Is This the year OSU beats Iowa?

[AgaveMaria]

Febuary 2019 is the last time Oklahoma State beat Iowa in a dual meet.

New coach David Taylor's first effort was a good one but his guys met an Iowa squad ready & willing to scrap with them.

Will they do it this year? Will a year in the room & getting "his guys" into the rotation make the difference?

Tom Brands loves handing it to the Cowboys. Will his guys do it again this coming season?

[BruceyB]

8 minutes ago, AgaveMaria said:

Febuary 2019 is the last time Oklahoma State beat Iowa in a dual meet.

New coach David Taylor's first effort was a good one but his guys met an Iowa squad ready & willing to scrap with them.

Will they do it this year? Will a year in the room & getting "his guys" into the rotation make the difference?

Tom Brands loves handing it to the Cowboys. Will his guys do it again this coming season?

125	Spratley	vs	Peterson
133	Figueroa	vs	Ayala
141	Hughes/Jamison	vs	Bailey
149	Swiderski	vs	Williams/Alvarez
157	Jamison/Travis	vs	Williams/Alvarez
165	Lockett	vs	Caliendo
174	Facundo	vs	Kennedy
184	Ryder	vs	Ferrari
197	Merrill	vs	Masome
285	Doucet	vs	Keuter

[Hammerlock3]

If they don't Taylor should get fired

[headshuck]

"his guys"

Have his guys ever been in the same room at the same time yet?

[Spencerlee]

33 minutes ago, BruceyB said:

125	Spratley	vs	Peterson
133	Figueroa	vs	Ayala
141	Hughes/Jamison	vs	Bailey
149	Swiderski	vs	Williams/Alvarez
157	Jamison/Travis	vs	Williams/Alvarez
165	Lockett	vs	Caliendo
174	Facundo	vs	Kennedy
184	Ryder	vs	Ferrari
197	Merrill	vs	Masome
285	Doucet	vs	Keuter

Iowa 7-3

[Mr. PeanutButter]

1 hour ago, BruceyB said:

125	Spratley	vs	Peterson
133	Figueroa	vs	Ayala
141	Hughes/Jamison	vs	Bailey
149	Swiderski	vs	Williams/Alvarez
157	Jamison/Travis	vs	Williams/Alvarez
165	Lockett	vs	Caliendo
174	Facundo	vs	Kennedy
184	Ryder	vs	Ferrari
197	Merrill	vs	Masome
285	Doucet	vs	Keuter

I got a 5-5 split but OSU gets bonus at 125 for the team win. Lots of toss ups though

[MLB9]

The lineups right now look more favorable for Iowa, think OSU’s a year or two away

[Truzzcat]

2 hours ago, BruceyB said:

125	Spratley	vs	Peterson
133	Figueroa	vs	Ayala
141	Hughes/Jamison	vs	Bailey
149	Swiderski	vs	Williams/Alvarez
157	Jamison/Travis	vs	Williams/Alvarez
165	Lockett	vs	Caliendo
174	Facundo	vs	Kennedy
184	Ryder	vs	Ferrari
197	Merrill	vs	Masome
285	Doucet	vs	Keuter

going to be completely honest I think with these two lineups each team has 1 for sure win 125 for OKST and 285 for Iowa. Iowa is definitely favored at 133,165,174,184 but those all feel like matches OKST could win. I think I would favor OKST at 149. 157 and Bailey 141 who knows if Bailey is healthy at 141 I would favor him.

[Truzzcat]

2027
 

	125 Spratley vs Deluca 133 Forrest/Ramirez vs Raney 141 Vega/Forrest vs Bailey/Raney 149 Swiderski/Vega vs Bassett 157 Robideau vs Williams 165 Lockett vs Transfer 174 Facundo vs Arnold 184 Ryder vs Ferrari 197 Merrill vs Ludington 285 Ross vs Keuter
	this feels like Oklahoma state 7-3/6-4 to me

[Spencerlee]

1 hour ago, Mr. PeanutButter said:

I got a 5-5 split but OSU gets bonus at 125 for the team win. Lots of toss ups though

Troy Spratley is not getting bonus on Dean Peterson.

[BruceyB]

4 hours ago, Truzzcat said:

2027
 

	125 Spratley vs Deluca 133 Forrest/Ramirez vs Raney 141 Vega/Forrest vs Bailey/Raney 149 Swiderski/Vega vs Bassett 157 Robideau vs Williams 165 Lockett vs Transfer 174 Facundo vs Arnold 184 Ryder vs Ferrari 197 Merrill vs Ludington 285 Ross vs Keuter
	this feels like Oklahoma state 7-3/6-4 to me

why tf are we talking about 27 truzz?

[BruceyB]

125: Spratley dec. Peterson (3-0 OSU)

133: Ayala dec. Figs (3-3) Figs is 1-0 against Ayala though IIRC?

141: Jamison dec. Bailey (6-3 OSU)

149: Swiderski dec. Williams/Alvarez (9-3 OSU)

157: Williams/Alvarez dec. Travis (9-6 OSU)

165: Caliendo dec. Lockett (9-9)

174: Kennedy dec. Facundo (12-9 IOWA) I actually think this is a complete toss-up

184: Ferrari dec. Ryder (15-9 IOWA)

197: Merrill dec. Masome (15-12 IOWA)

285: Keuter dec. Doucet (18-12 IOWA)

That being said, I wouldn't be very surprised to see results flip at 125, 133, 157, 165, 174, or 184. I think all of those matches are within the margins. That's potential for a lot of swing in the dual. It should be a treat. I see more upside for OSU than Iowa, but Iowa seems to be a clear favorite going in, so that makes sense.

[flyingcement]

I'd like to hear Gilman as a color commentator for this one

[flyingcement]

5 hours ago, Spencerlee said:

Troy Spratley is not getting bonus on Dean Peterson.

With three point takedown and four back points it's a lot easier than it once was

[NotThatDave]

15 hours ago, Hammerlock3 said:

If they don't Taylor should get fired

@AgaveMaria wants David Taylor fired just for chewing gum anyway.

[Winners Circle]

16 hours ago, AgaveMaria said:

Febuary 2019 is the last time Oklahoma State beat Iowa in a dual meet.

New coach David Taylor's first effort was a good one but his guys met an Iowa squad ready & willing to scrap with them.

Will they do it this year? Will a year in the room & getting "his guys" into the rotation make the difference?

Tom Brands loves handing it to the Cowboys. Will his guys do it again this coming season?

125: Spratley dec Peterson. 3-0 

133: Ayala dec. Figs. 3-3

141: Jamison/Vega dec Bailey 6-3. 

149: Swiderski dec Williams. 9-3 

157: Robideau dec Alvarez. 12-3 .

• Caveat: If it's Teague, I'll say Alvarez dec. Teague. 9-6 &nbsp

165: Caliendo dec. Lockett. 12-6  (or 9-9)

174: PK dec. Facundo. 12-9  (or 12-9 )

184: Ferrari dec. Ryder. 12-12 (or 15-9 )

197: Merrill mdec. Endene 16-12  (or 15-13 )

285: Keuter mdec. Doucet 16-16  (or 19-13 )

As a cowboy fan, I see a path, but I'm not holding my breath. The path includes: Alvarez not getting another year, Dee Lockett upsetting Caliendo, Ryder upsetting Ferrari, or Figs upsetting Ayala. I don't feel confident about any of those things happening (except maybe Alvarez not getting another year).

[ionel]

8 hours ago, flyingcement said:

I'd like to hear Gilman as a color commentator for this one

The dual being in GIA I'll bet a bag of Bob's cash   we don't hear the gillyman on the color.  

[juniorvarsity]

It is is a tossup but def lean Okie State. They could both win 7

[alex1fly]

Who knows. Bunch of newbies on both teams. It'll probably come down to which coach chews better.

[PortaJohn]

1 hour ago, Winners Circle said:

Figs upsetting Ayala

Wouldn't consider that an upset

[boconnell]

2 hours ago, Winners Circle said:

125: Spratley dec Peterson. 3-0 

133: Ayala dec. Figs. 3-3

141: Jamison/Vega dec Bailey 6-3. 

149: Swiderski dec Williams. 9-3 

157: Robideau dec Alvarez. 12-3 .

• Caveat: If it's Teague, I'll say Alvarez dec. Teague. 9-6 &nbsp

165: Caliendo dec. Lockett. 12-6  (or 9-9)

174: PK dec. Facundo. 12-9  (or 12-9 )

184: Ferrari dec. Ryder. 12-12 (or 15-9 )

197: Merrill mdec. Endene 16-12  (or 15-13 )

285: Keuter mdec. Doucet 16-16  (or 19-13 )

As a cowboy fan, I see a path, but I'm not holding my breath. The path includes: Alvarez not getting another year, Dee Lockett upsetting Caliendo, Ryder upsetting Ferrari, or Figs upsetting Ayala. I don't feel confident about any of those things happening (except maybe Alvarez not getting another year).

Doucet isn't getting majored.  He wrestled the entire 2024 season and didn't get majored by Bastida, Elam, Schultz (2X), or Keuter.  If you go back to 2023 he lost to Elam, Cassiopi, and Mason Parris without them coming close to bonus. But Wyatt Hendrickson did major him 12-3 that year.  That's the only time in his career going all the way back to 2021 that he's been majored.  Wyatt is actually the only opponent to score 8 points in a match against him (let alone beat him by 8).  He's a classic staller who will not be majored.

Edited 4 hours ago by boconnell

[Winners Circle]

4 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

Wouldn't consider that an upset

Ayala was 2nd at 133, Figs went 1-2 at 125. It would be an upset.

[PortaJohn]

Just now, Winners Circle said:

Ayala was 2nd at 133, Figs went 1-2 at 125. It would be an upset.

We have history between the two.  Figs won 7-2 at NCAA's '24.  He'll have an entire season at 133 under his belt to adjust.  If he fills in to the weight nicely than they go into the match as a toss up

[Winners Circle]

2 minutes ago, PortaJohn said:

We have history between the two.  Figs won 7-2 at NCAA's '24.  He'll have an entire season at 133 under his belt to adjust.  If he fills in to the weight nicely than they go into the match as a toss up

So you would rather use a reference point from TWO NCAA tournaments ago, instead of the most recent one?

According to Wrestlestat, Ayala is ranked #3 and Figs is #8. FloWrestling has Ayala #4 and Figs #8. @Husker_Du hasn't updated Crystal Ball since Figs transferred, but he had Ayala 3rd and I don't see him having Figs higher than him. I'm not saying he can't do it. But it would abolsutely be an upset.

[PortaJohn]

Just now, Winners Circle said:

So you would rather use a reference point from TWO NCAA tournaments ago, instead of the most recent one?

According to Wrestlestat, Ayala is ranked #3 and Figs is #8. FloWrestling has Ayala #4 and Figs #8. @Husker_Du hasn't updated Crystal Ball since Figs transferred, but he had Ayala 3rd and I don't see him having Figs higher than him. I'm not saying he can't do it. But it would abolsutely be an upset.

Yes, I prefer to use actual results and I said "if" he fills in to the weight nicely