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Just got my "Week One Done" award! This forum is far superior to the old mat.com one!

Pretty impressive to get this up and running smoothly with such a short runway. I had just assumed that Oct. 31 was going to be it, that I wouldn't spend any more time on this stuff, and that I'd maybe find some sort of productive, socially useful, and uplifting alternative use of my time. Instead I'll just keep doing this.

Paniro Johnson over Austin Gomez.

Folks are eager to do away with stuff that has no bearing in their lives...

I think that's already allowed...

So my wife got ahold of my phone, and I have paid a steep price, lol. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk

this is probably because of that loser pyles....

The concept is stupid. Go to college, earn your degree - then play sports while there. Not good enough to start - oh well. Next year. Get hurt, that sucks. Move your life along. Eliminate redshirts. Do we redshirt Tuba players? Do we redshirt chemical engineers? Do we redshirt actresses? Do we redshirt pre-Med majors? Do we redshirt aspiring diplomats?

Cornell commit Shapiro dominated through the Clarion open - 3 techs, MD and a fall in the final. Nice confidence builder. Sam Latona (VT) lays an egg to start the season.

I wanted to put this out there to the Intermat wrestling family. Oregon State 174lber Mateo Olmos lost his father unexpectedly. Mateo is a great young man and has been part of OSU wrestling for 5 years. Prayers and support to the Olmos family. https://www.gofundme.com/f/mario-olmos?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_campaign=p_cf share-flow-1&fbclid=IwAR2JoH5GWo_lnZWfU7KqSvTXYOvBVxuZ6-l8kPDp0J4z7A8JlQJqVsk5URg

Should have spent the off season in Iran. Those dudes are pretty good at exactly what Hamiti is missing.

It is warming to see so much support for him and his in this time of sorrow. I challenge everyone who reads this to participate in any way that they can. Show them that the wrestling community takes care of their own.

If only there was a way you could prove it... an archive of... sorts... or something... ish...?

You should but watch the video, he was flat long enough to get a pin and a fall.

Mendez over Byrd.

If you bought FLO you have Track. I've never bought Track, yet I have it as a FLO subscriber...

Seems the crook has stolen your heart. Somewhere Dean Hamiti sighs forlornly.

Baseball stats are ludicrously positive. Johnny Bravo may be battling the Mendoza line on the year, but when it is his turn at bat, the scoreboard says "Batting .412 against LHP on Tuesday 1PM games when the count is 2 and 0 and no runners on base."

Indeed. Yet we learn...

12 hours ago, Zap Brannigan said: "Absolutely, 99% not guilty."

You pretty much explained everything in life.

I see the redshirt as only positive for the vast majority of student athletes. Any student athlete can graduate in four years if that's their priority. The redshirt is one tool that addresses social inequity. Without it, only those whose family is in an advantageous financial position would have the opportunity to delay enrollment to optimize their lineage's athletic potential. Eliminating all gray shirts by making all athletic competition strictly bracketed by age could be seen as fairer. But this doesn't address nutrition issues associated with social inequities. The redshirt year helps make a body stronger and more able to fairly compete.

125: Malik got a little revenge. Looks good. Don't know if he'll place this year but... 133: Start Mendez NOW. Period. Sure. BOUZAKIS also dominated the frosh/soph division, but Mendez just took our Byrd. If it wasn't on the edge, he may have stuck him. 141: oh no... 149: Sammy doing sassy things 157: Paddy will be competitive but isn't the world beater this year many thought he could be 165: no show. No opinion. 174: Smitty done good. Had a tough bout with Ruth's younger brother, but, won it convincingly. No opinion change. If he doesn't AA this year he'll fall short of expectations. 184: Romero looked good. No opinion change. His takedowns seem even more powerful this tourney. 197: Hoffman... I dunno. Placed 2nd, but... still concerned. But Geog at 197??? Wow! Hwt: ornerydwarf and Feldman were no shows so no opinion change. What thoughts have you?

Near the end of my college career, I was asked by a good friend from HS if I would visit a grade school where his mother was teaching. Nothing too specific, just a PE class and they apparently wanted a wrestler to visit for some reason or another. I was game. When I arrived, all those little dirt-eating grade school buggers were assembled in the gym, sitting cross legged. and surprisingly super attentive. My HS bud decided now was a good time to explain that I needed to do the rope climb and touch the ceiling without using my legs for the kids. Oh, and back down without legs, too. Not something I had ever done before, and this was not a small gym; the ceiling was not low. I wasn't sure about it. It was high, and ropes weren't part of my workout regimen. My buddy was certain and gave me a "You can do it." The teacher got the kids fired up to encourage me. Worked. Getting to the ceiling was easy. The way down wasn't quite as easy, but I managed to try to look cool as I landed. The kids applauded like I was a celebrity+batman+astronaut. It was a good day - I remember it as clearly as yesterday. More than most of my wrestling matches. If anybody is hesitant to jump in to assist with kids, I hope my story helps. I had no idea kids would connect with a rope climb like they did. You never know what will click.

Sioredas doing work

Many do.

What about the other students (non-athletes) shouldn't they get an extra year to say hang and drink beer?

I disagree. Many kids are not academically ready to complete all their academic requirements in 4 years (double major, not a great hs, etc). Why not take an extra year to mature mentally and physically and enjoy competing at the same time. We have our entire adult life to work our 9-5 job, why not compete until 23-24 while you can do it? Many sports the average guy can do beyond his 20's, wrestling isn't one of them.

I'm gonna stick with the premise that he would have if he hadn't have to watch his whole team get immasculated right before he took the mat.

You're drunk. Aren't you? I rarely make sense.

When is their dual? If ISU keeps wrestling like this they might not chance sitting him as they may need his 5 points.

who says they put him out

Lee would tech every 125 and 133 on the ISU roster with no ACLs.

And I thought Wisc had the advantage in the lower weights, geez.

Dear lord Flo, hallowed be thy not awkward UI. I apologize for any potential offense I may have caused. Please do not make any decisions based upon what I have posted upon here. We humbly beseech you. Holy Flo, do not worry about the coach I talked to today that paid his own money so his team could be in a tournament. Such coaches are not those type who you make your money from. Please accept our humble benedictions. And keep track wrestling as it is. Yay, we know thee shall seem to only care about the type of customer that can spend for the Flo account and every fancy pair of wrestling socks. Amen

pyles is a spineless idiot.

If this thread ends up being fuel for Flo shutting Track down I will personally nuke you all in to oblivion. Flo's current Arena bracketing system is a data slog and complete trash to navigate. Track's looks like Windows 95 because they haven't had to improve their bracketing displays in a long, long time. All this said: Yes. Flo implemented the paywall.

I'm guessing that if true, the schools will pay the $50 fee... just like tournament fees, score keepers, refs, etc. If it's required they will cover the cost. And I am guessing they are already aware of this. 25 bags of popcorn should cover it.

I said Greco was his specialty. He’s had the most success there, and this year that is the only style he competed in at WTT. So, again, it is his specialty. Never said he wasn’t good at other styles. My opinion is the further you go down the rabbit hole in Greco (such as focusing all summer in it preparing for world championships) the tougher it gets to have a ton of folkstyle success. I still think he’s going to be a multiple AA, which is awesome, but that is lower than I think most expectations would have been for him.

Agree - I wrestled one year and redshirted 4... I have 20 matches left.

Mine are all Finals Has no one mentioned Metcalf - Caldwell? Other memorable "WoW" finals Trenge - Hahn (most heartbreaking) Cenzo - IMar Perry - Hendricks Konrad - Mocco Jenkins - Taylor Rohn - Lambrecht & my favorite Nickal - Martin (2018)

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This way lies madness.

One of my more memorable ones, in person, was Brent Metcalf VS Dustin Schlatter at the Medina Holiday Invite their respective senior scholastic seasons: As an avid Davison follower and supporter in the Roy Hall from the late 1990s on, there was a certain aura of invincibility around Brent heading in to his senior season. Many people intimate to the scene believed that he was the best 145lber (ever) but would be not just a contender for a title at the D1 level, but a favorite to win. When Schlatter took it to him at his own game (Metcalf won in rideouts), folks started to understand a little bit that we were entering a new era of middle weight depth. People absolutely believed that Metcalf was the truth AND that we had 'other' truths in the chamber. Everyone who left after seeing that match had not just a high respect but a complete belief that what they saw was special.

First off - Good luck this season! Having been on both sides -- wrestling in the city, and coaching for a year after college in another city -- I think a lot of people said some good stuff already, but wanted to note something: While it is about teaching the sport of wrestling, don't think they can't win those state championships or AA's. I think the most important thing I brought with me as a coach was that I treated my athletes as if they'd win, and I was willing to go with them to whatever level was necessary for them, as they are, to win. Every other facet of life while growing up in the city has the approach of having to do more to be at the same level as everyone else, and that's no different when it comes to sports. The kids will put in the work if they have someone believing in the work that they're doing. It might mean taking some time in the off-season to coordinate rides to club practices, or fundraising for tournaments and bus fare, or even writing up an accessible diet & workout plan, but they'll do it!

So I coach at our area's inner city school... gonna ramble here One of the biggest things I think is understanding circumstances and the wrestlers as a coach.... For instance, I had a kid not shave before a meet so I'm a little aggravated and pull him aside, turns out no one has ever taught him to shave (he lives in a foster facility). I had another kid not making it to practice because his mom was too drunk, two dad's last season OD during season. Nuance that is needed (not saying be a players coach but also not being a hard liner) If you can address things that the team can provide before it even reaches the wrestlers, its a big difference (providing and washing practice gear daily, finding a business to pay for or subsidize costs, etc...) Some kids need wrestling and wrestling needs some kids, but drawing the line of a kid needing wrestling and a kid taking other kids down Content needs to be relatable, to be blunt Dan Gable posters and old Iowa content do not work (or at least for us) Showing that you are prepared helps a long way to the kids looking up to you as dependable, don't wing practices Give the kids something to want that isn't wrestling.. So we do a lock in, chili supper, jv buffett, a few overnights, xmas break basketball tourney, full team “field trip”, special “black team” gear for varsity at the end, etc... In the offseason, going to places they haven't been to (like kayaking, hiking, etc..) Kids quit when they don't get playing time in any sport, so make sure JV kids get matches, ours will get 18/20 a season We write postcards to every incoming freshman in the summer inviting them out to wrestling, do a free two week elementary league at all of our feed elementary schools and then do a big meet at the end of it (making the high school kids coach at each of the schools before than get any end of the year awards), give out multi sport shorts for kids doing more than one sport, give out preseason shirts, etc... (we make and give away shirts for everything) At the end of the day, wrestling is just the tool you have to impact them

1. While this applies to all coaches, especially where you are make a point be friendly with and work with the other coaches. Especially Basketball. If you become the “angry wrestling guy” you won’t get any support or anything done. 2. Actually follow through on benching kids for discipline issues. Even or especially if it costs you a couple wins. Otherwise culture won’t change. 3. Buy 2pieces. Don’t be the stubborn youth coach that thinks people who nothing about the sport won’t make because singlets seem weird at first. They do t know anything about wrestling culture or have only heard seen the crazy stories or negative stereotypes about things like weight cutting. 4. In general, but especially if coaching by yourself. Find good managers. They’ll be the difference between you making it through sane and with something done or overworked and burnt out. 5. Make starting on time and attendance the most important part of your culture. 6. If you have the numbers, don’t do wrestle offs as the way to determine starters unless both are dedicated. The first way you should decide starters is who’s not skipping practice and not in trouble at school. Otherwise culture and work ethic will not change. 7. find a way to keep track of your kids grades. Be okay with the fact they may have to come to practice late because they need to go to after school tutoring. 8. You will have one of your better kids miss an important match because they’re getting a “haircut” or a family members birthday party. Don’t lose you crap over it. 9. End practice by or before dark if possible or some parents won’t let their kids participate 10. Right when you think they’re turning a corner and about to break out you’ll have a practice or match they flake and don’t show up to. And they won’t understand why you’re upset. Keep building and working they’ll do a little better next time. 11. if you can’t get admin to provide practice clothes. Go to Ross and buy a few pairs of cheap sweatpants and shorts/shirts for kids who forget workout clothes. Managers will do laundry during practice. 12. Don't let them leave competitions without turning in their competition gear. Not because they’ll steal it. But because they’ll often ruin them in the dryer at home when “washing it for you”. If you can afford it have them put numbers(as part of the sublimination)on the gear for inventory purposes. 13. have a parent text or email group. 14. Attendance/waking up for Saturday meets will suck at first. Only schedule tournaments you know for a fact will be out by 2 or so.. or parents will pull their kids. Remember, they know nothing about wrestling culture. It just looks unnecessary and badly run when they go all day. Your kids probably wo t be ready for the bigger tournaments until year 2-4 anyway. 15. really work on and coach top wrestling

What about a 'Cesspool' forum? The mods could just move everything questionable into it and the discussions could continue without requiring blocks/locks/deletes. It'd be like Australia in the old days.