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This is the kind of thread that makes me jealous that I do not have the same kind of shared history as you guys. On the other hand, I could do ear modeling.

Pistols at dawn. In one of the other threads I made the point that this was just accounting, not an argument for "best".

Three-time Iowa state high school champion David Kjeldgaard was the first national winner of our Dave Schultz High School Excellence Award in 1996. David, who had a career high school record of 173-4, graduated first and was valedictorian of his class with a 4.0 GPA at Lewis Central Senior High School in Council Bluffs, Iowa. He was an officer in the National Honor Society and Fellowship of Christian Athletes while also serving as an officer for the freshman, sophomore and junior classes. David was Student of the Year in Geometry, Algebra II, Biology, General Chemistry, Physics and Trigonometry and received the National Academy Math and Science Award. Kjeldgaard was a three-time Cadet National Champion and a five-time Junior National Champion. To win his first freestyle title as a junior, he defeated T.J. Williams, who would go on to win two NCAA titles and have a career record of 98-1 for Iowa Wrestling. To capture his second title as a senior, Kjeldgaard defeated future NCAA champion and four-time Top-Three finisher Joe Heskett just to reach the finals, where he triumphed over Cael Sanderson, a Distinguished Member of the National Wrestling Hall of Fame who went on to be an undefeated four-time NCAA champion, world champion and Olympic gold medalist. Kjeldgaard's career at the University of Oklahoma was hampered and cut short by knee injuries, but he twice qualified for the NCAA tournament and was a Big 12 Conference runner-up in 2000.

Down from what. Reminds me of a guy I worked for. He’d raise his prices 20% and advertise a 10% off sale.

Almost like our media asking Biden what his fav ice cream flavor is

It’s been posted 50 times that the dc pd was faking stats. It’s also been posted that the democrat mayor asked for national guard in front of congress. @red viking won’t acknowledge any of those. It’s just pure unadulterated hatred of t even the news casters CNN are gripping they don’t feel safe etc

cant just decreasing crime be OK?

Assault with a deli weapon is no laughing matter Credit to @HarmeetKDhillon

By definition, hyperbolic statements aren't true or meant to be taken as such. My guess is this thread will be full of a million examples of things that aren't hyperbole being presented as hyperbole.

seriously. Adams was NC threat for sure. this thread rocks.

Sheldon doesn't get near the respect he should. He wasn't a one-hit wonder or an anomaly. He was first team ASICS AA and a National Champ.

KOT and Smith and Askren have all confirmed the plan for KOT was to redshirt his true frosh year, but they collectively decided that rather than going to JV opens they decided to go against real competition when the eligibility rules were announced.

Seriously this is gold...calling a group of people dumb yet saying they are only going to win where they get more votes...next are you going to tell us it's only sunny when the sun is out....or the Lakers only win when they score more points?? Not to mention you spelled Mickey wrong.

Mizzou- I would get the Rokfin sub, really good content and a lot of it. Lots of intermat stuff on there and Willie's stuff is in there too. Also, IA Wrestle along with others really good too. Lots of info on states and recruiting. PNL is on there too, all around really good. I feel it is well worth the money, for sure. Would much rather spend on that than other streaming services.

Beware the inside trip

Anthony Ferrari to Campbell. Thought he was going to Morgan State.

TJ Stewart and Tyler Stewart removed from Virginia Tech's roster

For my first post I figured I start with a friendly discussion of why our professional league needs to be folk style over freestyle. First Folk style is AMERICAN, it is our FOLKSTYLE. Many countries have their own folk styles (there is a Wikipedia list) and when you see the clips of their folk styles, the stands are always full. Our only tournament that tickets are hard to get is a folk style tournament. Most people only compete in folk style here in the states. Only a very select few ever go on to the Olympics. Everything about folk style is the American way. You want to score a point on the edge of the mat, you have to earn it, just trying to shove someone off a mat isn't wrestling. If you want to get out on bottom, you have to earn it. When your on top, you go for the pin, waiting on the refs for a restart is the most unamerican thing possible. Freestyle has turned its back on Americans every step of the way. Americans started dominated in the early 90s, they changed the rules to take out endurance, no over time, then the ball grab stuff, and the body lock stuff. The powers that be almost regulated wrestling out of the Olympics because they hated when Americans dominated. We need to see where the money backing this is coming from. Hulk Hogan had some shady financial connections, American wrestling don't need another "Foxcatcher" incident. My last gear grinder, we need to stop Glazin the Russians. They wrestlers are not honorable competitors. Long history of cheating for using peds, They payed officials to take medals from Americans. They started the trend of sending wrestlers to other country's. They have payed people to lose to their competitors. Yet in recent years we act like they are the best. They were the best because they cheated time and time again. (Don't use UFC as an example of them being "great" wrestlers, they hand pick who they promote, and they've been promoting Russians like, the Russians have some black mail on them.) Here's the best way to start a professional league, Individual folk style tournament, 10 weights, for a cash prize. Get our best folk stylers to come. Have 8 coaches do fantasy draft for their "team". Run a short Dual season, a dual post season, and an individual post season for a large cash purse. Just a conversation piece, but can we please stop treating Russians like they are honorable warriors.

I still think red viking is one of VakAttack’s handles.

Ha, Trump put him in his place right from the start. The flyover with the 4 F22 raptors and stealth bomber sent him a message. You know his people were monitoring everything they could and just to remind him he ain't $h!t we showed him we're invisible. He is bogged down in Europe with the poorest country in Europe. The only thing he could do is pout and hide. You are cheering for America to lose but that didn’t happen today.

No one's gonna mess with you man.

Maybe his VPN got bonked

Xavier Doolin was a stud in hs, maybe he can put together an AA senior season for Morgan State.

I'm here for it as a fan. We follow these kids for a decade or more and then post-college they have to change styles completely to keep competing. It's not a good way to sustain a product. I don't dislike freestyle but it makes sense that viewership suffers because a bunch of storylines die on the vine and the action isn't "better wrestling against better competitors" its "different wrestling with different rules". Like if baseball players play cricket after college because cricket is more popular globally... the MLB would be toast. Trouble is, there is no American system for post-collegiate wrestlers. The argument is that there isn't a fanbase to sustain a professional wrestling organization... but the same was said about football/baseball/basketball and now the NFL/MLB/NBA are massive.

I respect much of the above …. But not all of it …. Is it the American Way to be ready to flee (play the edge) and effectively run away when the situation gets tricky? That seems to be the folkstyle way with all the crap OOB that happens.

I did get an error message once or twice but just pressed submit a couple more times

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/dc-police-commander-suspended-crime-statistics/3959566/ There’s an investigation going on. There’s been a suspension while they look into the changing of statistics to show violent crime is down. The head of the DC police union (you should trust him as you love unions) doesn’t believe the stats they’re giving out. your ignorance is real

Your tax dollars?????? You pay in federal income tax? I highly doubt it.

Brill was a great kid, good parents doing the right things, injuries got him. Cortez with the moving around a concern in my book.

If it's a rv hyperbole then 110% true.

there's tons of value to that show, and you're an idiot if you say otherwise. same thing with Alex Jones. say anything you want but the fact is many of the things they talk about that are considered faux pas and conspiracy become public record and ubiquitous truth in time.

Houston "The Eagle has landed!"

Bruce Kelly was a stud. Great guy too!

Committed a foot long felony.

Sub Slinger? Bun Bomber? Deli-nquent?

Noah Adams, 30-0 Big 12 champ and 2-0 vs Buchanan in 2020 before covid shut it down. 2021 was 14-5 going 0-4 vs Buchanan with two of those loses coming post season. 0-2 at ncaas to Buchanan and Rocky Elam. Had one more year eligibility but decided to become a law enforcement officer I believe.

Brester was a walk on and had two wins over Varner.

So what, there’s still been a hundred murders this year. That’s entirely too many for most people. Fifty percent wouldn’t be enough. And buy all the kotex you like, and shove ‘em every one.

what do security officers do? the payback is no crime, injury, death, court time; I guess there no costs for these things in rock world. they have to work one week a month anyway somewhere, No?

I believe the program's first year was 2023-2024 and their first year of postseason eligibility was 2024-2025. So personally I'd give him one more year to at least show improvements before I made a move. But I agree, they suck...a lot.

rocks are smart

Were they charged with child rape? Can one be convicted of something without a charge and trial?

Ben Altman (Davidson)

Korbin Myers

2024 also had Hamiti who did not place! That's where I voted

I was going to say Lee Kemp vs the field with fewest points scored. Schalles owns a freestyle win 1976 of a 6 to 1 margin.

Ray Brinzer. -- we have great lalks about history and philosophy....and even mention wrestling some times. ...

Matt Demaray

The distraction tactics are working so well that some on here are actually trying to deflect and defend for these proven pedophiles, to the point they’re more interested in defend and deflect than they are the truth. Wow. It’s sick.

https://nypost.com/2025/08/12/us-news/legendary-long-island-wrestling-coach-al-bevilacqua-dies/ Great man, great coach who touched my life and so many others, rest in peace.