All star classic

[BruceyB]

Just now, Antitroll2828 said:

Wow No penn state that’s super weak on them 

I wanted to say the same thing, but 7 of their starters are wrestling at u23's and Nagao/Davis would have been a downgrade at 141, same with Mirasola at 285, so SVN is really the only guy that is sitting it out.

[Wrestleknownothing]

4 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said:

Wow No penn state that’s super weak on them 

Not when you consider that seven of them plus their training partners will be returning from two weeks overseas three or four days prior.

[Wrestleknownothing]

7 minutes ago, BruceyB said:

I wanted to say the same thing, but 7 of their starters are wrestling at u23's and Nagao/Davis would have been a downgrade at 141, same with Mirasola at 285, so SVN is really the only guy that is sitting it out.

SVN may be a training partner. Bartlett was Lee's and Lee was Retherford's, etc.

[Antitroll2828]

7 minutes ago, BruceyB said:

I wanted to say the same thing, but 7 of their starters are wrestling at u23's and Nagao/Davis would have been a downgrade at 141, same with Mirasola at 285, so SVN is really the only guy that is sitting it out.

I thought probably Kasak at 157 and or SVN at 149

[Wrestleknownothing]

2 minutes ago, Antitroll2828 said:

I thought probably Kasak at 157 and or SVN at 149

I would not be surprised if they are in Serbia too as training partners

[okokzach]

2 hours ago, BruceyB said:

2025 NWCA All-Star Classic Men’s Matchups

125: #4 Eddie Ventresca, Virginia Tech vs #5 Sheldon Seymour, Lehigh

133: #1 Lucas Byrd, Illinois vs #7 Dylan Shawver, Rutgers

141: #1 Jesse Mendez, Ohio State vs #7 Anthony Echemendia

149: #3 Lachlan McNeil, Michigan vs #5 Casey Swiderski, Oklahoma State

157: #4 Daniel Cardenas, Stanford vs #5 Ty Watters, Virginia Tech

165: #4 Hunter Garvin, Stanford vs #7 Max Brignola, Lehigh

174: #3 Simon Ruiz, Cornell vs #8 Lenny Pinto, Rutgers

184: #4 Jaxon Smith, Maryland vs #7 Zack Ryder, Oklahoma State

197: #3 Joey Novak, Wyoming vs #4 Stephen Little, Little Rock

285: #3 Yonger Bastida, Iowa State vs #4 Taye Ghadiali, Michigan

141: D2 Khyvon Grace, West Liberty vs D3 Mark Samuel, Roanoke

Just released by flo.

Not as many 1s and 2s as you'd like but that's a really strong lineup of matches. No PSU, Iowa, or Nebraska guys might hurt viewership, but these are worth tuning in for. The D3 champ vs the D2 runner-up is a cool addition. Ty Watters is WVU btw

Edited 17 hours ago by okokzach

[Coastal]

Shouldn't they call this the Blood Round Classic instead of the All Star?   There really isn't a decent matchup and the over under is 50% of the field snagging an All-American this year.

 

You get Byrd and Mendez and then pair them with marginal competitors.

[okokzach]

30 minutes ago, Coastal said:

Shouldn't they call this the Blood Round Classic instead of the All Star?   There really isn't a decent matchup and the over under is 50% of the field snagging an All-American this year.

You get Byrd and Mendez and then pair them with marginal competitors.

I'll take the over. There are 10 D1 matches, so 20 D1 competitors. Of the 19 who have completed at least one NCAA season, 17 have AA'd. 

[ionel]

3 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

I would not be surprised if they are in Serbia too as training partners

There's clearly no distance Carl won't go to avoid competition. 

[D3 for LU]

3 hours ago, Antitroll2828 said:

Wow No penn state that’s super weak on them 

Ehhhhh... 

On 10/2/2025 at 4:40 PM, ebpsu said:

Most of Penn State's team will be in Serbia at U23's the week prior, so I can't see most of them participating - Davis and SVN are the only two realistic possibilities.

... as ebpsu mentioned above.

I'll be the first to say that I'm anti-nit (it's agin' th' law to have that much power and success as a team & individuals!!!)

BUT... they do have a good portion of their lineup ON that team...

(have a look-see!)

Men’s U23 freestyle

57 kg – Luke Lilledahl (St. Charles, Mo./Nittany Lion WC/Titan Mercury WC)

61 kg – Jax Forrest (Johnstown, Pa./Cowboy RTC/Titan Mercury WC)

65 kg – Marcus Blaze (Perrysburg, Ohio/Perrysburg WC/Titan Mercury WC)

70 kg – PJ Duke (Slate Hill, N.Y./KD Training Center)

74 kg – Mitchell Mesenbrink (Bellefonte, Pa./Nittany Lion WC/Titan Mercury WC)

79 kg – Levi Haines (Arendtsville, Pa./Nittany Lion WC/Titan Mercury WC)

86 kg – Rocco Welsh (Fredericktown, Pa./Nittany Lion WC/Titan Mercury WC)

92 kg – Josh Barr (Davison, Mich./Nittany Lion WC/Titan Mercury WC)

97 kg – Garavous Kouekabakilaho (San Diego, Calif./Viking WC)  

125 kg – Daniel Herrera (Ames, Iowa/Cyclone RTC)

I mean... they're everywhere!

D3

 

[nhs67]

53 minutes ago, D3 for LU said:

Ehhhhh... 

... as ebpsu mentioned above.

I'll be the first to say that I'm anti-nit (it's agin' th' law to have that much power and success as a team & individuals!!!)

BUT... they do have a good portion of their lineup ON that team...

(have a look-see!)

Men’s U23 freestyle

57 kg – Luke Lilledahl (St. Charles, Mo./Nittany Lion WC/Titan Mercury WC)

61 kg – Jax Forrest (Johnstown, Pa./Cowboy RTC/Titan Mercury WC)

65 kg – Marcus Blaze (Perrysburg, Ohio/Perrysburg WC/Titan Mercury WC)

70 kg – PJ Duke (Slate Hill, N.Y./KD Training Center)

74 kg – Mitchell Mesenbrink (Bellefonte, Pa./Nittany Lion WC/Titan Mercury WC)

79 kg – Levi Haines (Arendtsville, Pa./Nittany Lion WC/Titan Mercury WC)

86 kg – Rocco Welsh (Fredericktown, Pa./Nittany Lion WC/Titan Mercury WC)

92 kg – Josh Barr (Davison, Mich./Nittany Lion WC/Titan Mercury WC)

97 kg – Garavous Kouekabakilaho (San Diego, Calif./Viking WC)  

125 kg – Daniel Herrera (Ames, Iowa/Cyclone RTC)

I mean... they're everywhere!

D3

 

See underline bolded... FIFY

Blaze and Duke are both enrolled at Penn State, too.

[Coastal]

1 hour ago, okokzach said:

I'll take the over. There are 10 D1 matches, so 20 D1 competitors. Of the 19 who have completed at least one NCAA season, 17 have AA'd. 

That's a wager then.   We'll come back to this in March.

 

 This won't be the final lineup, it never is, but it's a friendly wager regardless.

[okokzach]

20 minutes ago, Coastal said:

That's a wager then.   We'll come back to this in March.

 This won't be the final lineup, it never is, but it's a friendly wager regardless.

Sure thing. Anyone who misses the postseason for reasons other than poor performance (injury most likely) gets removed from the denominator. 

It should be the final set of matches with it being only a month away, but we will see 

Edited 14 hours ago by okokzach

[boconnell]

4 hours ago, Coastal said:

Shouldn't they call this the Blood Round Classic instead of the All Star?   There really isn't a decent matchup and the over under is 50% of the field snagging an All-American this year.

 

You get Byrd and Mendez and then pair them with marginal competitors.

Do you know what the blood round is?  There isn't a guy ranked below 8 in this list.

[D3 for LU]

11 hours ago, nhs67 said:

See underline bolded... FIFY

Blaze and Duke are both enrolled at Penn State, too.

Tanxs for that clarification, nhs... back of my mind, I was wondering about that too.

I went for the low hanging fruit when most of the gang was part of the Nittany Lion WC.

I DO appreciate that.

D3

[bnwtwg]

Ayala still doesn't want that smoke and we all know Crookham doesn't wrestle he just goes backwards I guess that includes all-star matches too. Byrd is the word and about to be a 2x all-star winner

[Truzzcat]

What are the odds Ech comes out and beats Jesse and absolutely turns the 141 landscape on its head?

[Wrestleknownothing]

For the gamblers in the crowd...

If the pre-season ranks listed above for the twenty wrestlers holds up to be their seeds at the NCAA tournament (they won't), then the over/under for total AA's would be 14.5 (14.7 to be precise).

Will 5 of them get injured or under-perform their pre-season expectations enough to make 10 a reasonable O/U at this point? Sure. I don't know.

But if you can remove injuries from the denominator then I would definitely take the over.