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4 hours ago, MedicineMan said:

 1.You only get one pass at celebrating a victory in an overly emotional way, usually when you win a big tournament (like state) for the first time. After that you have to act like you've been there/done that before. Don't be the Roger Federer of wrestling. For those of you who don't know who Roger Federer is, he's arguably the greatest tennis player in history who's won every major tournament a bunch of times. But every time he wins the same tournament again, he flops down on the court, cries, or gets hysterical in some other way like he's a rookie winning the tournament for the first time.

2. You should, as a matter of respect, shake your opponent's coach's hand after the match. The only time you don't have to do this is if your opponent's coach makes a negative remark about you during the match ("He's tired!", "He's doing nothing, ref!" "He's just resting on bottom!", etc.)  He disrespected you, so there's no need to show him respect by shaking his hand.

3. If you're a nobody (unranked) wrestler who makes it to the state finals against a superior wrestler, don't get overly emotional if you lose. You haven't achieved squat during your wrestling career (which is why you're unranked) and only got to the finals through some fluke. So don't act all angry/devastated when you lose as if you were expected to win.

4. If you're a nobody wrestler, chances are you're going to be spending a lot of time in the consolation bracket. If the #1 or even #2 ranked wrestler gets beat at some point in the tournament and chooses the indignity of joining you and the rest of the yabos in the consolation bracket, don't act all high and mighty and wrestle to defeat him. He's already lowered himself to try to get a meaningless 3rd place. He doesn't need the additional insult of some scrub wrestling hard to defeat him. The rule is you wrestle a solid match but the #1/#2 ranked wrestler gets to win.

5. When a weight class gets called at a tournament and all the wrestlers come down from the bleachers to get their bout sheets, it's the lower ranked wrestler who takes the bout sheet and brings it to the assigned mat for the match.

6. Rules for wrestling against the #1 ranked wrestler/returning champion:
*Don't step on to the mat for the match before he does.
*You wait until he offers his hand for the handshake before the match starts, never disrespect his higher position by offering your hand first.
*You never take the first shot of the match against the #1 guy/returning champion.

7. Your headgear should be relatively clean and presentable. Don't tape it all up, put stickers on it, have it all torn up. It's pretentious and screams that you're trying way too hard to look tough/cool.

8. Tape up visible tattoos. This used to be the sport of kings. Don't denigrate that ideal by your trashy tats. Nobody cares how "meaningful" they are to you or how they make you "unique" (unique like every other jackwagon with tats).

9. Win or lose, go to center mat and get your hand raised or stay there while your opponent gets his hand raised. You don't look extra cool/defiant by running off the mat before your opponent gets his hand raised.

10. If you get screwed over in the finals there are several ways of handling the screw job. The ultimate option is to not show up to the awards ceremony so the 2nd place podium is awkwardly empty, which lets everybody know a screw job took place. The other more discrete option is to show up to the awards ceremony and stand on the 2nd place platform. But when the guy comes around to drape the silver medal around your neck, don't bow down and let him do so. Instead reach out and take the medal from his hand and hold it to the side during the ceremony. This is a subtle way of letting everyone know that you'll take the medal but you don't really accept it. If you want to really go all out, you can stand on the 2nd place platform but refuse to take the medal as he presents it to you.

11. If you win a tournament, don't "invite" the 2nd and 3rd place finishers up to join you on the 1st place podium. It's beyond condescending. You're basically saying to them "You weren't good enough to be up here on your own, but I'll give you permission to join me up here even though you don't really belong here."

12. Keep your headgear on after the match until you're off the mat. Have you noticed that the guy who wins is usually the one who pops his headgear strap off immediately after the final whistle or completely takes off his headgear while the guy who lost usually keeps his on? It's like some act of additional bravado after having won. Oh you say it's "uncomfortable" to keep wearing it? You were just wearing it for the entire match you hypocrite. You can keep it on for a few more seconds until you're off the mat.

13. Don't wear t-shirts advertising what "tough" camp you went to over the summer. Nobody cares or is intimidated that you made it through some "intense" camp. Besides it makes you look foolish if you end up losing to a guy who spent his summer sleeping in until noon and playing video games until dawn.

14. If a guy is wearing those old school tights (leggings) under his singlet then he's either the best wrestler at the tournament or the worst wrestler ever. There's no middle ground when it comes to guys wearing tights under their singlets.

15. If you get bounced early from a tournament it's perfectly ok to get the customary serving of extra large nachos with all the fixings and sit up in the bleachers and enjoy it with a huge satisfying grin as you watch everybody else still wrestling and struggling to make weight for the second day. It's one of the greatest joys of losing.

16. If the ref who's gonna be reffing your match is big fat guy then it's almost a given he's going to act like power hungry prick. If he's sporting the classic fat guy goatee (because fat guys think a goatee makes their double/triple chins less noticeable) then it's assured he's gonna be mega prick. The reason these fatties are colossal pricks is because (1) they're fat and (2) they achieved very little during their wrestling careers and now get a kick out of passive-aggressively projecting their fat frustrations on other wrestlers. The only good thing about having a fat ref is that if you put your opponent on his back these fatties will call a pin faster than they can wolf down an entire pie since it's super uncomfortable for them to be down on the mat on their huge gut for too long.

17. If you opponent is going through an "intimidating" pre-match warm-up (slapping himself all over, blaring angry music from his oversized headphones, doing air sprawls, etc.) then you're probably going to beat him fairly easily. The guy's scared and he's trying to hide it by going through this elaborate routine to try to "psyche" you out. The guy you have to worry about is the quiet one who's just standing off to the side of the mat, calmly watching the match going on before you two are up, maybe just nonchalantly bouncing up and down a few times being his entire warm up.

18. Awesome singlet + Brand new state-of-the-art wrestling shoes = mediocre wrestler

19. Your opponent is unusually undersized for your weight class but is highly ranked even though he comes from a no-name school with a non-existent wrestling history? Prepare to be destroyed.

20. You're not listening to a damn word your coach is telling you right before your match if there's a hot stats girl or female trainer nearby.

21. The token chick wrestler on the all-male wrestling team has major issues that you cannot even begin to comprehend. Just let her be. After a few months of trying to prove "she's just as good as any guy", possibly a year if she's really hardcore, she'll get bored and quit.

22. If a wrestler has an injured leg and you see his opponent intentionally avoid shooting in on that leg, don't mistake that for sportsmanship. He's actually hurting the injured leg more by shooting in on the good leg. Why? Because when he gets a single and gets the good leg up in the air he's making the guy balance himself by putting all his weight on the bad leg. Oldest trick in the book to make yourself look like a good sport to the uninformed fans.

23. There are few things more annoying than a loud shrieking middle aged woman cheering during a wrestling match when the rest of the crowd is relatively quiet. "WHOOOOOO!" Alright JOHNNY! WHOOOOO!"

24. It's always disappointing to win a tournament and the medal you get is the exact same design as the medal you got at another tournament a few weeks ago.

25. You made a huge mistake by not taking advantage of the information the announcer said about you to the crowd during your finals appearance at that tournament. While everybody announced that they had a 4.0 GPA, or had signed to wrestle at this or that college, or dedicated this match to their parents, etc...you could have "Been recently nominated for the Nobel Prize and dedicates this match to himself because without him this match wouldn't be taking place right now."

26. How sharp and GQ a coach dresses up to coach his wrestler in the state finals is inversely proportional to how many times he's coached a wrestler in the state finals before.

27. Wrestlers who dye their hair for the state tournament are the watered-down version of tattoo guy. Just like guys with tats, nobody who dyes their hair thinks of it as an original idea on their own. They saw some other shmucks do it and so they decided to copy said shmucks but think they're being original and unique by doing so, much like every guy who gets a tat thinks they're being original and unique.

28. Matside dads are the worse. It's all but guaranteed they've pushed their son to become a wrestler and are living vicariously through him, like most sport's dads do. It's also guaranteed the son hates wrestling even if he's really good at it. Watch any wrestler who has a matside dad and you'll notice he's miserable out there on the mat, even if he's in the process of techpinning his opponent in the state finals.

29. Parents who wear t-shirts and sweaters with encouraging slogans about their son wrestler ("Go Johnny!, "Team Johnny", etc.) come in two varieties. Some are plain obnoxious, especially if their son is an awesome wrestler, and they wear those slogans as a way to brag and let everyone know they're the parents of an awesome wrestler. And some are the sweetest, nicest couple you'll ever meet and are being genuinely sincere by wearing those shirts as a way to support a son they love very much. They're the kind of adorable couple who bakes snacks for the entire team and even become friends with their son's opponents and opposing coaches. Likewise, their son is also a respectful person on and off the mat and together they represent the family you wish you had.

30. Muscle shirt guy is harmless. He's just a dude who works out only his glamour muscles (biceps, pecs, abs) for the attention. He's not as strong as he looks. Definitely not even close to being as strong as farmer boy, who although looks soft compared to muscle shirt guy, will toss you around like a ragdoll during a match by using his unbelievable Herculian strength that is achieved only by those who grow up on a farm.

 

The Legendary DF (Del Fino) from "Unofficial Rules of Wrestling"

 

(the only existing known photo of DF, outside arena before his 2nd state finals match )

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The Great Oz (Medicine Man) has spoken....glad to see you made your way through the forest and onto the new website......Fadz

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I tried to find this quote again but couldn't.  I think it was Royce Alger, not sure... 

In my hometown there are ten tough guys.  Nine of them call me sir.

Does anyone remember this better than me?

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Posted
2 minutes ago, BerniePragle said:

When I was in HS, everybody said that about everything.

You mean it was used colloquially as a normal term of exasperation? Suitable for any occasion?  Haha I don't even understand the reference it just struck me as funny

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10 minutes ago, flyingcement said:

You mean it was used colloquially as a normal term of exasperation? Suitable for any occasion?  Haha I don't even understand the reference it just struck me as funny

It was the same as "The party's over".  Anytime something ended, someone would say "Goodnight Irene".  Maybe it was a Southern Tier of NY thing.  One of many.

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10 minutes ago, BerniePragle said:

It was the same as "The party's over".  Anytime something ended, someone would say "Goodnight Irene".  Maybe it was a Southern Tier of NY thing.  One of many.

I remember my parents saying that, too. My dad was from Philly and my mom was from Queens. Not sure which one, or both brought it to the midwest.

Drowning in data, but thirsting for knowledge

Posted
39 minutes ago, BerniePragle said:

In my hometown there are ten tough guys.  Nine of them call me sir.

They get, "badder" as you go down my street. I live clear at the end in a cave.

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Posted
6 hours ago, MedicineMan said:

 

21. The token chick wrestler on the all-male wrestling team has major issues that you cannot even begin to comprehend. Just let her be. After a few months of trying to prove "she's just as good as any guy", possibly a year if she's really hardcore, she'll get bored and quit. 38967838210_3b1cf949dd_o_d.jpg

Or you'll run into one who got 100 career wins against guys in California.
Prepared to be double arm barred and upside down.

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10 hours ago, BerniePragle said:

I tried to find this quote again but couldn't.  I think it was Royce Alger, not sure... 

In my hometown there are ten tough guys.  Nine of them call me sir.

Does anyone remember this better than me?

Also sounds like something Chael Sonnen would say.

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18 minutes ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

Also sounds like something Chael Sonnen would say.

I don't walk around looking into cameras and telling people I'm the best fighter in the world just to hear myself talk. I say it for the same reason they put warnings on packages of cigarettes, and fighting Chael Sonnen may be hazardous to one's health.

Chael Sonnen

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we hosted parties at our house for rent in college. the 158 pounder was our bouncer.

at one party, it was during the world series, he was carrying a bat.

there was one particularly rowdy person who always was at the parties...but this time was picking too many fights.

then he started messing with me.  so our bouncer walks up to him tapping his bat and says to the guy, it's time for you to leave.

the guy says... so what you gonna use the bat on me.

not missing a beat the bouncer turned the handle toward the guy and said no, you're going to need this.

the guy just left without a word. 

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"I just want some ice cream man. I just want some ice cream."

                                                                                                      -Kyven Gadsen

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On 1/19/2023 at 9:00 PM, BerniePragle said:

I tried to find this quote again but couldn't.  I think it was Royce Alger, not sure... 

In my hometown there are ten tough guys.  Nine of them call me sir.

Does anyone remember this better than me?

That sounds like Royce.

 

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On 1/20/2023 at 7:49 AM, PortaJohn said:

I don't walk around looking into cameras and telling people I'm the best fighter in the world just to hear myself talk. I say it for the same reason they put warnings on packages of cigarettes, and fighting Chael Sonnen may be hazardous to one's health.

Chael Sonnen

Seriously....what a trip!

 

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What about the Pat Pop / John Smith story?: A cowboy off the trail in ropers, Wranglers, and a Stetson shows up to challenge Smith after a practice. Smith limbers up, asks him "You sure you got insurance?," and proceeds to kick the p*ss out of him ... guy's begging to stop, and Smith won't let him go.

Posted
7 hours ago, jackwebster said:

What about the Pat Pop / John Smith story?: A cowboy off the trail in ropers, Wranglers, and a Stetson shows up to challenge Smith after a practice. Smith limbers up, asks him "You sure you got insurance?," and proceeds to kick the p*ss out of him ... guy's begging to stop, and Smith won't let him go.

I was in line at Just Wafflin' a few months ago, two guys in front of us women's bb asst coaches saving spot for team.  One of them good sized guy older than the other looked in good shape.  We'd switched to wrestling talk, he asked if I knew Dave Martin.  When I said yes he relayed the story of was going to have a go on the mat with Dave.  He went to John Smith to ask for some tips on what he ought to do to prepare.  John simply said:  "you don't want to do that."  

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2BPE 11/17/24 SMC

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Lincoln McIlravy, interview before 1997 NCAA championship match vs Chris Bono. Interviewer (Jeff Blatnick?) asked him if he had a go to move. Mac’s answer “about 7 of ‘em”. 

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I apologize, I don’t recall the OP, but on TheMat in the 2018 southern scuffle thread

[Nolf destroys Finesilver, pins him in 0:51 in the finals.]

 

“You see, what Finesilver did wrong there was, winning his semi-final”

 

Good line that one.

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