Matt Guana - calls for ice murders

[mspart]

And pretty much anyone cannot condemn such a person for saying ICE agents should be killed.  Very pathetic.

mspart

[ionel]

1 minute ago, red viking said:

Wingers digging DEEP for bad democrats. A "candidate" for "city council" is it a city we've ever heard of? LMFAO. Pretty much anybody can be a city council candidate. Pathetic. 

Good grief man ... anyone can be President ... we proved that. 

[Caveira]

3 minutes ago, red viking said:

Wingers digging DEEP for bad democrats. A "candidate" for "city council" is it a city we've ever heard of? LMFAO. Pretty much anybody can be a city council candidate. Pathetic. 

You’ve never heard of San Antonio Texas?

[jross]

3 minutes ago, red viking said:

Wingers digging DEEP for bad democrats. A "candidate" for "city council" is it a city we've ever heard of? LMFAO. Pretty much anybody can be a city council candidate. Pathetic. 

Come on!  We do not have to dig deep for bad politicians.  Especially democrats.  Especially republicans.

[red viking]

1 minute ago, Caveira said:

You’ve never heard of San Antonio Texas?

A "candidate." Hence, still beyond pathetic. 

[Caveira]

6 minutes ago, red viking said:

A "candidate." Hence, still beyond pathetic. 

Would you or @uncle bernard condemn both this candidate and the people who just tried to kill ICE officers?

[mspart]

oooooooo  the challenge is on!!   Will they rise to the occasion and do the right thing or will they do what they always do?   Enquiring minds are watching.   Prediction, they will not condemn and assert this guy is a nobody and not worth commenting on. 

mspart

[red viking]

3 minutes ago, mspart said:

oooooooo  the challenge is on!!   Will they rise to the occasion and do the right thing or will they do what they always do?   Enquiring minds are watching.   Prediction, they will not condemn and assert this guy is a nobody and not worth commenting on. 

mspart

Are we really comparing a city council candidate to the u.s. President? WOW!!

Flabbergasted. That's all I can say. 

Should I find some whack job winger city council candidates? They're a dime per bakers dozen. 

[Scouts Honor]

2 hours ago, Bigbrog said:

Cav told you who he is...is that all you are worried about versus the actual message??

yes

[mspart]

Ding ding ding ding.    I'm the winner.   I predicted the response.   Or at least what the response would not say.  Beyond pathetic.  After multiple chances, I can only conclude that RV wants ICE agents dead same as this candidate.   UB's turn!!

mspart

Edited Wednesday at 09:39 PM by mspart

[Scouts Honor]

2 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

He has less than 500 followers. You guys are a joke. 

Where were you when a Laura Loomer, someone who has personally met with Trump, implied she wanted to kill every Latino in Ameriica. You didn't seem all that concerned then.

is one dead ICE agent enough? 

[1032004]

15 hours ago, mspart said:

Should we care about him?   Probably not unless he says he wants to see ICE agents dead.   Then you should start to care about him and all those who he influences.  Not because he runs for a city council, but because he said that.

You would definitely take  notice if some obscure guy said he can't wait to see trans folks dead on the streets.   You would call it another piece of evidence that that conservatives are bad.   Funny that you won't do that for liberal/progressive/socialist/anarchist crazies. 

mspart

Yes, what this guy said is reprehensible (and the random pediatrician too while we’re at it).  But no, I don’t particularly care what some random person that no one knows says, on either side of the aisle, unless it’s something that a lot of people are saying. And if a lot of people are saying it that usually includes people that we actually know who they are.

15 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Well, I mean, you are taking the time to continue to comment and look him up.  But I will ask in response, do you believe people broadcasting ideas on social media, regardless of their background, can influence others who read those ideas?  Particularly others who may not be so sound and stable in mental health? And do you care about LEO being killed in the field, regardless of whether or not you agree with their orders?  

Yes, people broadcasting ideas on social media can influence others.  That usually requires people to actually be following them though.  This guy has 477 followers.  Laura Loomer has 1.7 million.  To equate the two like @mspart does below is silly.  Also most probably should know Loomer, she was previously an advisor to Trump and had accompanied him on various trips, and if I was a betting man, had an affair with him even though she looks gross.  I think he ultimately dumped her in both capacities though after realizing how crazy she was.

13 hours ago, mspart said:

I believe there is a difference between saying you want to save money and you want people dead.   One is, on the extreme map, WAY MORE extreme than the other. 

To be clear, Loomer saying all latinos need to die is reprehensible.   The city council candidate saying he wants ICE agents dead is reprehensible.  Your local candidate saying Vets should be tossed on the street is reprehensible.   Vets served our country and deserve our thanks and support.   The VA is bloated and a huge bureaucracy that needs to go.   The function needs to stay but in a more efficient manner and one that serves the needs of vets 1000% better.

mspart

 

Edited Thursday at 10:40 AM by 1032004

[uncle bernard]

16 hours ago, WrestlingRasta said:

Come on man. You not only literally rephrased your question when you got the first answer, but also took the time to look him up.  It wasn’t rhetorical, it was an attempt to downplay. Why can’t it just be a terrible thing to do, instead of mimicking the same brush aside people on the other side of your stances do?   Which goes to the question I asked you…and it wasn’t rhetorical. 

Yes, that was the purpose of the rhetorical question. 

It is a terrible thing to do. My point had nothing to do with that and everything to do with Caveira trying imply this guy was a major democratic party figure when in actuality he's a random crank college student running for a city council seat in a random city.

I'm not going to pretend there isn't a difference between an *actual* democrat politician saying these things and some random guy. One is far more serious than the other, and that doesn't excuse what this guy said at all. It just means I'm not going to jump on an outrage train about it like Caveira is trying to start. It would not be hard to find examples of random conservatives advocating violence on twitter. I'm not going to pretend the Republican Party has to answer for every one of them. That's ridiculous.

[uncle bernard]

15 hours ago, Caveira said:

Would you or @uncle bernard condemn both this candidate and the people who just tried to kill ICE officers?

obviously. 

while we're wasting time, do you condemn pedophilia? your silence on this issue has been deafening. 

[uncle bernard]

15 hours ago, mspart said:

oooooooo  the challenge is on!!   Will they rise to the occasion and do the right thing or will they do what they always do?   Enquiring minds are watching.   Prediction, they will not condemn and assert this guy is a nobody and not worth commenting on. 

mspart

At every point on this forum, most notably with Hamas, I've always condemned the people you want me to condemn, and it never matters to you. You just pretend I didn't and carry on with your blabbering.

[WrestlingRasta]

2 hours ago, uncle bernard said:

Yes, that was the purpose of the rhetorical question. 

It is a terrible thing to do. My point had nothing to do with that and everything to do with Caveira trying imply this guy was a major democratic party figure when in actuality he's a random crank college student running for a city council seat in a random city.

I'm not going to pretend there isn't a difference between an *actual* democrat politician saying these things and some random guy. One is far more serious than the other, and that doesn't excuse what this guy said at all. It just means I'm not going to jump on an outrage train about it like Caveira is trying to start. It would not be hard to find examples of random conservatives advocating violence on twitter. I'm not going to pretend the Republican Party has to answer for every one of them. That's ridiculous.

@Caveira didn't imply anything.  His original post was very direct.  Regardless of his following he is a candidate.  He did not say he was a major candidate, in fact he didn't even include that he was a candidate in one of Texas' most major cities.  Saying San Antonio is 'some random city' is not a very good thing for you to say when you are trying to argue someone is trying to imply something.  Lastly he even ended his original post with "is this guy for real".   Pretty much that exact opposite of trying to imply he is a major figure.  

You have certainly jumped on an outrage train, when if you didn't feel you needed to be concerned with this, you could have just easily moved on to the next thread, without having to rephrase questions when you don't like the answer, without taking the time to look the guy up so you can find a reason to disregard his comments.   But outrage seems to be your chosen path here, and for that, as I said in my response to you in the other thread you me to on this, is something for you to take some self inventory.  

Carry on with the last word, if you must.  

[Caveira]

11 minutes ago, WrestlingRasta said:

@Caveira didn't imply anything.  His original post was very direct.  Regardless of his following he is a candidate.  He did not say he was a major candidate, in fact he didn't even include that he was a candidate in one of Texas' most major cities.  Saying San Antonio is 'some random city' is not a very good thing for you to say when you are trying to argue someone is trying to imply something.  Lastly he even ended his original post with "is this guy for real".   Pretty much that exact opposite of trying to imply he is a major figure.  

You have certainly jumped on an outrage train, when if you didn't feel you needed to be concerned with this, you could have just easily moved on to the next thread, without having to rephrase questions when you don't like the answer, without taking the time to look the guy up so you can find a reason to disregard his comments.   But outrage seems to be your chosen path here, and for that, as I said in my response to you in the other thread you me to on this, is something for you to take some self inventory.  

Carry on with the last word, if you must.  

Calls for violence from dems is not a new thing.   Especially with ice.  
 

Pramila Jayapal d rep from wa, Hakeem jeffreys, Michelle wu (mayor of Boston), and Tim jazz hands Walz have all said things about ice recently that could be construed as calling for violence against them.  
 

You also still haven’t denounced the low level d dip shyte in Texas or the 10 terrorists who tried to ambush and kill ice officers.    No main line dems have denounced this either.  

[WrestlingRasta]

2 minutes ago, Caveira said:

Calls for violence from dems is not a new thing.   Especially with ice.  
 

Pramila Jayapal d rep from wa, Hakeem jeffreys, Michelle wu (mayor of Boston), and Tim jazz hands Walz have all said things about ice recently that could be construed as calling for violence against them.  
 

You also still haven’t denounced the low level d dip shyte in Texas or the 10 terrorists who tried to ambush and kill ice officers.    No main line dems have denounced this either.  

Ummmmm....I have, in an ongoing conversation with uncle b and 103......including in the very post you quoted, of which I was clearly siding with you.

Are you okay??