ve put words in my mouth I never said. I didn’t claim takedowns are all that matter or that I don’t care about pinning. Please stick to what I wrote. I’m all for aggressive wrestling, and my entertainment rankings show it: Defender reversal from their back directly to having their opponent on their back Aggressive Neutral wrestling to take the opponent from feet to back Aggressive top wrestling in an attempt to pin Tie Aggressive Neutral wrestling to score a standard takedown Defender reversal Defender earned escape Top wrestling for control without trying to pin (riding time) Aggressive wrestling defended from any position that results in zero points Top wrestler gifts a free escape point Neutral wrestlers not engaging Bottom wrestler not engaging (turtling) Purposely pushing action out of bounds Purposely fleeing the mat Purposely touching the floor to be out of bounds Here’s how I rank them by challenge to execute: Defender reversal from their back directly to having their opponent on their back Aggressive Neutral wrestling to take the opponent from feet to back Defender reversal from bottom Aggressive wrestling defended from any position that results in zero points Aggressive top wrestling in an attempt to pin Aggressive Neutral wrestling to score a standard takedown Defender earned escape from bottom Top wrestling for control without trying to pin (riding time) Purposely pushing action out of bounds Top wrestler gifts a free escape point Neutral wrestlers not engaging Bottom wrestler not engaging (turtling) Purposely fleeing the mat Purposely touching the floor to be out of bounds I’d prefer takedowns and reversals both at 2 points, with escapes at 0; returning to Neutral is reward enough for an escape, and I don’t see why it needs points tacked on. The 3-point takedown was a solid change, though; it creates a clear two-point gap from the escape, which I like. To you point on challenge reflected by points: why do we award more for a free escape than for defending a takedown from the crackdown position, which takes skill?

I love fixing the intermat forum.