Messenbrink’s Motor

[BuckyBadger]

Motor, gas tank, whatever you want to call it. The guys ability to keep attacking at the pace he does without seeming to get tired is incredible.

I’m not sure most people can even develop that sort of thing thing. Some guys just have that ability. Messenbrink has it combined with great tech and high level attacks.

In some ways it kind of reminds me how dominant Burroughs was with his double leg earlier in his freestyle career. Everyone knew it was coming and still couldn’t stop it. Messenbrink needs to get a few senior level international events under his belt, but man he is going to do some damage.

Edited 20 hours ago by BuckyBadger

[BruceyB]

I think you are 100% correct. I know personally, there were guys I wrestled multiple times, and whether I knew I was better or not, some guys you just know it's not going to be a fun wrestling match. I assume everyone going into a match with Mesenbrink is thinking "this spaz is just going to slap me silly and take 1000 shots in the next handful of minutes." Wrestling against Mitchell looks like a terrible time, win or lose.

[Hammerlock3]

he's underrated as an athlete, like really underrated. probably because he looks like a future rabbi.

Edited 16 hours ago by Hammerlock3

[SocraTease]

Someone should get a sense of his VO2 Max.  It's a measurement of the amount of oxygen your body can use (i.e., how efficient it delivers oxygen to your muscles) during intense activities (sports) and an indicator of cardio fitness.  It can also predict athletic performance.   I do distance running and Garmin watches can give you an approximate (but pretty accurate) number.   There are more exact ways of measuring it as well.

Your volume of oxygen maximum (VO2 Max) invariably declines with age (dropping roughly 10 percent per decade at a certain point in your life, though you can slow it down with a lot of training).

The point: I'm sure MM's is quite high. A large dose of that is probably genetic.  Elite runners and cyclists usually have very high VO2 Max.  It's good to know what your range is in any event to get a sense of your long prospects with health.  

[BuckyBadger]

1 minute ago, SocraTease said:

Someone should get a sense of his VO2 Max.  It's a measurement of the amount of oxygen your body can use (i.e., how efficient it delivers oxygen to your muscles) during intense activities (sports) and an indicator of cardio fitness.  It can also predict athletic performance.   I do distance running and Garmin watches can give you an approximate (but pretty accurate) number.   There are more exact ways of measuring it as well.

Your volume of oxygen maximum (VO2 Max) invariably declines with age (dropping roughly 10 percent per decade at a certain point in your life, though you can slow it down with a lot of training).

The point: I'm sure MM's is quite high. A large dose of that is probably genetic.  Elite runners and cyclists usually have very high VO2 Max.  It's good to know what your range is in any event to get a sense of your long prospects with health.  

I agree it’s something along these lines. We had a guy on our team in college with an endless motor (but not near the skills of Messenbrink). I remember one of the coaches, who was an AA, said something like he didn’t just anybody could train themself to have that type of pace. A lot of it was probably genetic.

[ionel]

Are we saying MeSSenbrink has a big motor like a Chevelle SS?  

[Crotalus]

he's underrated as an athlete, like really underrated. probably because he looks like a future rabbi.

Or a future rapper.

[de4856]

Obviously MM’s gas tank was a huge asset but watching the match I thought that once he figured out how to get to Carr’s legs that changed the outcome of this match. 

[ionel]

Good thrread by @BBucckyBBadgger donn't ya thinnk?   

[scourge165]

13 hours ago, BuckyBadger said:

Motor, gas tank, whatever you want to call it. The guys ability to keep attacking at the pace he does without seeming to get tired is incredible.

I’m not sure most people can even develop that sort of thing thing. Some guys just have that ability. Messenbrink has it combined with great tech and high level attacks.

In some ways it kind of reminds me how dominant Burroughs was with his double leg earlier in his freestyle career. Everyone knew it was coming and still couldn’t stop it. Messenbrink needs to get a few senior level international events under his belt, but man he is going to do some damage.

I disagree. This is...kinda what John Mesenbrink was known for. 

First of all, it's how he Wrestled in his 40s(I mean, for a guy in his 40s) but it's how he wrestled and how he coached.

Second, I think it's just effort and hours. I think it's obviously incredibly hard, but Mesenbrink was famous for two things as a coach. He'd finish the year with 12-15 kids as a lot of kids didn't want to go through the practices or the early morning workouts and he'd always have kids pulling off huge upsets. 

Then you add in AWA and all the teammates he had there and much more technical Wrestling and I think it CAN be replicated...but it takes a pretty intense mentality to do so. I don't know that it's so much different from a the Stieners or Mcllravy in attack rate. 

[scourge165]

10 hours ago, BruceyB said:

I think you are 100% correct. I know personally, there were guys I wrestled multiple times, and whether I knew I was better or not, some guys you just know it's not going to be a fun wrestling match. I assume everyone going into a match with Mesenbrink is thinking "this spaz is just going to slap me silly and take 1000 shots in the next handful of minutes." Wrestling against Mitchell looks like a terrible time, win or lose.

I mean...it's pretty much lose or lose at this point...

 

Does Mesenbrink even have someone to Wrestle at FinalX with Dake going up?

 

[ionel]

2 minutes ago, scourge165 said:

Does Mesenbrink even have someone to Wrestle at FinalX with Dake going up?

Stay on topic. We are talking about Messenbrink here!