NCAA Rule Change Proposals

[ionel]

I personally don't see a problem with our current folkstyle rules.  What i do see is a problem with the consistency in refs calling the rules ... see this year NCAA finals as example.

I do think there is a problem with the brick.  We have coaches that are gaming the match with their brick throw.  It might be a tournament and they know they have plenty of bricks remaining or might be a dual and they know they really shouldn't need one for remaining matches. 

Current guy might be gassed or flat on stomach and needs a reset so throw a brick for locked hands or something.  No downside in that match even if lose the brick cause they get the reset.

I propose if you lose the call then lose the brick and your wrestler also receives a stall call.  Thus it impacts the current match and wrestler.

Also propose a time limit for review.  This could work for any/all sports.  Lest say once the call is pushed thru for review in wrestling they have 2 minutes.  If they can't see anything by 2 then it stays as called on the mat and quickly wrestle on. 

 

[alex1fly]

Riding time stops with a top man stall call, when does it restart?

 

[No BS Fan]

Why not give a stall call for a lost challenge?

[Not creative name]

3 hours ago, ionel said:

Also propose a time limit for review.  This could work for any/all sports.  Lest say once the call is pushed thru for review in wrestling they have 2 minutes.  If they can't see anything by 2 then it stays as called on the mat and quickly wrestle on. 

 

i don't think i agree with this.  the point of a review is make sure a call was correct and somebody isn't screwed over. if the limit is set to 2 minutes this could defeat the purpose of making sure a call is correct. while long-ass review times can stink, it seems best to just deal with it.

[Coastal]

25 minutes ago, Not creative name said:

i don't think i agree with this.  the point of a review is make sure a call was correct and somebody isn't screwed over. if the limit is set to 2 minutes this could defeat the purpose of making sure a call is correct. while long-ass review times can stink, it seems best to just deal with it.

Correct is important but if one has to watch it 20 times to make a decision, the call on the mat should stand.   It really should be to correct clear and obvious errors.     I am all for a brick costing a point if losing the challenge.

[Not creative name]

11 minutes ago, Coastal said:

Correct is important but if one has to watch it 20 times to make a decision, the call on the mat should stand.   It really should be to correct clear and obvious errors.     I am all for a brick costing a point if losing the challenge.

if the reviewers need to watch 20 times that is the fault of the reviewers, not the brick being thrown. the reviewers might need better training, brushing up on rules, etc to make it more efficient.

[rsotelo]

I'd love to see one point awarded for every minute of riding time.  This is folkstyle wrestling, not freestyle.  It is about control and not exposure.  If you cannot escape, you should be penalized for it accordingly.  To me, not allowing your opponent to get away means you are controlling him

[ionel]

3 hours ago, Not creative name said:

i don't think i agree with this.  the point of a review is make sure a call was correct and somebody isn't screwed over. if the limit is set to 2 minutes this could defeat the purpose of making sure a call is correct. while long-ass review times can stink, it seems best to just deal with it.

But what if they review for 5 to 10 minutes and then get it wrong.  I've seen the review get it wrong.  Should we give the other coach a free brick and review the review for another 5 to 10 minutes.  If you can't see it in 5 slow replays then maybe it isn't there to see and we can just trust the two refs on the mat.  

[D3 for LU]

There has to be SOME kind of limit... it's not like the decision is a matter of LIFE or DEATH (though , for some, it feels Just Like That. )

D3

[Cornell Kevin]

12 hours ago, alex1fly said:

Riding time stops with a top man stall call, when does it restart?

 

I wondered that myself. 

Would it stop moving in that wrestlers advantage for the remaining duration of that period? 

Or would it be for as long as he is on top before the bottom wrestler escapes or reverses?  Meaning if he gives up an escape and gets another takedown that period, the riding time would then go again for him?  

Who knows. Not many details on some of these rules.