Bo Bachelor round 2

[Dark Energy]

Really hoping to experience a new countdown.  Maybe he can start with 30 schools and eliminate 2 a week.  Shrink it down just a bit.  Was so much fun.

[Truzzcat]

Just now, Dark Energy said:

Really hoping to experience a new countdown.  Maybe he can start with 30 schools and eliminate 2 a week.  Shrink it down just a bit.  Was so much fun.

Sounds like its PSU, Okie state, Nebraska. So I am expecting either he commits quickly to PSU or we do not know for a long time so he can train there.

[JimmyCinnabon]

13 minutes ago, Dark Energy said:

Really hoping to experience a new countdown.  Maybe he can start with 30 schools and eliminate 2 a week.  Shrink it down just a bit.  Was so much fun.

30 teams? Sounds like a Royal Rumble to me. Get one coach from 30 teams and the winner of the Rumble gets Bo!

[VakAttack]

Honestly, the more I hear about this situation, the less annoyed I am at the staff.

[CHROMEBIRD]

27 minutes ago, Dark Energy said:

Really hoping to experience a new countdown.  Maybe he can start with 30 schools and eliminate 2 a week.  Shrink it down just a bit.  Was so much fun.

He should add 2 new schools to his recruiting mix every week

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

3 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

Honestly, the more I hear about this situation, the less annoyed I am at the staff.

Iowa may have dodged a bullet (or two or three).

[BarSeries]

So, when is the dual-commitment watch party on Flo going down with Bo and Melvin?

[CHROMEBIRD]

The paid flights thing is weird and the loosely rumored $5M or whatever is hilarious. After BB committed to Iowa, he literally said that he had higher offers from other programs on the table but his decision wasn't about the money. I wonder though if his decommitment will sting him a little bit financially. His NIL will have to go through the clearinghouse now, and will be limited by the annual salary cap. Donors can still earmark contributions to wrestling, but it'll still come at the expense of other sports (e.g., football), which ADs may not love.

If I'm being honest though, the decision is probably good for Bassett's wrestling. In many ways, he's the prototypical Iowa wrestler. Strong, aggressive, pushes himself extremely hard, bullies opponents, never lets up. Those aren't bad things by any means, but why commit to a place that will develop what you're already great at? He needs a coach that will level up his technique and training style. It's not hard to imagine BB at Iowa smoking 95% of his opponents, then getting outfunked/caught at Nationals. Or overtraining and getting hurt late in the season. We've seen it happen many times before.

[Wrestleknownothing]

1 hour ago, Wrasslin said:

If you're hungry for the inside scoop and unique insights around the Bassett situation...you can go ahead and skip today's FloWrestling Radio Live (FRL). I sat (suffered) through it, so you don't have to...45 minutes of pure conjecture.  I'll never take this forum for granted again. 

Why go to Flo for 45 minutes of conjecture when you can get days of it here?

[boconnell]

28 minutes ago, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Iowa may have dodged a bullet (or two or three).

Get out of here.  An attention starved but ultra hard working and committed guy with tons of talent is a dream compared to most young men a coach could hope to be responsible for. 

[JimmyCinnabon]

Mrs. Bassett on the phone with Tom Brands.

[Coastal]

17 minutes ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

 

If I'm being honest though, the decision is probably good for Bassett's wrestling. In many ways, he's the prototypical Iowa wrestler. Strong, aggressive, pushes himself extremely hard, bullies opponents, never lets up. Those aren't bad things by any means, but why commit to a place that will develop what you're already great at? He needs a coach that will level up his technique and training style. It's not hard to imagine BB at Iowa smoking 95% of his opponents, then getting outfunked/caught at Nationals. Or overtraining and getting hurt late in the season. We've seen it happen many times before.

The Brands' philosophy of not practicing until you can get a move right but practicing so much you can't get it wrong is great for beating inferior opponents but is so easy for equal opponents to exploit.  RBY hides an arm and Desanto looks like he's never wrestled before.  Lee never developed a go to takedown or scrambling because he'd just tilt everyone into oblivion.  Marinelli developed his upper body series but got beaten like a dog whenever someone refused to engage at NCAAs.   Ayala's entire offense seems to consist of a throwby.

The old tough guy approach of we don't need to adapt, others need to adapt to us just lead to wrestlers getting beaten when if counts after beating the same opponent earlier in the year. 

You are correct that Bassett doesn't need to reinforce what he does well.  He needs to focus on some more leg attacks as his pace is a weapon but as Stanich showed, he's not super athletic and has trouble getting through head/hands

[1032004]

41 minutes ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

The paid flights thing is weird and the loosely rumored $5M or whatever is hilarious. After BB committed to Iowa, he literally said that he had higher offers from other programs on the table but his decision wasn't about the money.

Did he actually say someone else offered more?  I don’t recall that, IIRC he said something like “all the dollar offers were comparable”

[VakAttack]

 

Feeling less and less annoyed.

[Rassling2]

1 hour ago, VakAttack said:

Honestly, the more I hear about this situation, the less annoyed I am at the staff.

I recall an interview with Kemmerer where one of the brands bros drove from Iowa to PA to convince him to stay with the program.  For some reason your post immediately reminded me of this.

[Rassling2]

1 minute ago, VakAttack said:

 

Feeling less and less annoyed.

Was it all about the green backs?

[CHROMEBIRD]

9 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

Did he actually say someone else offered more?  I don’t recall that, IIRC he said something like “all the dollar offers were comparable”

I'm going off of what I remember seeing either on here or on socials, so you may be right. It would still indicate that his decision didn't hinge on NIL. Either way, I wonder if BB realizes that the big bag days are over, or will at least be watered-down, now that the House settlement is final.

[Truzzcat]

11 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

 

Feeling less and less annoyed.

Both PJ and Marcus have voiced in interviews that most if not all of their training had been at home with their clubs' teams until they move in on the 28th. They are both within 5 hours of PSU I believe I think they are hyper fixated on what Jax has been doing.

[Voice of the Quakers]

The older I get, the more I realize that money is the source and solution to every problem in life.

O/U for further college commitments by Bo Bassett: 1.5

O/U for transfers once Bo Bassett enrolls in college: 1.5

I'm so happy my alma mater, for the most part, is not in this line of business.

[1032004]

4 minutes ago, CHROMEBIRD said:

I'm going off of what I remember seeing either on here or on socials, so you may be right. It would still indicate that his decision didn't hinge on NIL. Either way, I wonder if BB realizes that the big bag days are over, or will at least be watered-down, now that the House settlement is final.

I am skeptical of this, I assume there will be easy workarounds, but TBD I guess.

[1032004]

1 hour ago, Truzzcat said:

Sounds like its PSU, Okie state, Nebraska. So I am expecting either he commits quickly to PSU or we do not know for a long time so he can train there.

If teams not allowing high school guys to train at the RTC because they committed to a different college isn’t definitive proof that RTC’s aren’t “separate” from the college programs, then I don’t know what is.

I know PJ Duke mentioned that Lehigh was I believe the only RTC in his vicinity that allowed him to train there after he committed to PSU, so kudos to them.

 

[Mr. PeanutButter]

45 minutes ago, Coastal said:

The Brands' philosophy of not practicing until you can get a move right but practicing so much you can't get it wrong is great for beating inferior opponents but is so easy for equal opponents to exploit.  RBY hides an arm and Desanto looks like he's never wrestled before.  Lee never developed a go to takedown or scrambling because he'd just tilt everyone into oblivion.  Marinelli developed his upper body series but got beaten like a dog whenever someone refused to engage at NCAAs.   Ayala's entire offense seems to consist of a throwby.

The old tough guy approach of we don't need to adapt, others need to adapt to us just lead to wrestlers getting beaten when if counts after beating the same opponent earlier in the year. 

You are correct that Bassett doesn't need to reinforce what he does well.  He needs to focus on some more leg attacks as his pace is a weapon but as Stanich showed, he's not super athletic and has trouble getting through head/hands

I agree with a good portion of what you wrote here but including Lee was a smooth brained move and shows that either your judgement is clouded or you never watched much of him wrestle. Even Ben Askren had him at the top of his list of best scramblers in the country

[dragit]

2 hours ago, Wrasslin said:

If you're hungry for the inside scoop and unique insights around the Bassett situation...you can go ahead and skip today's FloWrestling Radio Live (FRL). I sat (suffered) through it, so you don't have to...45 minutes of pure conjecture.  I'll never take this forum for granted again. 

Me too.  I thought the show would be a good place to get a sense of what was going on but it was brutal.  First it took about two minutes to get to the show on the website playback.  I mean, this is a technology company, why are there always technical issues??  Then they had zero substance on Bassett.  I think someone said they thought it was a compliance issue.  No specifics, nothing.  Willie's podcast was much, much better.  And to be clear, I am not a Flo hater, and I generally enjoy the FRL broadcasts for entertainment value.  But they need to do some thinking about what it means to be a leader in covering a sport if they want to be looked at that way.

[Coastal]

1 minute ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

I agree with a good portion of what you wrote here but including Lee was a smooth brained move and shows that either your judgement is clouded or you never watched much of him wrestle. Even Ben Askren had him at the top of his list of best scramblers in the country

Matt Ramos also had him on his list of best scramblers.

Lee's scrambling technique was to not get in scrambles.  His insane grip strength made traditional scrambling and funk a losing proposition for most so they either backed out of the scramble or bailed.   Watch every match of his and count how many opponents tried ankle passes and the like.

[Truzzcat]

8 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

If teams not allowing high school guys to train at the RTC because they committed to a different college isn’t definitive proof that RTC’s aren’t “separate” from the college programs, then I don’t know what is.

I know PJ Duke mentioned that Lehigh was I believe the only RTC in his vicinity that allowed him to train there after he committed to PSU, so kudos to them.

 

I think the workaround is that college guys are not allowed in the same practice room. I agree it's a very grey area. I know Marcus trained a lot at Ohio state prior to his commitment.