Mandatory Poll: Haines vs O'Toole

[Hammerlock3]

Who ya got.

[D3 for LU]

THAT one...

that's who I got!

D3

[RawDog]

Well they both ran away from Messinbrink, so I'll take Messinbrink 

[ionel]

  On 12/15/2024 at 6:43 PM, RawDog said:

Well they both ran away from Messinbrink, so I'll take Messinbrink 

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who?

[Hammerlock3]

  On 12/15/2024 at 6:43 PM, RawDog said:

Well they both ran away from Messinbrink, so I'll take Messinbrink 

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vapid unfalsifiable insults with no comedic value...just what we need. 

[PortaJohn]

@Hammerlock3 I'm going to raise your poll and go all in with a whole lot of nonsense.  (c) Who Knows 

[Hammerlock3]

  On 12/16/2024 at 7:37 PM, PortaJohn said:

@Hammerlock3 I'm going to raise your poll and go all in with a whole lot of nonsense.  (c) Who Knows 

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BUT I ALREADY SAID YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO DO THAT!!!!

[Hammerlock3]

50/50 split currently...

[BruceyB]

  On 12/17/2024 at 2:28 AM, Hammerlock3 said:

50/50 split currently...

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I'd be curious if Flo put out a poll on social media what the result would be. The input of a wider variety of casual to serious fans would be interesting. 

[Lleynor]

When Dake jumped to 165, even the Cornell faithful didn’t think he’d hang with DT. Not saying Haines and O’Toole are at that level, but you sometimes just don’t know until you see it on the mat. 
 

It is easy to say Haines, since what he did in Free. However, O’Toole is a better Folk than Free wrestler. I know I want to see it, no matter what!

[Wrestleknownothing]

Here is my worry.

It is the third match of the day. Do all starters wrestle all three matches?

 

 

[BruceyB]

  On 12/17/2024 at 3:45 AM, Wrestleknownothing said:

It is the third match of the day. Do all starters wrestle all three matches?

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I would hope so. The first two matchups aren't exactly going to be tough for Haines and O'Toole. And with Penn State's ability to make adjustments after seeing a matchup, and how well Keegan was able to make adjustments after his first meeting with Carr, I think both parties would view getting to see the match as their own advantage for NCAAs.

[Caveira]

Will this stream anywhere?   

[Wrestleknownothing]

  On 12/17/2024 at 4:17 AM, Caveira said:

Will this stream anywhere?   

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Journeymen's Rokfin channel. You probably have to pay for both.

[1032004]

  On 12/17/2024 at 2:43 AM, BruceyB said:

I'd be curious if Flo put out a poll on social media what the result would be. The input of a wider variety of casual to serious fans would be interesting. 

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The casual fan poll would probably go to Haines due to the bandwagon PSU fan factor 

[Hammerlock3]

  On 12/17/2024 at 7:41 AM, 1032004 said:

The casual fan poll would probably go to Haines due to the bandwagon PSU fan factor 

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almost posted exactly the same...if O'Toole wins last year likely not the case but obviously he didn't.

[neweruser69]

Haines is too big and too clean for O'toole to deal with in any style  

[ionel]

  On 12/19/2024 at 9:17 PM, neweruser69 said:

Haines is too big and too clean for O'toole to deal with in any style  

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Aren't they both 174? 

[Jimmy Cinnabon]

  On 12/19/2024 at 9:17 PM, neweruser69 said:

Haines is too big and too clean for O'toole to deal with in any style  

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Haines is the smaller guy. He moved up from 157 and Otoole has been at 174 for years. 

[BarSeries]

  On 12/20/2024 at 3:56 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Otoole has been at 174 for years. 

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Wut?

[neweruser69]

  On 12/20/2024 at 3:56 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Haines is the smaller guy. He moved up from 157 and Otoole has been at 174 for years. 

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They're both coming up weights. But Haines looked bigger in their freestyle bout and has the frame to fill out even more.

I understand the reasoning behind thinking it's O'toole, but Levi sure looked like he had the horsepower advantage and that should only grow as he bulks up.

[BarSeries]

It's wild that O'Toole and Hamiti each have 100 matches and both were at 165 the last three years and they haven't wrestled each other. 

Hamiti could make things interesting come March.......new weight class, David Taylor, not to mention he was up 9-2 on Mesenbrink at Big 10's..........

[BruceyB]

  On 12/20/2024 at 7:10 PM, BarSeries said:

It's wild that O'Toole and Hamiti each have 100 matches and both were at 165 the last three years and they haven't wrestled each other. 

Hamiti could make things interesting come March.......new weight class, David Taylor, not to mention he was up 9-2 on Mesenbrink at Big 10's..........

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They wrestled at the All-Star a 2 or 3 years ago. Keegan really controlled the entire match IIRC. But that match was years ago, so I completely agree he could make things interesting.

[BarSeries]

  On 12/20/2024 at 7:38 PM, BruceyB said:

They wrestled at the All-Star a 2 or 3 years ago. Keegan really controlled the entire match IIRC. But that match was years ago, so I completely agree he could make things interesting.

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Oh, duh, my bad.......totally forgot the All-Star match and I've even seen it already on YouTube lol. 

[MLB9]

  On 12/20/2024 at 3:56 PM, Jimmy Cinnabon said:

Haines is the smaller guy. He moved up from 157 and Otoole has been at 174 for years. 

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1 for 3 Jimmy. That’s Hall of Fame in the majors

Edited December 20, 2024 by MLB9