Hawkeyes vs Cowboys thread

[666]

Post your predictions here. 

 

Cowboys win!!!

 

125 Spratley dec Cruz 3-0

133 Ayala mdec Witcraft 3-4

141 Jamison mdec Block 7-4

149 Parco dec Young 7-7

157 Teemer dec Fish 7-10

165 Caliendo dec Amine 7-13

174 Hamiti dec Kennedy 10-13

184 Plott dec Arnold 13-13

197 Buchanon dec Surber 13-16

HWT Hendricksen mdec Keuter 17-16

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[charmon55]

125: Spratley dec. Cruz 3-0

133: Ayala dec. Witcraft 3-3

141: Jamison dec. Schriever 6-3

149: Parco dec. Young 6-6

157: Fish dec. Teemer 9-6

165: Caliendo dec. Amine 9-9

174: Hamiti dec. Kennedy 12-9

184: Plott dec. Ferrari 15-9

197: Buchanan dec. Surber 15-12

285: Hendrickson fall. Keuter 21-12

[Wrestleknownothing]

Intermat's rankings on Iowa have really diverged from Flo's rankings this week. They are at a season high -10.9.

As recently as January 21 Intermat had Iowa scoring more than Iowa. 

On the Oklahoma State side there is little disagreement as the spread between the two has never hit 3 points.

 

Clearly, Iowa has the edge in a tournament structure at this point. But how do the dual lineups look using the average ranking of Intermat, Flo, and Wrestlestat? 5-5.

It looks like it comes down to bonus points. And OSU does have Pinfalldrickson, so...

[Dogbone]

There have been a lot of good duals this year where the dual outcome was not in doubt but had a lot of toss up matches.  

This dual does not seem to have a lot of toss ups, but the dual is a toss up with bonus points likely deciding the difference.

Just interesting to me.  

[Gene Mills Fan]

1 minute ago, Dogbone said:

There have been a lot of good duals this year where the dual outcome was not in doubt but had a lot of toss up matches.  

This dual does not seem to have a lot of toss ups, but the dual is a toss up with bonus points likely deciding the difference.

Just interesting to me.  

Agreed if OKST gets bonus from Hendrickson and Hamiti they are going to be tuff to beat

[666]

18 minutes ago, charmon55 said:

125: Spratley dec. Cruz 3-0

133: Ayala dec. Witcraft 3-3

141: Jamison dec. Schriever 6-3

149: Parco dec. Young 6-6

157: Fish dec. Teemer 9-6

165: Caliendo dec. Amine 9-9

174: Hamiti dec. Kennedy 12-9

184: Plott dec. Ferrari 15-9

197: Buchanan dec. Surber 15-12

285: Hendrickson fall. Keuter 21-12

Fish over Teemer is a bold choice. I like Fish much better because I find Teemer very boring to watch. 

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

Teemer is very good.  But his constantly back up shuffle is not Iowa style at all.

[BloodRound]

125: Spratley dec. Cruz 3-0 OSU

133: Ayala dec. Witcraft 3-3 TIED

141: Jamison dec. Schriever 6-3 OSU

149: Parco dec. Young 6-6 TIED

157: Teemer dec. Fish 9-6 IOWA

165: Caliendo dec. Amine 12-6 IOWA

174: Hamiti dec. Kennedy 12-9 IOWA

184: Plott dec. Ferrari 12-12 TIED

197: Buchanan dec. Surber 15-12 IOWA

285: Hendrickson fall. Keuter 16-15 OSU

Most things are straightforward here.  I felt a little embarrassed by how none of my upset picks for IOWA/MINNESOTA panned out last time, so I am not going with anything like Fish over Teemer.  I think as stated before, bonus will matter here, and there are very few I would want handling that part of over Hendrickson. 

Iowa could also flat out steamroll OSU before it even gets to that point too.  But wouldn't it be something if Taylor in his first year with the Cowboys shows the Brands up in this historic rivalry?  I think it would!

Edited 4 hours ago by BloodRound

[Gus]

125- Sprately mdec Cruz         OKST  4 | 0  Iowa

133- Ayala dec Witcraft            OKST  4 | 3  Iowa

141- Jamison dec Schriever     OKST  7 | 3  Iowa

149- Parco dec Young              OKST  7 | 6  Iowa

157- Teemer dec Fish               OKST  7 | 9  Iowa

165- Caliendo dec Amine         OKST  7 | 12  Iowa

174- Hamiti dec Brands           OKST  10 | 12  Iowa

184- Ferarri dec Plott               OKST  10 | 15  Iowa

197- Buchanan dec Surber      OKST  10 | 18  Iowa

285- Hendrickson dec Kueter OKST  13 | 18  Iowa

If Arnold goes at 184, Plott wins and OKST wins the dual 16-15

Edited 4 hours ago by Gus

[poorwrestler]

125- Sprately mdec Cruz         OKST  4 | 0  Iowa
133- Ayala dec Witcraft            OKST  4 | 3  Iowa
141- Jamison dec Schriever     OKST  7 | 3  Iowa
149- Parco dec Young              OKST  7 | 6  Iowa
157- Teemer dec Fish               OKST  7 | 9  Iowa
165- Caliendo dec Amine         OKST  7 | 12  Iowa
174- Hamiti dec Brands           OKST  10 | 12  Iowa
184- Ferarri dec Plott               OKST  10 | 15  Iowa
197- Buchanan dec Surber      OKST  10 | 18  Iowa
285- Hendrickson dec Kueter OKST  13 | 18  Iowa
If Arnold goes at 184, Plott wins and OKST wins the dual 16-15

I’m not saying I disagree, but I am curious what Ferrari has done in a lot of people’s eyes to have him capable of beating Plott. In his match against Starocci I saw a lot of sitting on one knee and fighting out of takedowns from the splits. Plott is approaching severely underrated territory imo.


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[Le duke]

Hendrickson is one of those guys where if he's even marginally better than you, it's bonus time. And I think he's markedly better than Kueter. 

I think he's going to pour it on, and ends it before 7:00 of match time has expired. Tech or pin.

 

[666]

1 minute ago, poorwrestler said:

I’m not saying I disagree, but I am curious what Ferrari has done in a lot of people’s eyes to have him capable of beating Plott. In his match against Starocci I saw a lot of sitting on one knee and fighting out of takedowns from the splits. Plott is approaching severely underrated territory imo.


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Agreed. He hasn't beaten any top 10 guys and his best win was 8-2 over Bockman, his main "claim to fame" so far was a 2 point loss to Starocci where he created zero offense and got pushed around the whole match. I think he's probably a legit top 10 guy, but there's no way to be sure at this point. 

[Gus]

Just now, poorwrestler said:

I’m not saying I disagree, but I am curious what Ferrari has done in a lot of people’s eyes to have him capable of beating Plott. In his match against Starocci I saw a lot of sitting on one knee and fighting out of takedowns from the splits. Plott is approaching severely underrated territory imo.


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Nothing in particular other than the fact that I think Ferarri is a hammer and incredibly hard to take down. I see it as a close match that Ferarri finds a way to win. I could be totally wrong. I thought that Aedon Sinclair would give Plott a tough match and he got beat handily. I know Ferrari lost to Starocci but the way that Starocci has absolutely destroyed everyone else this year tells me that Ferarri is legit. 

[666]

1 minute ago, Le duke said:

Hendrickson is one of those guys where if he's even marginally better than you, it's bonus time. And I think he's markedly better than Kueter. 

I think he's going to pour it on, and ends it before 7:00 of match time has expired. Tech or pin.

 

Keuter isn't a typical HWT though. He's skinnier/quicker than most. Plus he's not got bad stuff on the mat either, at least by HWT standards. I could see Keuter holding Hendrickson to a 10-3 type decision, or getting teched/pinned. 

[666]

1 minute ago, Gus said:

I know Ferrari lost to Starocci but the way that Starocci has absolutely destroyed everyone else this year tells me that Ferarri is legit. 

Or he's just really good at stalling and making matches seem closer than they actually are. 

[Gus]

2 minutes ago, 666 said:

Or he's just really good at stalling and making matches seem closer than they actually are. 

Edmund Ruth is really good at stalling and making matches seem closer than they are and he was on his way to getting tech before betting stalled out against Carter.

[MPhillips]

5 minutes ago, 666 said:

I could see Keuter holding Hendrickson to a 10-3 type decision, or getting teched/pinned. 

Watch that limb you're out on doesn't break...

[666]

7 minutes ago, Gus said:

Edmund Ruth is really good at stalling and making matches seem closer than they are and he was on his way to getting tech before betting stalled out against Carter.

He wasn't good enough at stalling, that's for sure. What I don't understand about guys like Edmond is why they don't just go nuts when they wrestle guys like Starocci? They are probably going to lose anyway, might as well go uber aggressive and try a throw or a bodylock. Maybe you'll hit the throw, put him on his back and pin him. It probably won't work but at least it gives you a chance instead of just stalling out like a wimp. I'd rather get pinned after bravely trying a throw than getting pushed around the mat and finally stalling out while way behind on the scoreboard. 

[666]

11 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

Watch that limb you're out on doesn't break...

He beat your HWT a few weeks ago, as I recall.....

[MPhillips]

4 minutes ago, 666 said:

He beat your HWT a few weeks ago, as I recall.....

WTF does that have to do with anything Beast? 

[WildTurk]

Has Kueter ever been pinned? He almost did last week!

Edited 4 hours ago by WildTurk

[Spencerlee]

Ferrari over Plott, you heard it here 2nd.

[BruceyB]

1 hour ago, Dogbone said:

There have been a lot of good duals this year where the dual outcome was not in doubt but had a lot of toss up matches.  

This dual does not seem to have a lot of toss ups, but the dual is a toss up with bonus points likely deciding the difference.

Just interesting to me.  

You're absolutely correct. Assuming the line-ups feature all 20 regular starters, it would require a very unexpected upset for this dual to not end up 5-5.

[WildTurk]

5 minutes ago, MPhillips said:

WTF does that have to do with anything Beast? 

To get you to respond like you just did.  That was a nice win by Kueter btw!