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4 minutes ago, Winners Circle said:

Have a hard time believing he won't be able to against most, if not all people.

But Byrd and Crookham? 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Truzzcat said:

Ono vs Crookham is a very interesting matchup. Ono can get to his legs but I wonder if he can finish. A lot of those positions where guys get takedowns in free are a results of guys fighting in off the edge. Crookham will care less if Ono gets to his leg and pushes him out.

until he gets warned and then gives up stall points. 

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On 5/21/2025 at 6:57 AM, Gene Mills Fan said:

college Freshman get ridden mostly because they are 18 year olds wrestling 21-22 yr olds not because they don't have folkstyle experience. Ono is not freshman. On top his gut or trap arm are enough or he just cuts everyone all season long and goes neutral to score a zillion points

They get ridden because they're not used to that level of Wrestling... but at least they have SOME exposure to it.

They don't get ridden just because someone is 4 years older. 

As for his gut...yeah, that's gonna be a bit of a problem in Folkstyle for pretty obvious reasons. He's also Wrestling people who aren't trying to get away in Freestyle. So that's an enormous difference. 

Posted
22 hours ago, Winners Circle said:

He beat Vito 10-6 and 8-4 and both matches were 1 point until the 3rd period when he got a match sealing takedown. I wouldn't call that "soundly". He also was beat by Vito 13-3, who Ono teched in just over 4 minutes. Yes, I know free is different than folk. But I'm must playing devil's advocate. 

I call a Freshmen finishing each match with a TD over a defending Champ...both NCAA and World....to be soundly beating him. 

And he gave up the 1st TD. So Crookham came from down 3-1 and won 10-5. That's...really controlling most of that match.

I also never said Vito didn't end up winning it, I pointed out that as a Freshmen...Crookham beat Vito twice. That's it.  

 

Posted
8 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

They get ridden because they're not used to that level of Wrestling... but at least they have SOME exposure to it.

They don't get ridden just because someone is 4 years older. 

As for his gut...yeah, that's gonna be a bit of a problem in Folkstyle for pretty obvious reasons. He's also Wrestling people who aren't trying to get away in Freestyle. So that's an enormous difference. 

By 3-4 yrs older I meant NCAA experience and level of wrestling or physicality. He's experienced both.

I would put a small amount money down that he does not give up a riding point all year if you would like to wager. Maybe a Nagau or McCrone type but I'll risk it, and go with his power and quickness.  

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Just now, Gene Mills Fan said:

By 3-4 yrs older I meant NCAA experience and level of wrestling or physicality. He's experienced both.

1-No, he doesn't. He's experienced zero NCAA Wrestling yet. In fact, has he EVER Wrestled ANY Folkstyle match?

It's kinda amazing you think these kids coming out of HS are struggling because of the Physical Maturity rather than the adjustment to a different level of Wrestling, but you think it's going to be EASIER for a guy who has NEVER done it to be able to get out on bottom?

Marcus Blaze, Jax Forrest-Not as physical, 3-4 years younger than the guys they'll be Wrestling.

I promise they'll have less trouble on bottom than a guy who has never done it before. 

 

5 minutes ago, Gene Mills Fan said:

I would put a small amount money down that he does not give up a riding point all year if you would like to wager. Maybe a Nagau or McCrone type but I'll risk it, and go with his power and quickness.  

....no. Because I don't think he'll TAKE the bottom position. If you want to account for that, then absolutely I'd bet you. 

He takes bottom vs Crookham, he's wearing a saddle. Though I assume he won't be stupid enough to. 

Posted
9 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

1-No, he doesn't. He's experienced zero NCAA Wrestling yet. In fact, has he EVER Wrestled ANY Folkstyle match?

It's kinda amazing you think these kids coming out of HS are struggling because of the Physical Maturity rather than the adjustment to a different level of Wrestling, but you think it's going to be EASIER for a guy who has NEVER done it to be able to get out on bottom?

Marcus Blaze, Jax Forrest-Not as physical, 3-4 years younger than the guys they'll be Wrestling.

I promise they'll have less trouble on bottom than a guy who has never done it before. 

 

....no. Because I don't think he'll TAKE the bottom position. If you want to account for that, then absolutely I'd bet you. 

He takes bottom vs Crookham, he's wearing a saddle. Though I assume he won't be stupid enough to. 

if hes going to have a problem bet. Send me a message before the Lehigh dual!

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