Iowa is favored over PSU in the dual for sure

[buckshot]

I've tried to watch Andor three separate times and I just can't get into it.

[MLB9]

  On 1/22/2023 at 3:03 PM, buckshot said:

I've tried to watch Andor three separate times and I just can't get into it.

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I think it’s pretty good, I’m on Ep9 right now. Have you seen the Last of Us? HBO does things right

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

To get out in front of it, yes, I stand by my predictions even after Iowa's narrow win today over Wisconsin.

[Perry]

  On 1/21/2023 at 10:00 PM, Pinnacle said:

You got Siebrecht beating Haines? Or do you think they send out Bearclaw? 

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Either way. Just making "ballsy" predictions and "hoping" others don't make fun of me if I'm wrong lol

[Perry]

Predictions:

125: Lee by fall 6 to 0 Iowa

133: rby by Dec 6 to 3 Iowa

141: woods by Dec 9 to 3 Iowa 

149: SVN by Dec  (swing match) 9 to 6 Iowa 

157: siebrecht by Dec (swing match) 12 to 6 Iowa 

165: facundo by Dec (swing match if it happens) 12 to 9 Iowa 

174: starocci by Dec 12 to 12

184: brooks by Dec 15 to 12 psu

197: dean by Dec (swing match) 18 to 12

285: Cass by Dec (swing match) 18 to 15 psu

Brands gets team pointed at some point to make final score 18 to 14

[MLB9]

What’s the reasoning behind so many picks of Siebrecht over Haines? That match to me is where Penn State is most likely to win, and a sizeable favorite, after their four returning NC matches. Is it just because Haines is a freshman?

 

I also have a really hard time seeing no bonus out of RBY/Starocci/Brooks. I think two of the three will. Brands has wrestling style that keeps scores low and close, but Assad just got pinned. Find out soon enough I suppose.

[BerniePragle]

  On 1/22/2023 at 2:22 PM, 98lberEating2Lunches said:

I guess I for sure don't understand the meaning of "for sure." ... Totally.

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Are you Bill Clinton?

[VakAttack]

  On 1/22/2023 at 10:36 PM, MLB9 said:

What’s the reasoning behind so many picks of Siebrecht over Haines? That match to me is where Penn State is most likely to win, and a sizeable favorite, after their four returning NC matches. Is it just because Haines is a freshman?

 

I also have a really hard time seeing no bonus out of RBY/Starocci/Brooks. I think two of the three will. Brands has wrestling style that keeps scores low and close, but Assad just got pinned. Find out soon enough I suppose.

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Abe and Brooks have wrestled twice, two decisions.  It may be that 157 is the weight PSU is most likely to win after the Champs, but he's still a relatively unproven freshman and it's a funky match up. I say that as somebody who picked Haines.

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

  On 1/22/2023 at 10:36 PM, MLB9 said:

What’s the reasoning behind so many picks of Siebrecht over Haines? That match to me is where Penn State is most likely to win, and a sizeable favorite, after their four returning NC matches. Is it just because Haines is a freshman?

 

I also have a really hard time seeing no bonus out of RBY/Starocci/Brooks. I think two of the three will. Brands has wrestling style that keeps scores low and close, but Assad just got pinned. Find out soon enough I suppose.

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It's likely Haines stays in redshirt and doesn't even wrestle vs Iowa.  It will be Bearclaw.

Edited January 22, 2023 by Jimmy Cinnabon

[Pinnacle]

  On 1/22/2023 at 10:14 PM, Perry said:

Either way. Just making "ballsy" predictions and "hoping" others don't make fun of me if I'm wrong lol

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I think Seibrecht showed he is on Model's level right now, whereas when Haines wrestled Model I think Haines showed he was up a level from Model. Maybe Seibrecht will present problems for Haines but my gut reaction is that Haines will prove too much. 

[Gus]

  On 1/23/2023 at 1:44 AM, Pinnacle said:

I think Seibrecht showed he is on Model's level right now, whereas when Haines wrestled Model I think Haines showed he was up a level from Model. Maybe Seibrecht will present problems for Haines but my gut reaction is that Haines will prove too much. 

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Transitive property does not always work in wrestling. Siebrecht also won by major over Kraisser ISU and Haines won by dec. I think it will be a good match and would lean Haines.

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

I lean Siebrecht because of his unorthodox style and funk.  He may catch Haines feet to back.

[1032004]

Is Siebrecht not even ranked by Flo?  It didn’t seem like it during the Wisconsin match.  Haines should definitely be favored, but I wouldn’t be shocked to see Siebrecht win.  But Haines also seems like someone with good positioning that wouldn’t typically get tripped up by the funk.

[Hokeye]

Haines has the skills needed to take a wrestler up off of the mat when finishing which negates some of the funk.  I think Haines will win 8-4 or something along those lines.  Siebrecht will beat bearclaw in a close match imo.

[Gus]

  On 1/23/2023 at 2:33 PM, 1032004 said:

Is Siebrecht not even ranked by Flo?  It didn’t seem like it during the Wisconsin match.  Haines should definitely be favored, but I wouldn’t be shocked to see Siebrecht win.  But Haines also seems like someone with good positioning that wouldn’t typically get tripped up by the funk.

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Intermat has Haines 17 and Siebrecht 21

[1032004]

  On 1/23/2023 at 2:42 PM, Gus said:

Intermat has Haines 17 and Siebrecht 21

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Who does BTN use for their rankings? IIRC he did not have one during the Wisconsin match 

[Gus]

  On 1/23/2023 at 2:45 PM, 1032004 said:

Who does BTN use for their rankings? IIRC he did not have one during the Wisconsin match 

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They probably use the coaches rankings which requires a minimum of 8 matches at the time of the ranking. 

[Wrestleknownothing]

  On 1/22/2023 at 10:45 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

It's likely Haines stays in redshirt and doesn't even wrestle vs Iowa.  It will be Bearclaw.

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  On 1/23/2023 at 2:26 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

I lean Siebrecht because of his unorthodox style and funk.  He may catch Haines feet to back.

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But you picked Haines to win. Talk about hedging/ridiculousness.

All you need to be right is to predict all possible outcomes.

[Eagle26]

There’s basically 4 toss ups in this dual, 149, 157, 165, and 285. Iowa has to win 3 out 4… possible but it’s a tall order. IF PSU does send Haines, I think he is the favorite. So then Iowa would need to win 3 out of 3 tossups or find an upset somewhere. Maybe 197?

[ionel]

  On 1/23/2023 at 4:18 PM, Eagle26 said:

There’s basically 4 toss ups in this dual, 149, 157, 165, and 285. Iowa has to win 3 out 4… possible but it’s a tall order. IF PSU does send Haines, I think he is the favorite. So then Iowa would need to win 3 out of 3 tossups or find an upset somewhere. Maybe 197?

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but home mat advantage in favor of ... 

... wait ill check with Jimmy and get back to all on that 

Edited January 23, 2023 by ionel

[1032004]

  On 1/23/2023 at 4:18 PM, Eagle26 said:

There’s basically 4 toss ups in this dual, 149, 157, 165, and 285. Iowa has to win 3 out 4… possible but it’s a tall order. IF PSU does send Haines, I think he is the favorite. So then Iowa would need to win 3 out of 3 tossups or find an upset somewhere. Maybe 197?

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If you're assuming Bearclaw at 157, I think Siebrecht is the favorite (but wouldn't be shocked to see Bearclaw beat him).

[Eagle26]

  On 1/23/2023 at 5:35 PM, 1032004 said:

If you're assuming Bearclaw at 157, I think Siebrecht is the favorite (but wouldn't be shocked to see Bearclaw beat him).

Yes I agree. Depending on who PSU sends, one team would be a slight favorite but winnable either way. I guess that’s why I consider it a toss up but maybe “swing match” would be better term.

I’m pretty confident we see Haines. If they were sure of keeping his redshirt, they would’ve save one match for Iowa. I think this weekend was part of the evaluation process and Haines showed a clear separation.

[BerniePragle]

  On 1/23/2023 at 3:42 PM, Wrestleknownothing said:

 

But you picked Haines to win. Talk about hedging/ridiculousness.

All you need to be right is to predict all possible outcomes.

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The old investment genius scam.

[flyingcement]

PSU is favored but Iowa has a few different paths to victory.  

[1032004]

  On 1/23/2023 at 8:43 PM, Eagle26 said:

Yes I agree. Depending on who PSU sends, one team would be a slight favorite but winnable either way. I guess that’s why I consider it a toss up but maybe “swing match” would be better term.

I’m pretty confident we see Haines. If they were sure of keeping his redshirt, they would’ve save one match for Iowa. I think this weekend was part of the evaluation process and Haines showed a clear separation.

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Got ya.  I thought you were saying if Haines goes it’s not a tossup but if Bearclaw goes then it is.

Edited January 23, 2023 by 1032004