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If nothing was classified, then there is not much to be concerned about with regard to information.   But the person who included a press rep should be fired.   i don't know about the others on the chat, if they should be reprimanded.   I don't know if they would know somebody was not supposed to be there.  Somebody else is supposed to monitor that I think.   Like the guy who invited the press guy.    That person needs to be fired.    You don't make an honest mistake of bringing in a known press antagonist that has lied about Trump in various ways over the years.   That would be the last guy you get on the chat. 

Change the app maybe, don't know anything about signal.   Seems like a chat app is not the place to be discussing this stuff.

mspart

 

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If nothing was classified, then there is not much to be concerned about with regard to information.   But the person who included a press rep should be fired.   i don't know about the others on the chat, if they should be reprimanded.   I don't know if they would know somebody was not supposed to be there.  Somebody else is supposed to monitor that I think.   Like the guy who invited the press guy.    That person needs to be fired.    You don't make an honest mistake of bringing in a known press antagonist that has lied about Trump in various ways over the years.   That would be the last guy you get on the chat. 
Change the app maybe, don't know anything about signal.   Seems like a chat app is not the place to be discussing this stuff.
mspart
 


Everything that they shared was classified…


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1 hour ago, Le duke said:


Bro…


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Aren’t most security it related beaches what mspart (edited) said?   Being serious.  Cracking aes 256 (if this is that) would take a shyyyyyyte ton of computing power and time to do so. 
 

Cracking AES-256 encryption through brute force is virtually impossible with current and foreseeable technology. Here’s why:

Key Space and Brute Force Complexity

AES-256 has a key space of 2²⁵⁶ possible keys. This is an astronomically large number:

2256≈1.16×107722561.16×1077

To put this in perspective, the number of atoms in the observable universe is estimated to be around 10⁷⁸ to 10⁸², which is of a similar magnitude.

Computational Power Required

Even if we assume an advanced supercomputer can check 1 trillion (10¹²) keys per second, the time required to brute-force AES-256 is:

2 to the 256th power /  10 to the 12th keys/sec    

This is approximately 10⁶¹ years, which is far longer than the current age of the universe (13.8 billion years ≈ 10¹⁰ years).

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51 minutes ago, mspart said:

If nothing was classified,

 

Bro.... you've got to be kidding me...

 

A foreign entity was made aware of targets, timeframes and weapon packages prior to an attack by the US military.... Had this been a more advanced adversary that would essentially be giving them a heads up that our boys were on the way and essentially sending US forces to their death because of complete and utter incompetence.

I get the extent at which politics has polarized us but you can't possibly in good faith say that wasn't classified information. If this were a democratic administration I would be absolutely incredulous that they could be this careless. 
 

For one moment, use a moticum of critical thinking and try to understand how incredibly careless and ignorant this was. Not to mention people in the chat under oath today in a hearing wouldn't even admit to being in the group chat (gabbard.) it was absolutely embarrassing and the lack of accountability flies in the face of everything we teach and coach our boys to do on a wrestling mat let alone appointed heads of the US DOD and intelligence community.

 

My god man, you don't have to always toe the party line, it's ok to be critical of screw ups, it gives you more credibility the next time you want to argue for something else dumb the administration does.

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7 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

set up? 

 

Well what’s been released is already pretty bad.  Are you just doubting he has worse or are you buying the “it wasn’t classified!” defense?

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43 minutes ago, Doublehalf said:

Bro.... you've got to be kidding me...

 

A foreign entity was made aware of targets, timeframes and weapon packages prior to an attack by the US military.... Had this been a more advanced adversary that would essentially be giving them a heads up that our boys were on the way and essentially sending US forces to their death because of complete and utter incompetence.

I get the extent at which politics has polarized us but you can't possibly in good faith say that wasn't classified information. If this were a democratic administration I would be absolutely incredulous that they could be this careless. 
 

For one moment, use a moticum of critical thinking and try to understand how incredibly careless and ignorant this was. Not to mention people in the chat under oath today in a hearing wouldn't even admit to being in the group chat (gabbard.) it was absolutely embarrassing and the lack of accountability flies in the face of everything we teach and coach our boys to do on a wrestling mat let alone appointed heads of the US DOD and intelligence community.

 

My god man, you don't have to always toe the party line, it's ok to be critical of screw ups, it gives you more credibility the next time you want to argue for something else dumb the administration does.

You might want to check that data. One American reporter knew about some information. Nothing got to the enemy.

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set up? 
 


You’re joking, right?

Anything involving the movements of M/W/E in theater, and targeting information, is classified.


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no i get that... if that was what was released so be it...   but im asking if it was a set up... to find a leak... or to black ball goldberg

 

but on the other hand goldberg isn't exactly always above board 

 

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9 minutes ago, 1032004 said:

What he released is confirmed to be real 

real... but classified? 

i dont even know what was released... but it's been said it wasn't classified.

but again, it still may be a setup 

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13 minutes ago, Scouts Honor said:

real... but classified? 

i dont even know what was released... but it's been said it wasn't classified.

but again, it still may be a setup 

It has been said by the people who proved their incompetence that what they incompetently shared was not classified. Do you believe the people who have everything to lose through their own incompetence to not lie about what they did? I do not. 

How many criminals plead not guilty?

Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge

Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, Le duke said:

 


You’re joking, right?

Anything involving the movements of M/W/E in theater, and targeting information, is classified.


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None of these hard talking MAGA dip$h!ts have ever served or held a security clearance.

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42 minutes ago, jross said:

The problem is they used Signal for classified information. Pure incompetence. The most fireable of offenses, yet they keep their jobs, and in Hegseth's case, doubles down with lies.

Hegseth is a moron. No one should be happy a moron is in charge of the military.

At the risk of quoting that moron, "the assumption is, in the intelligence community, if you are using unclassified means there is the potential for, and likelihood that foreign governments are targeting those accounts and gathering intelligence from them." He considered that a fireable offense. Give him his wish.

Marco Rubio said "the exposure of American sensitive information is incomptence, it is malpractice, it is inexcusable." He needs to resign.

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Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge

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9 hours ago, 1032004 said:

Good thing we’ve moved to a meritocracy now.  He’s trying to figure out how Goldberg’s phone number “got sucked in” to his phone.

 

 

One of the funniest side effects of this scandal is people noticing that this guy was following a gay porn account on twitter lmao

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