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Posted
2 hours ago, flyingcement said:

if he's found guilty of assault, it could have dramatic impact on his career prospects outside of wrestling.  firms that run background checks and turn up "assault and battery" don't tend to look upon it very kindly.  It's also why I think the courts should apply grace and common sense to this one (although that's not what courts are known for)

I feel like this already has a dramatic affect on his career.  19 years old is a man regardless of wha he does. School or work, in the game of life decisions matter right? I have a 19 year old and they have to know better. The guy has to have  a sense of self control. Maybe a lawyer can sort through a video better than the Body the expelled him. 

Posted
12 hours ago, 500 wrestler said:

I wrestled in New Jersey back in the 80s and I went to Cornell, so I suppose that I am entitled to an opinion on this topic (keeping in mind that opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one). I can't recall seeing anything close to a brawl during my high school wrestling years (and we went to some pretty tough high schools) but I have seem near-brawls between parents in my sons' youth and high school soccer games. Maybe people are a little less civilized now than back then? Certainly parents have gotten worse. 

If Knox is found guilty of assualt, he probably won't serve any time because (presumably) he has no priors. I do think that Cornell would then revoke his admission, and that would probably be the right call. However, I think that he should be allowed to wreste in the state tournament. The old 'innocent until proven guilty' thing. 

Better to strip him of his title after the fact (which does not erase anyone's memory, but does crown another champion) then deny him the opportunity to win on the mat.

Just curious, why do you think Cornell would revoke his admission for this? 

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I know of a golfer that got his admission from Harvard revoked because of antisemitic remarks in a group chat, so I would not put it past Cornell to deny him, but I would be surprised.

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Posted
9 hours ago, feet2back said:

School was All in this year to be #1 in NJ and brought in last years State Champ at Hwt. for his Senior Year...Team was built around Knox and with so many great recruits couldnt get it done..They wont sniff the NJ top 10 again in near future

Eh I'm not entirely sure about this one.  If my memory recalls, they were ranked pretty high up when Dean Peterson wrestled for them, and I thought a similar thing would happen once he graduated... and then Knox comes the year after.

Posted
23 hours ago, Spladle88 said:

Anthony Knox being allowed to wrestle for his 4th state title is a travesty and should be seen as such, can't understand those who see him as being allowed to wrestle as a "win".

Facebook moms will make it their entire personality until this weekend is over.

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Posted
1 hour ago, pokemonster said:

Just curious, why do you think Cornell would revoke his admission for this? 

Watch the Allen Iverson 30 for 30 on the bowling alley fight incident when he was in HS.

Posted
1 hour ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

I had a student/athlete have his admission revoked to an ACC school because he was caught drinking before prom.

I guess this could be an instance where Cornell’s TC3 loophole comes in handy if he hasn’t even been admitted yet, then they can wait a year for the situation to die down

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Posted
1 hour ago, Interviewed_at_Weehawken said:

I had a student/athlete have his admission revoked to an ACC school because he was caught drinking before prom.

But during Prohibition correct?  😉

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Posted
1 hour ago, BloodRound said:

Facebook moms will make it their entire personality until this weekend is over.

Funny.... interestingly there are a lot of social media wrestling dads that are defending Knox because he was "defending his family".... "this is petty".... "dont' take away his chance for 4 titles"... etc.  

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Posted
12 hours ago, flyingcement said:

That he would be arrested seems overboard to me.  The fact he was charged is even more surprising.  to me anyway.  

Have you seen the video of him wailing on the kid in the stands with his mom trying to break it up? He's lawfully an adult, punching a minor 3-5 times on video that was also witnessed by a police officer.... not sure why he wouldn't be charged. 

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Posted
12 hours ago, 1032004 said:

They originally stated that they accepted the suspension.  Haven’t seen if they’ve commented since the lawsuit

Yeah, I haven't seen anything either. Odd that every school that I am aware of has an automatic suspension rule on fighting, and this is a private school as well.  Having videos circulating out there of your student punching another student in the stands at a school event, going to a hearing over eligibility then being charged with assault, seems like the school  would issue their own disciplinary action since it happened at a school event. Probably scared to get involved with all the legal stuff and attention... maybe he will get a detention after the tournament. 

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Posted
21 minutes ago, BarSeries said:

Lol you get a free pass for assaulting someone if you are a three time state champion 

Especially if they (maybe) said something mean earlier!

Again, as I said before, the bee line that the person alleged to be Knox takes to allegedly pound on that kid (who is barely in the same zip code as Dad Knox), shows some degree of premeditation.

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Posted
29 minutes ago, Idaho said:

Yeah, I haven't seen anything either. Odd that every school that I am aware of has an automatic suspension rule on fighting, and this is a private school as well.  Having videos circulating out there of your student punching another student in the stands at a school event, going to a hearing over eligibility then being charged with assault, seems like the school  would issue their own disciplinary action since it happened at a school event. Probably scared to get involved with all the legal stuff and attention... maybe he will get a detention after the tournament. 

No kidding, I and like 5 other baseball players got suspended for the remainder of the year my senior year for doing some bs senior prank. Couldn't participate in the playoffs for baseball (ended up losing as we were starters), prom, walk at graduation, etc. And that was nowhere near fighting somebody. You live and you learn. Wild how the school isn't doing anything. 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, pokemonster said:

No kidding, I and like 5 other baseball players got suspended for the remainder of the year my senior year for doing some bs senior prank. Couldn't participate in the playoffs for baseball (ended up losing as we were starters), prom, walk at graduation, etc. And that was nowhere near fighting somebody. You live and you learn. Wild how the school isn't doing anything. 

I think schools are shy about potential litigation involving stuff like graduation walks these days.  Prom not so much.

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51 minutes ago, Idaho said:

Yeah, I haven't seen anything either. Odd that every school that I am aware of has an automatic suspension rule on fighting, and this is a private school as well.  Having videos circulating out there of your student punching another student in the stands at a school event, going to a hearing over eligibility then being charged with assault, seems like the school  would issue their own disciplinary action since it happened at a school event. Probably scared to get involved with all the legal stuff and attention... maybe he will get a detention after the tournament. 

In his ruling the judge barred the school from disqualifying him.

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

Yep. A judge who really wanted his own way.

Sort of, but I think the idea here is that erring one way is more reversible than the other.  If Knox eventually prevailed but wasn't allowed to wrestle, there's no way to "fix" that.  If NJSIAA prevails, they can strike him from the record books and bump everyone up.  Not a perfect solution, but more feasible.

Posted
35 minutes ago, VakAttack said:

Sort of, but I think the idea here is that erring one way is more reversible than the other.  If Knox eventually prevailed but wasn't allowed to wrestle, there's no way to "fix" that.  If NJSIAA prevails, they can strike him from the record books and bump everyone up.  Not a perfect solution, but more feasible.

That would be fine if there were any doubt that Knox was involved in fighting. There's not 

Posted
On 3/5/2025 at 12:11 PM, Caveira said:

Police and the DA:   Wait that little shyte didn’t accept a suspension from a governing body that has nothing to do with them …

 

Shyte go book em Danno lol.  

prosecutorial discretion is quite broad - and not unsual to see aggressive charging decisions that may eventually be withdrawn or resolved for whatever reasons (like contrition)

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Posted
2 hours ago, Wrestleknownothing said:

In his ruling the judge barred the school from disqualifying him.

So the judge barred the the NJ High Schoool Assoc. from disqualifying him and he barred the school from suspending him based on their disciplinary policy in their handbook? I was under the impression that this was only dealing with the Assoc. and the school was a separate issue although they supported NJHSAA.

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