Best to ever beat you (more post-NCAA banter)

[nhs67]

22 minutes ago, ionel said:

How'd that go? 

Oh we wrestled many times.  He's the GOAT for a reason.

[ExBSUfan]

Tyler Graff ended up having the best overall accolades.

I beat him in Greco and ended up wrestling him in freestyle at the same tournament, he punished me for beating him.

other notable losses of mine are Matt Kyler, Brian Owen, Tyler Caldwell, and Tony Mustari. I had been teched multiple times in my wrestling career, but the way Tony Mustari teched me was brutal. He could have been charged with assault and nobody would have questioned it.

[Warm Up Champ]

Unfortunately I couldn't beat a guy named Cael Sanderson.  Lost to him in the 1991 Western Regional freestyle final (Boise, Idaho).  Lost to him again at the NCAA tournament in 2001.  The only solace is that he apparently beat everyone he wrestled. 

[lu_alum]

Here's a quick list off the top of my head...

Jim Martin, NCAA 4-2-1-3.  Champ at 126 in 1988.  Martin lost two bout during his frosh year in HS (5th at states), then went undefeated for the remainder of his HS career.  I was his 100th consecutive win during the streak that closed out his HS career.

Scott Collins, 1991 NCAA Champ (149)

Mike Cole, 2x AA.  3rd at 142 in 1987 & 1989.  Was the #1 seed at NCAAs in 1989, having beat Pat Santoro in the All Star Classic & EWL tourney.

Paul Gemberling, Fargo champ, PIAA AAA champ & 4th for Shikellamy.  Last person to beat Jack Cuvo in HS loss, during their sophomore seasons.

Tony Reed, NCAA R12 @ 134 in 1989.  2x PIAA AAA state champ for Shikellamy.

 

[scourge165]

2 hours ago, ExBSUfan said:

Tyler Graff ended up having the best overall accolades.

I beat him in Greco and ended up wrestling him in freestyle at the same tournament, he punished me for beating him.

other notable losses of mine are Matt Kyler, Brian Owen, Tyler Caldwell, and Tony Mustari. I had been teched multiple times in my wrestling career, but the way Tony Mustari teched me was brutal. He could have been charged with assault and nobody would have questioned it.

I Wrestled a kid who beat me 10-0 in Greco back in the day and then I came back and beat him 7-6 in Freestyle(probably a bit lucky). He just had these legs that were cartoonishly big. Talked about how he had a Gym in his barn, he was home schooled and he Wrestled and Farmed.

Best to beat me? Varner. Just a hammer everywhere. He hit me with a Footsweep(I remember thinking WTF did he just do tha...and I was turning). 

 

[Gus]

4 hours ago, scourge165 said:

5X...upset as a Soph, but definitely a stud. 

That’s right, i forgot that. He was amazing in youth wrestling. 

[scourge165]

30 minutes ago, Gus said:

That’s right, i forgot that. He was amazing in youth wrestling. 

He was amazing in all Wrestling! I THOUGHT it was Ramos(Iowa) who spent 7th and 8th grade in Minnesota to Wrestle. 

He bumped up to 112 as a Soph an still won it. I remember talking to the AV coach about him and asked 'how did he lose,' and they said..."we asked ourselves the same thing."

[Gus]

7 hours ago, scourge165 said:

He was amazing in all Wrestling! I THOUGHT it was Ramos(Iowa) who spent 7th and 8th grade in Minnesota to Wrestle. 

He bumped up to 112 as a Soph a still won it. I remember talking to the AV coach about him and asked 'how did he lose,' and they said..."we asked ourselves the same thing."

Are you thinking of Eric Devos? Started in Apple Valley and finished up in Waverly Shellrock, IA which was where he was from. 

[cangemi]

Shawn white Michigan state AA 5-2

Totho fejel Lehigh   AA tied end losing criteria tried lateral got pinned.

I think best 2 I wrestled  lost too.

 

Frank C

 

 

[Hillbilly Jim]

12 hours ago, Idaho said:

If you wrestled Prescott, then did you did you ever wrestled my buddy Bob Truby? 

No—where was he from?

[BloodRound]

Broke out of 2 Anthony Cassar cradles on the way to a swift tech fall.

[PIAA_09]

Jarrod Garnett (AA VT) or Andrew Alton. The only time I ever missed weight I would have gotten mauled by Kyle Dake. I regret that 

[Interviewed_at_Weehawken]

Match: Mike Amine

Practice: Rodney Smith, Mike Carolan

[PortaJohn]

3 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Match: Mike Amine

Practice: Rodney Smith, Mike Carolan

Streets: Aaron Burr?

[gimpeltf]

2 hours ago, cangemi said:

Totho fejel Lehigh  

Did Wacko (Toth-Fejel) hurt you?

[Bigbrog]

Brandon Paulson in like 87 or 89 at a regional freestyle tournament...got teched in about 15 seconds...so it was close

[OMW]

John Smith (FS)

Jimmy Martin (folk)

[scourge165]

5 hours ago, Gus said:

Are you thinking of Eric Devos? Started in Apple Valley and finished up in Waverly Shellrock, IA which was where he was from. 

I am. It's become a bit of a blur. I thought that was Ramos, but yes, it was Devos. 

[Paul158]

2 hours ago, Bigbrog said:

Brandon Paulson in like 87 or 89 at a regional freestyle tournament...got teched in about 15 seconds...so it was close

You didn't even break a sweat.

[cangemi]

4 hours ago, gimpeltf said:

Did Wacko (Toth-Fejel) hurt you?

Nope. Went for broke right to back end match

[Bigbrog]

1 hour ago, Paul158 said:

You didn't even break a sweat.

LOL...no I didn't...and neither did he...but I did get rewarded with a back injury because of the whoopin...I had to default out of the tournament...what an experience...cutting weight for three days, the family driving me 8 hours and having to get a hotel...all for a single 15-second match...good times

[gimpeltf]

30 minutes ago, cangemi said:

Nope. Went for broke right to back end match

BTW- that wasn't meant to be a shot at you by any means. Tihamer was called Wacko and was kind of stiff until his last year or two when he learned how to relax which improved his record considerably.

[Truzzcat]

Either Austin Desanto or Trent Hidlay... Neither went well for me.

[whaletail]

On 4/5/2025 at 10:22 PM, Piper said:

1xAA Mike Faust destroyed me when I was 19 at my first/only senior tournament.

Mike Faust, the Gilman heavyweight (later went to Penn)?

If so, I was a few years ahead of him at Gilman, same class as Rock (Gerard Harrison).

Rock and I were pretty even until high school, when I got bigger and he got better. By the time we were seniors, I couldn't even take him down in practice anymore.

But the best guy I ever wrestled is easy; Sheldon Thomas (1x NCAA champ at Clarion, 2x 3rd I think). We wrestled at least 5x, from 7th grade (when I was a second year Junior League wrestler) through high school, and he beat the brakes off me every time.

I did he take him down, though, the last time we wrestled. I got in deeper on a duck under than I ever should have, and he was so out of position, he pretty much gave up the two just to get back on his offense quicker.

And he did just that, eventually pinning me. I wasn't anything special, but that was the only time I was pinned in high school, and maybe the only back points I gave up that year.

As an aside, me and a buddy attended the '97 NCAAs at Northern Iowa, and rented a room from a local family. Sheldon's family just happened to be staying in the same house, and I still remember how sad they were that Friday night after he lost. The defending champ and undefeated #1 seed, I'm pretty sure he lost to Iowa's #8 seed Jesse Whitmer in the quarterfinals, but came back to win four straight on the back side and finish third.

Whitmer went on to beat Lindsay Durlacher in the finals, and Iowa set the NCAA scoring record (since beaten by PSU).

 

[Paul158]

52 minutes ago, Truzzcat said:

Either Austin Desanto or Trent Hidlay... Neither went well for me.

Aren't they about 50 lbs apart in weight? Where you just a practice?