Richie Figs at 133

[okokzach]

How do you think he performs up a weight? 

[ionel]

Just now, okokzach said:

How do you think he performs up a weight? 

better

[flyingcement]

He's going to have much better training partners on the team: Spratley, Hughes, Sakamoto, McComas and then RBY and Fix at the RTC.  I think the will challenge for a title at 133.  

[BruceyB]

I don't know that I would lock him into the starter roll at this point. Unless he's struggle with lifestyle and weight management, then we're talking about a guy who lost to Trevor Anderson twice, Tristan Daugherty, and got stuck by Dean Peterson. The talent is obviously there but, even the year he won it, he had a pretty bad season up until the end of February. I think 1 thing is clear.. DT is enacting the PSU approach of amassing as much talent as possible where guys will have to continue to improve if they don't want to be in danger of losing their spot to the guy behind them. No school has had comparable depth to PSU in recent years.. the fact that we don't know what OSU's line-up is going to look like next year is a positive because it means they have multiple options at several weights and guys will have to shuffle to put themselves in the best position possible to be a started.

[Boring]

I can't believe OSU would even pursue Figs after the eggs he laid at B12s and NCAAs.  I can't imagine he'd be very competitive at 133, where he'd be giving up strength in every match. 

Edited April 8 by Boring

[ionel]

3 minutes ago, Boring said:

I can't believe OSU would even pursue Figs after the eggs he laid at B12s and NCAAs.  I can't imagine he'd be very competitive at 133, where he'd be giving up strength in every match. 

He'll have to win the spot.  

[BruceyB]

49 minutes ago, Boring said:

I can't believe OSU would even pursue Figs after the eggs he laid at B12s and NCAAs.  I can't imagine he'd be very competitive at 133, where he'd be giving up strength in every match. 

It is a terrible coaching move. I would never bring in someone a stud who fell short of AA'ing. I mean, look at what happened with Hamiti. The warning signs where there went he imploded in the B1G finals and failed to reach the podium last year. Stupid Oklahoma State, stupid!

[Boring]

2 hours ago, BruceyB said:

It is a terrible coaching move. I would never bring in someone a stud who fell short of AA'ing. I mean, look at what happened with Hamiti. The warning signs where there went he imploded in the B1G finals and failed to reach the podium last year. Stupid Oklahoma State, stupid!

You don't really know much about wrestling, do you?  Are you saying losing in the B1G finals is equal to not even making the finals in the Big 12?? And you are saying a guy who didn't even make R16, and furthermore EMBARRASSED himself badly at NCAAs, is on par with Hamiti, whose worst performance was R12? 

OSU already has Cael Hughes, who will absolutely smoke Figs at 133, and Spratley is already better at 125. 

Yeah, OSU screwed up if they offered Figs more than $3 to come try out for the team. 

Edited April 8 by Boring

[Boring]

3 hours ago, ionel said:

He'll have to win the spot.  

He won't. But he might be able to provide some depth on the bench, I suppose. 

[D3 for LU]

4 hours ago, Boring said:

He won't. But he might be able to provide some depth on the bench, I suppose. 

Wow... a former NCAA champ, quite possibly, riding the bench?

Great Googaly Moogaly!

D3

Edited April 8 by D3 for LU

[Boring]

30 minutes ago, D3 for LU said:

Wow... a former NCAA champ, quite possibly, riding the bench?

Great Googaly Moogaly!

D3

Going 1-2 at NCAAs this year, while looking VERY bad, didn't do him any favors in my eyes. I just don't get that kind of regression, going from NCAA champ to nothing in a year. 

[MPhillips]

5 hours ago, Boring said:

You don't really know much about wrestling, do you? 

You are thick...

[Boring]

25 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

You are thick...

You think a guy who got majored in R24 is a good get, huh? 

[nhs67]

9 minutes ago, Boring said:

You think a guy who got majored in R24 is a good get, huh? 

You think a former age group worlds medalist and NCAA national champion (7-2 over Ayala in 2024) is not a good get?

You wanted to throw out that @BruceyB didn't know wrestling while also (un)ironically ignoring the fact that he has been battling both injuries and a poor cut due to injuries.  When do those last two things bite you the most?  Tournaments with multiple weigh-ins, right?

You are either clearly too close to the situation to give an opinion that isn't clouded in jealousy (or some other toxic emotion), or you are thick, as Dr. @MPhillips has so eloquently stated.  Worst case scenario, which I would not assume, is that you are just being a blatant troll.

At the end of today, just as you knew yesterday, getting Figs to man 133lbs for OSU next season is a good get.  That means at best you are being obstinate.

[Boring]

22 minutes ago, nhs67 said:

You think a former age group worlds medalist and NCAA national champion (7-2 over Ayala in 2024) is not a good get?

You wanted to throw out that @BruceyB didn't know wrestling while also (un)ironically ignoring the fact that he has been battling both injuries and a poor cut due to injuries.  When do those last two things bite you the most?  Tournaments with multiple weigh-ins, right?

You are either clearly too close to the situation to give an opinion that isn't clouded in jealousy (or some other toxic emotion), or you are thick, as Dr. @MPhillips has so eloquently stated.  Worst case scenario, which I would not assume, is that you are just being a blatant troll.

At the end of today, just as you knew yesterday, getting Figs to man 133lbs for OSU next season is a good get.  That means at best you are being obstinate.

I think any guy who got majored in R24 to a guy who failed to place isn't that great a "get", I don't care if he won 20 age level world titles in FS. I'm thinking HEW, that's the only thing that can account for a guy going from NCAA champ (albeit a weak one) to 1-2 and out at R24. As my old wrestling coach used to say "maybe he's been reading the press clippings about how great he is". I've already stated outright that Cael Hughes will smoke Figs at 133 and that I don't think it's a good get. Maybe he'll prove me wrong, but I doubt it. 

[nhs67]

7 minutes ago, Boring said:

I think any guy who got majored in R24 to a guy who failed to place isn't that great a "get", I don't care if he won 20 age level world titles in FS. I'm thinking HEW, that's the only thing that can account for a guy going from NCAA champ (albeit a weak one) to 1-2 and out at R24. As my old wrestling coach used to say "maybe he's been reading the press clippings about how great he is". I've already stated outright that Cael Hughes will smoke Figs at 133 and that I don't think it's a good get. Maybe he'll prove me wrong, but I doubt it. 

You are entitled to your own opinion.

When it is wrong, expect people to tell you as much.

We have done that.

[charmon55]

Figs is a good pick up. 

[Le duke]

OSU's lineup has a lot of questions. 

Witcraft is done, so Hughes can move up to 141.

At 149, WS has Jamison (R12 this year) and Swiderski listed. 

At 157, WS has Teague Travis, who went 2-2 (R16) at NCAAs.

Seems to me that they bump the loser of a 149 wrestle-off up to 157. Both of them are better than TT.

[nhs67]

21 minutes ago, Le duke said:

OSU's lineup has a lot of questions. 

Witcraft is done, so Hughes can move up to 141.

At 149, WS has Jamison (R12 this year) and Swiderski listed. 

At 157, WS has Teague Travis, who went 2-2 (R16) at NCAAs.

Seems to me that they bump the loser of a 149 wrestle-off up to 157. Both of them are better than TT.

Is Hughes a lateral jump for Jamison?  I imagine in-season Jamison would put out better results, but B12/NCAA, multiple weigh-in Jamison isn't the same as in-season, so is Hughes up at a better weight for him a lateral jump?

[Winners Circle]

37 minutes ago, Le duke said:

OSU's lineup has a lot of questions. 

Witcraft is done, so Hughes can move up to 141.

At 149, WS has Jamison (R12 this year) and Swiderski listed. 

At 157, WS has Teague Travis, who went 2-2 (R16) at NCAAs.

Seems to me that they bump the loser of a 149 wrestle-off up to 157. Both of them are better than TT.

As a cowboy fan, I'd rather have TT than Jamison at 157.

My ideal lineup is: 

• 125: Spratley
• 133: Figs
• 141: Jamison
• 149: Swiderski
• 157: TT
• 165: Dee
• 174: Facundo
• 184: Ryder
• 197: Merrill
• 285: Doucet

[nhs67]

2 minutes ago, Winners Circle said:

As a cowboy fan, I'd rather have TT than Jamison at 157.

My ideal lineup is: 

• 125: Spratley
• 133: Figs
• 141: Jamison
• 149: Swiderski
• 157: TT
• 165: Dee
• 174: Facundo
• 184: Ryder
• 197: Merrill
• 285: Doucet

This lineup has potential for 10 AA.

[Winners Circle]

1 minute ago, nhs67 said:

This lineup has potential for 10 AA.

Yes I agree. And my rationale for TT over Jamison at 157 is few things:

1. TT has more offense. Jamison is very counter reliant.
   • Off of this, TT went 2-2 at 157 and made the R16 in 2024. Then was set to go 157 again this year (with Fish RS), and got hurt early on and so they pulled Fish out. Then TT ended up dropping to 149 for B12s and NCAAs. Long winded way of saying I'd like to see how much TT jumps levels with a full season under this staff and at the right weight. 
2. Seems as though Jamison wins a lot of matches/positions based on sheer power and strength. I'm not sure if he has the same advantage up even weight, let alone two. 

[Truzzcat]

23 minutes ago, Winners Circle said:

Yes I agree. And my rationale for TT over Jamison at 157 is few things:

1. TT has more offense. Jamison is very counter reliant.
   • Off of this, TT went 2-2 at 157 and made the R16 in 2024. Then was set to go 157 again this year (with Fish RS), and got hurt early on and so they pulled Fish out. Then TT ended up dropping to 149 for B12s and NCAAs. Long winded way of saying I'd like to see how much TT jumps levels with a full season under this staff and at the right weight. 
2. Seems as though Jamison wins a lot of matches/positions based on sheer power and strength. I'm not sure if he has the same advantage up even weight, let alone two. 

I think it is possible Jamison's output increases a lot without having to pull as much weight as he does. I think his strength will likely also translate just looking at Levi this year. If you aren't glycogen depleted for months, you're going to be stronger.

[Winners Circle]

1 minute ago, Truzzcat said:

I think it is possible Jamison's output increases a lot without having to pull as much weight as he does. I think his strength will likely also translate just looking at Levi this year. If you aren't glycogen depleted for months, you're going to be stronger.

You could very well be right. It will be interesting to see and I trust the staff to put the best guy on the mat. 

[Gene Mills Fan]

Can Jamison make 141 again? I think there moving the bikes out of the weigh in room after last year.